View Poll Results: Will bend over, spread your cheeks and get a swine-flu jab?
Hell Yes, better safe than sorry!
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No thanks, I want to live a bit longer
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Not sure
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Wots swine-flu?
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Swine flu vaccine to be given to entire UK population
13 July 2009, 10:10 PM
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And can you tell us how *they* know that the virus will mutate to a more virulent form? Why will it not mutate to a less virulent form?
Can you tell us how a vaccine created for the current version of swine flu will protect us against a mutated, more or less virulent, virus? After all they tell us that the normal flu vaccine needs to be renewed each year as the virus has mutated ...
And there is no need for a vaccine for the current virus as it is a *mild* flu virus, in spite of the deaths we have had already.
So, why are *they* pushing it? Nothing to do with *vested* interests in the companies that manufacture Tamiflu and the vaccine I suppose ....
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Can you tell us how a vaccine created for the current version of swine flu will protect us against a mutated, more or less virulent, virus? After all they tell us that the normal flu vaccine needs to be renewed each year as the virus has mutated ...
And there is no need for a vaccine for the current virus as it is a *mild* flu virus, in spite of the deaths we have had already.So, why are *they* pushing it? Nothing to do with *vested* interests in the companies that manufacture Tamiflu and the vaccine I suppose ....
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1918 flu pandemic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Asian flu definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terms easily defined on MedTerms
So who has vested interests in which companies who manufacture the vaccine again? The health of my family is more important to me than the people who are supposedly pushing it. A 6 year old girl succumbed to the virus today. My children's school have issued a letter notifying that some at their school has the virus. I could not live with myself if something like that happened to my children, knowing I didn't do anything just because someone is making money out of this situation.
13 July 2009, 10:17 PM
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To not take the vaccine because you believe that the government is advising you to do it is plain stupidity. If your family get very ill, or worse, because you have forced your views on them, that would be unforgivable.
14 July 2009, 12:02 AM
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14 July 2009, 12:11 AM
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I have checked a few things out, and tend to look little further than what other people have posted on here. Like I said, I'm not just gonna stand by and do nothing just because some few people are making a lot of money.
Are you using a non windows OS and non Internet Explorer or any microsoft alternative product just because Bill Gates is making a lot of money.
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14 July 2009, 10:32 AM
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So many people saying "no".
That's the poll result of a group of feisty 20-somethings who either think they're invincible or haven't had proper flu yet. I'd love to see this re-visited once the pandemic has passed and get the views of those who said no before and subsequently caught the virus.
That's the poll result of a group of feisty 20-somethings who either think they're invincible or haven't had proper flu yet. I'd love to see this re-visited once the pandemic has passed and get the views of those who said no before and subsequently caught the virus.
14 July 2009, 10:58 AM
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I would want to wait a while to be certain that this drug didn't have any adverse side effects. On that basis I would most certainly not be the first person in the queue, I'd want to give at least three months, six preferably.
I have wondered if previous flu jabs have made me allergic to eggs (I never had an issue with eggs until my early to mid-20s when I started having Flu jabs, coincidence? Probably, but who knows for sure? I can't "suddenly" become allergic to something for no reason; Something must have changed either in the eggs themselves or more likely in my immune system; of which something must have triggered it.
All I know is I can longer eat a bacon and egg butty or an omlette without suffering the consequences.
Of coursse, if the swine flu jab is based on egg protein, I may not be able to have it anyway.
I have wondered if previous flu jabs have made me allergic to eggs (I never had an issue with eggs until my early to mid-20s when I started having Flu jabs, coincidence? Probably, but who knows for sure? I can't "suddenly" become allergic to something for no reason; Something must have changed either in the eggs themselves or more likely in my immune system; of which something must have triggered it.
All I know is I can longer eat a bacon and egg butty or an omlette without suffering the consequences.
Of coursse, if the swine flu jab is based on egg protein, I may not be able to have it anyway.
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14 July 2009, 12:34 PM
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14 July 2009, 01:00 PM
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It's just flu; I don't bother with a flu jab normally so why would I now?
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So many people saying "no".
That's the poll result of a group of feisty 20-somethings who either think they're invincible or haven't had proper flu yet. I'd love to see this re-visited once the pandemic has passed and get the views of those who said no before and subsequently caught the virus.
That's the poll result of a group of feisty 20-somethings who either think they're invincible or haven't had proper flu yet. I'd love to see this re-visited once the pandemic has passed and get the views of those who said no before and subsequently caught the virus.
14 July 2009, 01:03 PM
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Because it's probably a whole lot less unpleasant than contracting flu proper, and your chances of contracting this strain seem to be much higher than regular seasonal flu?
Am i missing something? Do people not really think the risk is real until they contract it?
Am i missing something? Do people not really think the risk is real until they contract it?
14 July 2009, 01:12 PM
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So many people saying "no".
That's the poll result of a group of feisty 20-somethings who either think they're invincible or haven't had proper flu yet. I'd love to see this re-visited once the pandemic has passed and get the views of those who said no before and subsequently caught the virus.
That's the poll result of a group of feisty 20-somethings who either think they're invincible or haven't had proper flu yet. I'd love to see this re-visited once the pandemic has passed and get the views of those who said no before and subsequently caught the virus.
14 July 2009, 01:23 PM
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Am I missing something 
It is just flu isn't it? There are already many different strains of flu out there aren't there? Is there really a higher risk of catching it or are people just assuming so to "panic" the general population? Do you normally worry about catching flu? Why are you more worried about this one?
Seems crazy, to me, for people to get so worked up about it.
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It is just flu isn't it? There are already many different strains of flu out there aren't there? Is there really a higher risk of catching it or are people just assuming so to "panic" the general population? Do you normally worry about catching flu? Why are you more worried about this one?Seems crazy, to me, for people to get so worked up about it.
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14 July 2009, 04:33 PM
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So many people saying "no".
That's the poll result of a group of feisty 20-somethings who either think they're invincible or haven't had proper flu yet. I'd love to see this re-visited once the pandemic has passed and get the views of those who said no before and subsequently caught the virus.
That's the poll result of a group of feisty 20-somethings who either think they're invincible or haven't had proper flu yet. I'd love to see this re-visited once the pandemic has passed and get the views of those who said no before and subsequently caught the virus.
I've never had full blown flu but am prepared to take my chances. I would not trust this lot with anything as precious as my life
Anyway, what ever happened to the Bird Flu scare
14 July 2009, 04:42 PM
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What's the Bird flu scare got to do with it? That proved highly ineffective at spreading between humans, swine flu on the other hand is spreading rapidly. Or are you saying that in your mind, because bird flu didn't spread, you won't get swine flu, is that the logic?
Believe me, Lesley, if you HAD ever had proper flu, you'd give much more thought to taking the jab. Saying that you'd be putting your LIFE at risk by having it is, in my limited knowledge, ridiculous, with respect.
Believe me, Lesley, if you HAD ever had proper flu, you'd give much more thought to taking the jab. Saying that you'd be putting your LIFE at risk by having it is, in my limited knowledge, ridiculous, with respect.
14 July 2009, 04:51 PM
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What's the Bird flu scare got to do with it? That proved highly ineffective at spreading between humans, swine flu on the other hand is spreading rapidly. Or are you saying that in your mind, because bird flu didn't spread, you won't get swine flu, is that the logic?
Believe me, Lesley, if you HAD ever had proper flu, you'd give much more thought to taking the jab. Saying that you'd be putting your LIFE at risk by having it is, in my limited knowledge, ridiculous, with respect.
Believe me, Lesley, if you HAD ever had proper flu, you'd give much more thought to taking the jab. Saying that you'd be putting your LIFE at risk by having it is, in my limited knowledge, ridiculous, with respect.
I am not saying I won't get swine flu. I am saying I am prepared to take my chances. I also did not say I would be putting my life at risk by having the jab. Having read that article, I have no faith in the jab. Just my opinion
14 July 2009, 05:33 PM
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Bird flu was limited mainly to , well birds and the odd unfortuante ( who were quickly removeD ). The virus clearly didnt particularly like mammals
14 July 2009, 06:28 PM
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Nope. You're not wrong. The press/government was full of stories about how it *may* start to become transmissible between humans and mutate into the 1918 flu all over again. Such as BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Eyewitness: Surviving bird flu
"... Scientists are deeply concerned about the ability of the flu virus to combine with a human form and transmit easily from human to human. If this happened, the world could face a pandemic of devastating scale, experts have warned ..."
And back to the present and the two, supposedly healthy, latest victims. I must admit I saw the picture of that doctor and thought there was not a healthy man ...
Swine Flu: Dr Michael Day Died From Natural Causes, Say Bedfordshire Police | UK News | Sky News
"... And sources said Dr Day died from a blood clot to the lungs. He also suffered from heart disease and high blood pressure, and had viral pneumonia ..."
and from Swine Flu: Health Secretary Andy Burnham Urges Calm After Deaths Of Chloe Buckley And Dr Michael Day | UK News | Sky News
"... She added: "Chloe was a beautiful girl, very polite, very petite, but we had heard that she had heart problems." ..."
Not checked the last bit out any further but from my understanding any virus getting to the heart is potentially dangerous.
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14 July 2009, 06:32 PM
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NO!, you're RIGHT! This swine flu is a government conspiracy and is just a figment of everyone's imagination and the media has jumped on the Government propaganda band wagon because its hugely newsworthy but somewhere someone in government is rubbing their hands as they stand to make lots and lots of money. They did this by releasing a virus on the general public and called it swine flu as "avian" has already been used. They have drawn up a list of other farm animal names for future use too. But this is nothing more than a sniffle and at worst a mild cold and just enough to cause a public scare and hysteria. Using an affiliated pharmaceutical company the secret man in government is going to put forward a policy to force everyone to take this untested and untrialled tamiflu and vaccine. They don't care if it works or not, just as long as they keep pushing it on the unsuspecting public so that they make loads of money.
14 July 2009, 11:37 PM
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If, however, the vaccine wasn't a vaccine and was in fact a tagging and tracking system and allows collection of DNA samples and also alters your mind allowing the Government to read it and control your behavior, then may be, just may be I may thing twice about being vaccinated.
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