08/09 Hatches, Stand up and show yourselves!!!
14 June 2012, 07:47 PM
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cheers rob
do you think if a set of forge pistons are fitted to my engine during re-build this would stop the engine failures?
this is the 2nd now and the warranty runs out in July, I cant be stuck with another engine fail left to my own costs as aI simply dont have money for a rebuild, I dont want to sell the hatch but if forge pistons will be the answer then my worries can be put aside and I can enjoy it again.
if yes is the answer then can I ask subaru to supply & fit a set for me at their cost?
do you think if a set of forge pistons are fitted to my engine during re-build this would stop the engine failures?
this is the 2nd now and the warranty runs out in July, I cant be stuck with another engine fail left to my own costs as aI simply dont have money for a rebuild, I dont want to sell the hatch but if forge pistons will be the answer then my worries can be put aside and I can enjoy it again.
if yes is the answer then can I ask subaru to supply & fit a set for me at their cost?
anyway.....
Subaru Will not I repeat will not deviate in anyway from standard format of any of there parts whilst the vehicle remains under manufacturers warranty.
However if you were to supply Forged pistons and pay your technician or dealer to fit these for you, there is no way that can be stopped. However any warranty supplied/Implied or Given will be void upon any deviation from standard format and the risk is entirely on your shoulders.
14 June 2012, 10:15 PM
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14 June 2012, 10:43 PM
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I'm still not sure about a carbon roof wrap.. found this picture.. look quite good.
so... YES or NO?
so... YES or NO?
14 June 2012, 11:03 PM
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Forged Pistons & a custom map for the vehicle will stop the issue, Been proven far to many times now. I've built far to many hatches to forged spec to know this. Even my own has covered 32,000 miles on a forged Engine and thats been given the biggest thrashing of its life.
anyway.....
Subaru Will not I repeat will not deviate in anyway from standard format of any of there parts whilst the vehicle remains under manufacturers warranty.
However if you were to supply Forged pistons and pay your technician or dealer to fit these for you, there is no way that can be stopped. However any warranty supplied/Implied or Given will be void upon any deviation from standard format and the risk is entirely on your shoulders.
anyway.....
Subaru Will not I repeat will not deviate in anyway from standard format of any of there parts whilst the vehicle remains under manufacturers warranty.
However if you were to supply Forged pistons and pay your technician or dealer to fit these for you, there is no way that can be stopped. However any warranty supplied/Implied or Given will be void upon any deviation from standard format and the risk is entirely on your shoulders.
i have 1 month of warranty left of the 3 years so I dont think thats an issue anymore lol
what pistons would you recommend then Rob?
would the PPP ECU be ok as i dont wana fork out on a map
14 June 2012, 11:04 PM
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Guys is the eibach pro kit the same as the one offered by pro r?
And what difference is that to the springs fitted to the 330s springs? Just I'm sure the springs on the P1 were the same as the eibach at the time, may be wrong though lol.
And what difference is that to the springs fitted to the 330s springs? Just I'm sure the springs on the P1 were the same as the eibach at the time, may be wrong though lol.
14 June 2012, 11:22 PM
#7692
I've got one very similar to this, works a treat and fits the standard oversized hole as is oe.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-2-HD-Car...item2a1a2566f4
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-2-HD-Car...item2a1a2566f4
Thanks
15 June 2012, 07:22 AM
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AFAIK No.
The Eibach springs are their own interpretation.
The Pro-R springs are a development collaboration between Subaru UK (Mike Wood) and Eibach as were all previous spring kits from Prodrive.
15 June 2012, 07:42 AM
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Sorry what is CE?
Here is a pic fitted, it may not be quite as good as the ken woods etc but is OE which is what I wanted, the colours etc all match the dah and surrounds.
15 June 2012, 07:50 AM
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This is the reason why I thought to hell with the warranty pretty much from day one and had a custom map, Duncun (aka Dynamix) is not that expensive if you don't want to pay for the ecutek licence etc.
Without supporting mods you'd be looking at about 20bhp over the PPP map and piece of mind, certainly if you go forged too.
15 June 2012, 09:57 AM
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Bloody hell. What can you do now
15 June 2012, 09:58 AM
#7700
well thats the thing, i thought the service gaps were every 12k, but they are 10k, so i have 14k from first @ 10k (which was 12 months) and 2nd at 24k (14 months)
therefore this is what they are saying has invalidated the warranty
Spoke with Mike wood who is going to chat to Gary, the subaru bloke that went to look at the engine
therefore this is what they are saying has invalidated the warranty
Spoke with Mike wood who is going to chat to Gary, the subaru bloke that went to look at the engine
15 June 2012, 12:21 PM
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Every 10,000 miles give or take 1000 miles or 4 weeks either way unfortunately.
The factory will be making the decision as that's who pays the engine warranty. Unless you get a gesture of goodwill but that's Subaru uk's decision ultimately
On the subject of pistons. Mahle 4032 forged pistons would suffice.
The factory will be making the decision as that's who pays the engine warranty. Unless you get a gesture of goodwill but that's Subaru uk's decision ultimately
On the subject of pistons. Mahle 4032 forged pistons would suffice.
15 June 2012, 12:37 PM
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That's terrible news Mark but i cannot wait for someone to really push one of these cases. Regardless of slightly extended service intervals (which is not ideal) it is outrageous to think that you should accept 2 engine failures in a car of this money, age and mileage. It is the easiest thing in the world to build a case proving these engines in standard form are not durable.
Subaru if you are reading. You need to recognise the mans contribution toward Subaru clubs, put yourself in his (and many other peoples shoes) and do the right thing.
Subaru if you are reading. You need to recognise the mans contribution toward Subaru clubs, put yourself in his (and many other peoples shoes) and do the right thing.
15 June 2012, 12:41 PM
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Mark
I would also look at your Statutory rights under the sales of goods act. You have protection in certain areas under this act for 6 years from purchase.This is regardless of what your manufacturers warranty implies.
Have you settled your finance, if not put a merchandise complaint in through them (don't stop the payments).
I would also look at your Statutory rights under the sales of goods act. You have protection in certain areas under this act for 6 years from purchase.This is regardless of what your manufacturers warranty implies.
Have you settled your finance, if not put a merchandise complaint in through them (don't stop the payments).
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15 June 2012, 01:07 PM
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Not sure i agree with that mate 
My own view is that there is enough evidence out there and the consequences of someone setting their stall out professionally are huge for Subaru.
Its a scandal. It still gets my pulse going now (and i don't have a car)
My own view is that there is enough evidence out there and the consequences of someone setting their stall out professionally are huge for Subaru.
Its a scandal. It still gets my pulse going now (and i don't have a car)
15 June 2012, 01:21 PM
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That's terrible news Mark but i cannot wait for someone to really push one of these cases. Regardless of slightly extended service intervals (which is not ideal) it is outrageous to think that you should accept 2 engine failures in a car of this money, age and mileage. It is the easiest thing in the world to build a case proving these engines in standard form are not durable.
Subaru if you are reading. You need to recognise the mans contribution toward Subaru clubs, put yourself in his (and many other peoples shoes) and do the right thing.
Subaru if you are reading. You need to recognise the mans contribution toward Subaru clubs, put yourself in his (and many other peoples shoes) and do the right thing.
Mark
I would also look at your Statutory rights under the sales of goods act. You have protection in certain areas under this act for 6 years from purchase.This is regardless of what your manufacturers warranty implies.
Have you settled your finance, if not put a merchandise complaint in through them (don't stop the payments).
I would also look at your Statutory rights under the sales of goods act. You have protection in certain areas under this act for 6 years from purchase.This is regardless of what your manufacturers warranty implies.
Have you settled your finance, if not put a merchandise complaint in through them (don't stop the payments).
I have gathered over 50 cases of piston ring failure paperwork, many are the same situation as mine so if you are looking at a case, its here!!!
15 June 2012, 01:48 PM
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The issue is Global and there are cases all over the place. It is undefendable. Just needs someone stubborn to see it through.
This doesn't need to attract huge legal fees.
This doesn't need to attract huge legal fees.
15 June 2012, 02:06 PM
#7709
this is not a pop at you by the way i am just curious and as you have an extensive knowledge im just asking
15 June 2012, 02:13 PM
#7710
do a search for sti ringland failure on google, there is over 10k results
search for 2009 subaru smoke on startup, over 7Million results
this is global and will use info from other countries as part of case
one interesting thing i noticed in service book, you cannot use STi on track, without prior permission from Subaru
search for 2009 subaru smoke on startup, over 7Million results
this is global and will use info from other countries as part of case
one interesting thing i noticed in service book, you cannot use STi on track, without prior permission from Subaru