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Old 12 June 2012, 02:36 PM
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Not a good time to sell. There are lots of MY08 Hatches especially 330s’s on Autotrader. One I just saw 2010 60 Reg 22.5k miles, WR Blue. Looks bog standard other than 18” wheels (MY08 were 17” weren’t they??) for £13,995 at a Subaru Main Dealer. No PPP but gives you an idea.
Old 12 June 2012, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rb5 286
octo-telemetrics!!

so i have been texting sat.status over the past month to see if the system was still working - nothing back!!!

emailed them about problem
- nothing back

driving home last night in the discovery I get 2 alarm texts but saying no address available!!!
- great service!!

So i call chelmsford to see if the hatch is ok and to let them know the alarm went of - they said the car has its engine out, on the ramps and has been since last week, with no battery hooked up!!!

so I get a delayed repsonse of a week of the alarm going off and no address of its location anyway!!!

wonder what I'm paying my money for
I was getting simular text messages while my car was at the Dealers while the engine was being replaced
Old 12 June 2012, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon C
Mark, are you still tinking of going for the RS?

Mines going back to Slip end now to find out why the sill on the passenger side is retaining water. I drained about 3 litres out of it yesterday.

Whilst I'm at it, I'm due a 48k service which could be a downer. My local service centre is no longer a subaru service centre just quoted 512!
£338 + vat is the best I could offer on that if you were closer mate

Big service that one
Brake and clutch fluid
Oil and filter
Rear diff oil
gearbox oil
fuel filter
air filter
wheel rotation
General vehicle condition report and inspection
Old 12 June 2012, 09:30 PM
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Cheers Rob, thought the 60k was the biggy, just checked the service schedule and cried!

Thats the mod budget just taken a slight dent!
Old 13 June 2012, 12:04 PM
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So update:

Subaru want my service book to see the service stamps and the front page with car chassis details etc before the consider a PWA??? What ever that is!!!


Mechanic notes/report on strip down:

No oil in engine
No oil in inlet & intercooler
3 cracked pistons and damaged crank
Request fitting of new short block
Old 13 June 2012, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rb5 286
So update:

Subaru want my service book to see the service stamps and the front page with car chassis details etc before the consider a PWA??? What ever that is!!!


Mechanic notes/report on strip down:

No oil in engine
No oil in inlet & intercooler
3 cracked pistons and damaged crank
Request fitting of new short block

Parts Warranty Authorisation ?
Old 13 June 2012, 01:05 PM
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thanks

am i right in thinking that the 2010/2011 short block / pistons are revised and free of this ringland failure???

would they use this instead of an 08/09 one as replacement or just send another 08/09 one

if the answer is the latter, would i be within my rights to ask if they could fit a later revised one???
Old 13 June 2012, 01:06 PM
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Surely all of the details the require will be on the database?
Old 13 June 2012, 01:13 PM
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thats what i said but they need copies of the books so another day delay lol

i'm no expert but i cant see how no oil would cause 3 pistons to crack if they are trying to point the finger at me with the excuse of not checking oil levels regularly!!! and not topping it up!!!

which isnt the case as I carry a litre bottle in the passenger door at all times and its topped up from a gallon one in my garage!!!
Old 13 June 2012, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rb5 286
thanks

am i right in thinking that the 2010/2011 short block / pistons are revised and free of this ringland failure???

would they use this instead of an 08/09 one as replacement or just send another 08/09 one

if the answer is the latter, would i be within my rights to ask if they could fit a later revised one???

Same short block listed for all EJ257 MY08 onwards - 10103AC050
Old 13 June 2012, 02:37 PM
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Mark, I wonder if they will try and finger the garage / tech rather you.
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Originally Posted by rb5 286
So update:

Subaru want my service book to see the service stamps and the front page with car chassis details etc before the consider a PWA??? What ever that is!!!


Mechanic notes/report on strip down:

No oil in engine
No oil in inlet & intercooler
3 cracked pistons and damaged crank
Request fitting of new short block
No oil in engine - what, completely dry.
Where did it go
Old 13 June 2012, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
Same short block listed for all EJ257 MY08 onwards - 10103AC050
ok, revised pistons then? lol
Old 13 June 2012, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
No oil in engine - what, completely dry.
Where did it go
rob reckons its escaped thru the scores in the bores made by the pistons whch would have also caused hesitation which I was getting on first throttle
Old 13 June 2012, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
Not a good time to sell. There are lots of MY08 Hatches especially 330s’s on Autotrader. One I just saw 2010 60 Reg 22.5k miles, WR Blue. Looks bog standard other than 18” wheels (MY08 were 17” weren’t they??) for £13,995 at a Subaru Main Dealer. No PPP but gives you an idea.
There are now some pics for this one and it’s actually a WRX-S late registered hence the lower price – so advertised incorrectly as an STi. Shame they don’t still offer the STi in WR blue as looks the nuts with anthracite rims.

A Saloon has appeared on AutoTrader today for £23,995 61 reg 2012 with only 1300 miles. That is some serious saving for a car that is max 6 months old.

Only yesterday I got an email from Subaru offering a finance deal on a new STi. Total cost over 3 years £35,193. You’d have to be nuts to spend that amount.
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Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
A Saloon has appeared on AutoTrader today for £23,995 61 reg 2012 with only 1300 miles. That is some serious saving for a car that is max 6 months old.

Only yesterday I got an email from Subaru offering a finance deal on a new STi. Total cost over 3 years £35,193. You’d have to be nuts to spend that amount.
Give them a ring and see if they will throw in the 340R upgrade, rear spoiler and front splitter at the price for a cash deal.

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Old 13 June 2012, 07:55 PM
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The cracked pistons then score the bores which in turn causes the oil control ring and scraper to fail to clean the oil from the bores correctly, so therefore the only escape is to be burnt during the combustion process and the cycle goes on until there's non left.

The only revision since the my08 ej257 is the crank has been through the hardening process aka nitride think that's how it's spelt.

Pwa = pre warranty authority

Std part of a warranty claim is proof of service history nothing to be alarmed about
Old 13 June 2012, 09:36 PM
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On another note any of you guys looking to purchase a plasma blue hatch ?

We can offer a brand new plasma blue hatch sti £27,000 otr
Pdi'd ready to roll.
Old 14 June 2012, 07:46 AM
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cheers rob

do you think if a set of forge pistons are fitted to my engine during re-build this would stop the engine failures?

this is the 2nd now and the warranty runs out in July, I cant be stuck with another engine fail left to my own costs as aI simply dont have money for a rebuild, I dont want to sell the hatch but if forge pistons will be the answer then my worries can be put aside and I can enjoy it again.

if yes is the answer then can I ask subaru to supply & fit a set for me at their cost?
Old 14 June 2012, 08:36 AM
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Mark, I reckon Subaru would fit the forged items for you but paying for them would be another matter, if they did they are pretty much admitting there is a problem with the standard build!
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Originally Posted by Abx
Mark, I reckon Subaru would fit the forged items for you but paying for them would be another matter, if they did they are pretty much admitting there is a problem with the standard build!
funny cos after 4 years of evidence its pretty obvious where the fault lies - head in the sand or not


right , so next question is then, as i have absolutely no idea on this:

what pistons would I need and best place to get them from is it just pistons needed or other stuff too?

i'm not engine minded so i have no idea

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Dave at API recommends Supertech.
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Originally Posted by paulbu
Give them a ring and see if they will throw in the 340R upgrade, rear spoiler and front splitter at the price for a cash deal.
And ask them to modify it into a Hatch as that’s what I am after. At some point I may end up changing my mind but currently I am in no major rush so will keep looking. If I did I would be going the more subtle look so no rear STi spoiler for me
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Originally Posted by rob84
On another note any of you guys looking to purchase a plasma blue hatch ?

We can offer a brand new plasma blue hatch sti £27,000 otr
Pdi'd ready to roll.
Rob – plasma blue not my preferred choice and £27k still way past my £24k max budget. But if you get a white or silver hatch in around the £24k mark let me know pls.
Old 14 June 2012, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Imy877
Thank you, I've ordered the first one. Works out at £74 delivered, although I'll probably end up with additional charges from Royal Mail.
The splitter arrived earlier this week. only cost an additional £13 through parcelforce. Very Flexible stuff, the cracked one on my car must have been fibreglass.

Next mod is the stereo, I'm after a double din head unit / DVD player. Has anyone used this facia adapter? any feedback? http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/con-...u-impreza.html
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I've got one very similar to this, works a treat and fits the standard oversized hole as is oe.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-2-HD-Car...item2a1a2566f4
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mark i got mahale forged pistons & head studs off paul finch ( ref rob ) when my engine got rebuilded by rob

will dig number out
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Originally Posted by Abx
Mark, I reckon Subaru would fit the forged items for you but paying for them would be another matter, if they did they are pretty much admitting there is a problem with the standard build!
Rob - what's your view on this.

I'm sure Mark would happily purchase the pistons if Subaru would foot the bill for the labour.

Personally I reckon they'd turn their nose up at the very idea of it.
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I know of 1 who had his second warranty re-build at a subaru approved dealer/ garage and supplied his own forged bits.
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Cannot see any way that Subaru would get involved with a deviation away from there standard spec despite all that has gone on over the past 4 years. Personally i don't think they have learn't much at all from the engine issues.

It's such a great shame that they have not been brave enough to recognise the issues and at least work with there customers to give them peace of mind. They seem content to continue to body swerve as many situations as possible and keep throwing short motors at those that don't go away.

It's a disgrace really and the only reason why i am not sat looking at another new Subaru on my drive (voting with my Wallet)

Fingers crossed you get sorted Mark.


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