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Old 11 June 2011, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mr smash
Hi any news on that batch of sc42's yet?any details on price?

Hi,

sat on the shelf waiting for you at an introductory price of £1250.00 + vat.

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Originally Posted by The Gaffer
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sat on the shelf waiting for you at an introductory price of £1250.00 + vat.

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Kev. You make them sound like expensive kittens waiting for a new home...

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Originally Posted by MartynJ


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Well done Martyn, very nice graph that.
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Originally Posted by Hammer man
Kev. You make them sound like expensive kittens waiting for a new home...

Hi,

you have quoted my post before I had chance to edit the price.

Please note they are £1250.00 + vat.

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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
Well done Martyn, very nice graph that.
Thanks Clive, the beauty of it is we didn't have to work our asses off to get there. It just came together as a package and worked really well.
The 46 is an awesome all rounder, working really well on 2 litre, 2.1 strokers and 2.5's alike. I think the 2.33 is the only type we haven't tried one on yet.

As an aside, we hope to be getting this back soon with it's much revised charge cooling system. A fully built 2.5 fitted with an SC54 Billet and a Syvecs PNP ecu, should be an experience
When ran previously it was already starting to impress despite the charge temp correction pulling a whopping 7.5 degrees of ignition due to it's poor charge cooler efficiency.

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...dyno-cell.html

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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but by charge cooler, you mean intercooler?
Old 11 June 2011, 01:16 PM
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Charge-cooler is a air-water heat-exchanger. The hot charged air goes through a core just like a regular IC... except... that the the CC also has a water pump/reservior/circulating jackets. The idea being that the circulating water, in addition to the core itself, gets rid of the charged air's heat.

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Originally Posted by joz8968
Charge-cooler is a air-water heat-exchanger. The hot charged air goes through a core just like a regular IC... except... that the the CC also has a water pump/reservior/circulating jackets. The idea being that the circulating water, in addition to the core itself, gets rid of the charged air's heat.
Correct, in this case the core itself aswell as the radiator for it were hopelessly inefficient at this level. I believe the owner has doubled the size of the core aswell as quadroupling the size of the radiator for it.
Hopefully that will cure the previous issues and allow us to start making some serious power. The aim is to make it the fastest camper in Europe.

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Im far far from being an expert, but the SC46 seems to really be the one to watch , a turbo with a 500 capability and spooling like standard turbos seems to be the ultimate package really, never thought i would see it .

For my own interest, as i am wanting a 500 maybe even up to 550 turbo, im torn between the bhp figure and driveability i have a cracking JDM Prodrive bug at moment and its really made me appreciate the driveability of fast spool and certainly made me re think on things..

I had narrowed it down to SC54 or Rotated gt30 billet or other well known 500 turbo.. but now This freekn SC46 is added itself to the mix by making 500

What are we talkiing about in difference between the SC54 and the Sc46?? Spool wise and everything really?

Is the sc54 going to be like the nice church going girl that needs a bit more work to get going than the chavvy bitch down the road
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So does the charge cooler replace the intercooler or is it added into the system? Guess anything to keep charge temps down is good for our engines.

Im guessing a sc54 on a 2.0l jdm will be very laggy kenc
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Originally Posted by kenc
Im far far from being an expert, but the SC46 seems to really be the one to watch , a turbo with a 500 capability and spooling like standard turbos seems to be the ultimate package really, never thought i would see it .

For my own interest, as i am wanting a 500 maybe even up to 550 turbo, im torn between the bhp figure and driveability i have a cracking JDM Prodrive bug at moment and its really made me appreciate the driveability of fast spool and certainly made me re think on things..

I had narrowed it down to SC54 or Rotated gt30 billet or other well known 500 turbo.. but now This freekn SC46 is added itself to the mix by making 500

What are we talkiing about in difference between the SC54 and the Sc46?? Spool wise and everything really?

Is the sc54 going to be like the nice church going girl that needs a bit more work to get going than the chavvy bitch down the road

Hi,

as I have stated throughout this thread its not all about big BHP figures on a printout, its about how it behaves on the road.

One of our race drivers who drives one of our 550 BHP track cars did some driver tuition for one of our customers in an SC46 billet powered car and came back shouting I want one of them.

Spool was so much quicker he got round Oulton park faster with less BHP.

I run an SC54 Billet on my daily driver, it spools well and is not at all laggy, however its a jdm spec car with close ratio box so its always on the boil.

The SC46 Billet is by far one of our best sellers, it seems happy on 2.0 ltr engines through to 2.5 ltr ones, avics and non avics its not fussy.

Cheers
Kev

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Originally Posted by kenc
Im far far from being an expert, but the SC46 seems to really be the one to watch , a turbo with a 500 capability and spooling like standard turbos seems to be the ultimate package really, never thought i would see it .

For my own interest, as i am wanting a 500 maybe even up to 550 turbo, im torn between the bhp figure and driveability i have a cracking JDM Prodrive bug at moment and its really made me appreciate the driveability of fast spool and certainly made me re think on things..

I had narrowed it down to SC54 or Rotated gt30 billet or other well known 500 turbo.. but now This freekn SC46 is added itself to the mix by making 500

What are we talkiing about in difference between the SC54 and the Sc46?? Spool wise and everything really?

Is the sc54 going to be like the nice church going girl that needs a bit more work to get going than the chavvy bitch down the road

get the sc46, i promise you wont be dissapointed, its awesome on the open road
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Kev

What are the physical differences between the roller bearing-equipped SC42 and SC46 billets? Does the latter have a slightly bigger comp wheel (and/or comp housing), or what, lol?

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Old 11 June 2011, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Kev. What are the physical differences between the roller bearing SC42s and SC46s? Does the latter have a slightly bigger comp wheel (and/or comp housing), or what, lol?

Hi,

same turbo except the SC42 Billet has a smaller turbine wheel.

Idea is even quicker spool than the SC46 billet and as its a ball bearing core it will spool quicker than the SC40 billet yet produce at least 420 BHP, its suited better to non avics engines and for people not wanting to push as hard as the SC46 yet still want a BB core.

Hope that helps to clear things up a bit.

cheers
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Yep!

That's a great insight - really helps me out.

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Originally Posted by The Gaffer
Hi,

same turbo except the SC42 Billet has a smaller turbine wheel.

Idea is even quicker spool than the SC46 billet and as its a ball bearing core it will spool quicker than the SC40 billet yet produce at least 420 BHP, its suited better to non avics engines and for people not wanting to push as hard as the SC46 yet still want a BB core.

Hope that helps to clear things up a bit.

cheers
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Kev have you tried an sc42 on a version 8 sti???? Would it work ok with avcs and standard internals???????
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Originally Posted by stevep360
Kev have you tried an sc42 on a version 8 sti???? Would it work ok with avcs and standard internals???????

Hi,

exactly the right car for this turbo.

The 2.0 ltr sti engine with avics is well capable of 400 BHP with standard internals, we run them in many track cars with no issues at all.

The SC42 Billet was aimed at people wanting 400 BHP ish on a 2.0 ltr with as little lag as is poss, the SC46 Billet does it well but could, in some cases, be deemed over kill at the sacrifice of spool, not saying its a slouch, far from it as many will testify its a class leader.

We have only just received the first batch so as yet we have not tested one.

Cheers
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Best decision i ever made getting a 2.5 with sc46 billet.
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Originally Posted by The Gaffer
Hi,

exactly the right car for this turbo.

The 2.0 ltr sti engine with avics is well capable of 400 BHP with standard internals, we run them in many track cars with no issues at all.

The SC42 Billet was aimed at people wanting 400 BHP ish on a 2.0 ltr with as little lag as is poss, the SC46 Billet does it well but could, in some cases, be deemed over kill at the sacrifice of spool, not saying its a slouch, far from it as many will testify its a class leader.

We have only just received the first batch so as yet we have not tested one.

Cheers
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Keep me in the loop Kev re your testing, this sounds like the turbo for me.
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Hi,

as I have stated throughout this thread its not all about big BHP figures on a printout, its about how it behaves on the road.

One of our race drivers who drives one of our 550 BHP track cars did some driver tuition for one of our customers in an SC46 billet powered car and came back shouting I want one of them.

Spool was so much quicker he got round Oulton park faster with less BHP.

I run an SC54 Billet on my daily driver, it spools well and is not at all laggy, however its a jdm spec car with close ratio box so its always on the boil.

The SC46 Billet is by far one of our best sellers, it seems happy on 2.0 ltr engines through to 2.5 ltr ones, avics and non avics its not fussy.

Cheers
Kev
Kev, my engine is a 2.35 same as urs, i have an 2006 Uk 6spd set up in the Type R so not sure how my gearing will shape up..
Can you put a rough rpm figure on how much later the SC54 will deliver compared to the sc46
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Originally Posted by The Gaffer
Hi,

exactly the right car for this turbo.

The 2.0 ltr sti engine with avics is well capable of 400 BHP with standard internals, we run them in many track cars with no issues at all.

The SC42 Billet was aimed at people wanting 400 BHP ish on a 2.0 ltr with as little lag as is poss, the SC46 Billet does it well but could, in some cases, be deemed over kill at the sacrifice of spool, not saying its a slouch, far from it as many will testify its a class leader.

We have only just received the first batch so as yet we have not tested one.

Cheers
Kev
The SC46 certainly gets my vote
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SC46 is an amazing turbo

Mine produced 472bhp and 483 lbs on V power in a newly built engine with 1200 miles on it. Suspect it has even more poke now!
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Originally Posted by kenc
Kev, my engine is a 2.35 same as urs, i have an 2006 Uk 6spd set up in the Type R so not sure how my gearing will shape up..
Can you put a rough rpm figure on how much later the SC54 will deliver compared to the sc46

Hi,

we have done both on a 2.33, spool on the SC46 was about 500 RPM quicker than on the SC54, might suit your gearing better.

cheers
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keV do the 46 need to be run in in any way or are they ok straight out the box?
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Originally Posted by birchy2010
keV do the 46 need to be run in in any way or are they ok straight out the box?
Hi,

straight out of the box, fit and round to the dyno is the usual procedure.

That said a lot get fitted to new engines so they get a running in session same time as the fresh engine does.

Cheers
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Cheers kev. It's not going on a brand new motor so glad to know it doesn't need a run in period.
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Originally Posted by kenc

Cheers Ken so it looks like the sc46 would bolt on in place of the vf36 on mine?Would one of these be turbo fine on a standard 2.0 jdm legacy block? Im curious how the transmission would handle the power


@ Kev: Do you know if its possible to clock the compressor housing on these so the outlet points vertically rather than horizontally? If so, im thinking the actuator will be in the way then. I needed to get different actuator for my vf36 when i clocked it so i could still us TMIC setup.

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looking at the sc46 it looks like the actuator position might be grand when the compressor housing is clocked.

Cheers

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Dan, if im thinking right you were only looking for around 360??? If so the SC46 could be viewed as over kill, as its producing way over that...
Usually people say get the smallest turbo to give you the bhp required, that way you have minimum spool, the Sc46 could be the rule breaker on this as its spool seems to be amazing...
Maybe running an sc46 at 360bhp mite be a good idea, as im just wondering would the fact its not maxd reduce intake temps and considering your on standard engine, probably 95 octane and a TMIC would this be a good thing.
Kev is the man to answer all that, im just thinking out loud

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Originally Posted by kenc
Dan, if im thinking right you were only looking for around 360??? If so the SC46 could be viewed as over kill, as its producing way over that...
Usually people say get the smallest turbo to give you the bhp required, that way you have minimum spool, the Sc46 could be the rule breaker on this as its spool seems to be amazing...
Maybe running an sc46 at 360bhp mite be a good idea, as im just wondering would the fact its not maxd reduce intake temps and considering your on standard engine, probably 95 octane and a TMIC would this be a good thing.
Kev is the man to answer all that, im just thinking out loud
i was looking for about 350-360 from the vf36, but ill happily take more if standard engine can take it without blowing up. Is the sc46 the only option ot is there smaller ones that might be better suited?
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For Legacy you will need special designed turbos,but Scoobyclic is dealer of Blouch which have special designed turbos for Legacy too,but GT380/440/480XT which are too billet.

Here is link:
http://www.bptstore.com/Blouch-Turbos_c_9.html




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