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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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never experienced understeer in my car yet, had some oversteer on full boost but thats just me giving it some beans lol
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mog
Hi Dave

Errrmmmm the FSTi has been away for 6 months now but we dont talk about it...back next week !!!!!.

The RS is fab, I should never have cancelled the order last year and bought the 330s IMHO.......350 Stage 2, wheels and springs now booked in...you only live once, Goodwood still sounds good and the dog is now huge but lovely.

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Sorry to hear about the FSTI, I bet you both can't wait to get her back.

You will have to take me out in the RS one day...on second thoughts better not do that or I might want to sell the STI

Looking forward to seeing you at the Goodwood Festival of Speed this year mate, wil PM/e-mail you.

All the best and hope you have a great Christmas, Dave
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by vulnax999
What's the definitive answer to the in built understeer on the new STi hatches / 330S 's then?

What works best??? ( avoiding full coil over / adjustable rear links and adjustable top mounts etc. ).

Any suggestions welcome!
Bigger rear anti-roll bar (and the brace kit that comes with it), rear subframe bush kit, power steering pump mod, anti-lift kit and a decent alignment (none of which should effect your warranty)....speak to Ian at Litchfields, he knows his stuff and is very good with prices

Decent coilovers further improve things, but the above changes make a huge difference for a realtively small amount of money

p.s. oversteer was my problem with the hatch rather than understeer, but I know what you mean mate

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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Odd, So many people stiffening up the rear end with the bush / positive traction kits and larger / braced A/R bar ... why if not to induce oversteer or dial out understeer?
Stiffening the roll resistance or spring rates decreases the absolute grip at that end of the car so alter the balance of grip towardzs the other.

Worked like that on my classic. Think it's all explained on here in one of the Prodrive expert threads.


I don't play much with the settings ( DCCD in auto +, s#, traction control all on etc. ) unless in odd conditions, so maybe too much DCCD lock forced front end wide..?

Was probably a greasy corner and I entered a bit too fast, but still wanna dial out the "percieved" understeer.


Going to visit suspension / race chassis engineers as they reckon it can be all down to settings, this 330S was dealer 4 wheel aligned so likely basic / std settings.

Failing that Lichfield / Powerstation visit likely!

Cheers guys


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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Anybody had to test out their fog lights yet??

Had to tonight on the way home, OMg are they pants!!! I cant see the throw of light beyond the bonnet!
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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isnt dccd+ for front bias? i thought it was. try in dccd- Neil, worked for me on the drifting.

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by codie247
isnt dccd+ for front bias? i thought it was. try in dccd- Neil, worked for me on the drifting.

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That's true - never liked DCCD +
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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Just had the Litchfield handling pack fitted to ours last week, car feels so much better, steerning now feels like it's connected to the road, feels a lot more taught & responsive, well worth it in my opinion

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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all well nx wk iam getting front & rear arbs ,2 point brace kit ,front strut brace & power steering racking rack bushes fitted as turn up

i fog lights nowt flash thinking of fitting piaa bulbs to give abit more light
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon C
Anybody had to test out their fog lights yet??

Had to tonight on the way home, OMg are they pants!!! I cant see the throw of light beyond the bonnet!

i fitted uprated fog light bulbs to mine, they light up the road a lot in front low down
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rb5 286
i fitted uprated fog light bulbs to mine, they light up the road a lot in front low down
Agree with Simon, they are next to useless in fog (as I found out the other day). How did you get to the rears of the fog lights to change the bulbs mate, haven't had a proper look yet, hoping it's an easy job...
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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I fitted 100w bulbs to my fogs hell they light up well lol
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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**** of pish, just popped out the side vents in the bumper and you have loadsa room
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by vulnax999
Odd, So many people stiffening up the rear end with the bush / positive traction kits and larger / braced A/R bar ... why if not to induce oversteer or dial out understeer?
Stiffening the roll resistance or spring rates decreases the absolute grip at that end of the car so alter the balance of grip towardzs the other.

Worked like that on my classic. Think it's all explained on here in one of the Prodrive expert threads.


I don't play much with the settings ( DCCD in auto +, s#, traction control all on etc. ) unless in odd conditions, so maybe too much DCCD lock forced front end wide..?

Was probably a greasy corner and I entered a bit too fast, but still wanna dial out the "percieved" understeer.


Going to visit suspension / race chassis engineers as they reckon it can be all down to settings, this 330S was dealer 4 wheel aligned so likely basic / std settings.

Failing that Lichfield / Powerstation visit likely!

Cheers guys


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AUTO+ is your first mistake mate AUTO- all day
Ssharp and no TC on ie orange light on dash
Auto + will produce more understeer.
Try what I have suggested and see how you get on
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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oops

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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wrx9181
This has to be one of the best hatch back scoobs I've ever seen.

Are those arches standard as they look really wide?
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Thinking of putting a stripe or 2 along the bottom of the doors, bit like Litcho's or RCM. Looking for any inspiration fellas!! What u think? Silver stripe with red in somewhere?

Lee
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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[quote=Davey P;9097067]This has to be one of the best hatch back scoobs I've ever seen.


Agree with that !!
What rims are they ??
Where do you get the reverse bonnet vents ?!
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Thought I'd finally add some of mine - completely standard at present -

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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Agree with that !!
What rims are they ??
Where do you get the reverse bonnet vents ?![/QUOTE]

Vents come with the bonnet, its a whole new item and IIRC and is made of cf.
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Arronb
Agree with that !!
What rims are they ??
Where do you get the reverse bonnet vents ?!
Vents come with the bonnet, its a whole new item and IIRC and is made of cf.[/quote]

Doh! Probably silly money then
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Arronb
What rims are they ??
Where do you get the reverse bonnet vents ?!
The Americans love oversized rims with 255 tyres (sticking out past the arches) for that 'agressive' look as they call it...need to roll the arches to get them to fit...same effect here...looks good

http://www.aggressivefitment.com/use...L-SCHLEGS4.jpg

p.s. they are Advan RS/RZ wheels, cost over £400 each

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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 08:01 AM
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pic of the blue scoob looks like a photoshop, or if its a genuine pic then the colour balances must have been altered, just dont look natural.

i have been looking at wider wheels (18x8.5 et35) to get a much wider stance look with the wider tyres and filling the arches properly, its just the cost of the volks racing wheels at £600 a corner putting me off!!!
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Having taken the STI to my (not so local) dealer where they lent me a DIESEL Legacy for the day (nice heated seats and the aircon controls are much better than on the STi) I was quite relieved to get back into the STi.

£1800 for a 10K service and the fitting of a PPP appears to be money well spent. The power delivery is a lot smoother and the extra poke is certainly noticable. Managed to spin all 4 wheel on the exit of a roundabout which (ahem) woke me up!

Only down side is I need to upgrade the brakes - the stock pads are 85% worn after 10K miles (including 1 track day and a trip to the Ring).

Am thinking hoses, pads and dot 5.1 to start with and then look around for a bigger kit next year?

What have you guys gone for?

Cheers

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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by winmoz
Only down side is I need to upgrade the brakes - the stock pads are 85% worn after 10K miles (including 1 track day and a trip to the Ring).

Am thinking hoses, pads and dot 5.1 to start with and then look around for a bigger kit next year?

What have you guys gone for?

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Alcon F+R (from Iain Litchfield) work well. Be warned they do not fit under several rims eg BBS
Had AP 6 pots on the last scoob - they too worked well !
Suppose it depends which are on best £ offer !!

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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave_P
The Americans love oversized rims with 255 tyres (sticking out past the arches) for that 'agressive' look as they call it...need to roll the arches to get them to fit...same effect here...looks good

http://www.aggressivefitment.com/use...L-SCHLEGS4.jpg

p.s. they are Advan RS/RZ wheels, cost over £400 each
Strange how my current rims have suddenly become very attractive!!
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Carbon Fiber Bonnet for 08 Subaru Impreza 2.0R 2.5R sti on eBay (end time 05-Jan-10 11:18:24 GMT)
Originally Posted by StanS
Vents come with the bonnet, its a whole new item and IIRC and is made of cf.
Doh! Probably silly money then [/QUOTE]
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Yup - I was right - lot of money !
Rather put £699 + 180 p&p towards engine mods !!
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Originally Posted by winmoz
Having taken the STI to my (not so local) dealer where they lent me a DIESEL Legacy for the day (nice heated seats and the aircon controls are much better than on the STi) I was quite relieved to get back into the STi.

£1800 for a 10K service and the fitting of a PPP appears to be money well spent. The power delivery is a lot smoother and the extra poke is certainly noticable. Managed to spin all 4 wheel on the exit of a roundabout which (ahem) woke me up!

Only down side is I need to upgrade the brakes - the stock pads are 85% worn after 10K miles (including 1 track day and a trip to the Ring).

Am thinking hoses, pads and dot 5.1 to start with and then look around for a bigger kit next year?


What have you guys gone for?

Cheers

W
Im saving up for the PPP , ive got prices from a few dealers and they have been slightly different from the Pro Drive web site . If you dont mind what did your dealer charge you ? Dont know if the present economic climate has created any discounts ?
Thanks,
John
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