08/09 Hatches, Stand up and show yourselves!!!
07 October 2010, 08:02 PM
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Do you know how that 977 breaks down (excuse the pun)? Is that all hatches sold in the period 2008/09.
Are engine failures limited to just STi or are other 2.5L engines affected.
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07 October 2010, 08:22 PM
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I had same failure with my hawkeye cracked pistons using oil and there where quite a few failing back then it had engine build under warrenty, My hatchback has been fine no probs at 27,000 on clock
08 October 2010, 03:02 PM
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Breakdown
Hi Guys,
Been away to the Scotish Boarders , The fuel gauge was 1 mark of empty and the fuel light had just come on. Started to climb uphill when the car started to splutter then came to a halt. Rolled the car back down the hill and into a farmers gateway to be off the main road, the car was now nose down. Turned the key again and it now started but spluttered when reved (no fuel) miles from anywhere, sat nav said a petrol station was 5.2 miles away. waited 2.5 hrs for the RAC to arrive they kept saying they where 20 mins away!!
Now booked in
Been away to the Scotish Boarders , The fuel gauge was 1 mark of empty and the fuel light had just come on. Started to climb uphill when the car started to splutter then came to a halt. Rolled the car back down the hill and into a farmers gateway to be off the main road, the car was now nose down. Turned the key again and it now started but spluttered when reved (no fuel) miles from anywhere, sat nav said a petrol station was 5.2 miles away. waited 2.5 hrs for the RAC to arrive they kept saying they where 20 mins away!!
Now booked in
08 October 2010, 03:48 PM
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On another note, my spoiler came today. Should look like this when I get it back from scoobyclinic with my upgrades 
Only took 10 weeks to deliver, courier lost the first one.... If the original turns up, anyone want to buy it from me?
Only took 10 weeks to deliver, courier lost the first one.... If the original turns up, anyone want to buy it from me?
08 October 2010, 03:51 PM
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Subaru UK have been having some stick on Facebook and have issued this statemant!!
Engineering/Technical Statement
You will have been referred to this statement from your contact with several social networking sites.
Due to the fact that there has been quite a large amount of inaccurate and misleading comment on a number of these sites, we felt it appropriate from an engineering and technical perspective to outline the design brief of the 2.5 litre Subaru Boxer engine fitted to 2008/2009 Impreza WRX/STI and further explain some facts that will help your understanding.
Subaru is an environmentally conscious company that seeks to build products that are thoroughly engineered for the purpose for which they are intended with regard to delivering class leading performance whilst still meeting the very stringent environmental control standards demanded from modern day vehicles; not only by customers but also by the European Union.
The Subaru team of Engineers, who we believe to be the most capable and knowledgeable in the business have designed the 2.5 litre unit with lighter weight and lower friction materials, giving higher power without sacrificing current emission and CO2 outputs.
The expectation therefore, is that provided the engine is operated within design criteria, using correct fuel grades (97 RON) and serviced within the manufacturer’s guidelines, the engine will prove its durability in keeping with Subaru traditions.
From a statistical viewpoint, to date 1,044 Subaru Impreza WRX STI 08/09 model year vehicles have been supplied into the UK market through our distribution network and only a small percentage of those have suffered any kind of engine failure. It was recognised very early that a modification to the fuel cut off parameters at maximum engine revolutions was required to reduce impact stresses to the piston land area, therefore an ECU map re-write was introduced on all production vehicles. Also vehicles held in UK stock were modified and a Service Campaign was issued to the UK Subaru network for vehicles already placed in the market.
From the information gathered through Fuji Heavy Industries’ Engineering Teams, our Regional Service Managers and warranty information, it has been determined that engine failures have occurred due to one, or a combination of the following points:
The view taken by our warranty staff has been to investigate thoroughly each case presented, and where evidence is in any way inconclusive, we have always covered those units under the terms of the new vehicle warranty.
As customers should rightly expect, the engine will rev freely throughout its complete range, without fault, as long as the points above are observed.
You may be aware of a recent joint venture between Subaru (UK) and Cosworth in the development of the Impreza CS400 producing 400 BHP and 375 ft/lbs of torque. This engine has been entirely re-configured from the bottom up to ensure reliability at these power and torque outputs. The high degree of testing and engineering expertise employed by both Subaru (UK) and Cosworth on this project serves to highlight our belief that simply adding performance componentry without an exhaustive development programme will undoubtedly compromise reliability – as other performance tuners have found to their cost.
To benchmark the project, a standard WRX STI engine unit was run on a Dynamometer for 50 hours non-stop at varying power and speed settings to replicate the most extreme usage and to highlight any areas of concern; needless to say, no problems became evident despite being operated under these intense conditions. Cosworth Technical Director, Bruce Wood, confirmed the WRX STI OE specification unit passed Coworth’s test regime.
“We were encouraged that the standard STI engine passed our 50 hour continuous test, which we consider to be rigorous, as this indicated that the starting point for the CS400 programme was suitably robust.”
Our views are shared by the international motor service community and to present an independent engineering statement from an internationally recognised motor service organisation, MSI Motor Service International GmbH (www.ms-motor-service.com) which clearly states the following regarding piston failure:
“Material faults are not the reason for ring land fractures, even though they are often the suspected cause. This type of fracture always results from overstressing the material.” (Piston Damages – Recognising and Rectifying, section 3.4.4)
Our stance is clear and consistent on these issues; where customers are prepared to modify and/or operate their vehicles outside the design parameters, this will invalidate our warranty agreement because it can be expected that failures will occur through no fault of Fuji Heavy Industries or Subaru (UK) in regard to faulty manufacture or improper design, always remembering that the 08/09 STI is designed to be completely reliable at around 300 BHP (and 330 BHP for the STI 330S) but not at 350, 380 or even 400 BHP - power levels at which some owners claim to be running their vehicles. Where any doubt exists, the warranty available through Subaru (UK) is there to support any engine and vehicle defect reported.
Should any customer/owner require assistance with engine or indeed any vehicle related issue, the initial approach would be to discuss the problem with your selling/servicing dealer who will involve the services of Subaru (UK) if required. Customer satisfaction is at the heart of everything we do and it is absolutely not in Subaru (UK)’s interest, either financially or reputationally, to decline fair and proper warranty claims. We will not do it.
Delivery of excellent customer support is our goal, and our award-winning performance in this area over a period of more than 30 years is no coincidence.
We would like to thank you for choosing Subaru and ensure you of our endeavour to make your ownership experience a good one.
Subaru (UK)
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You will have been referred to this statement from your contact with several social networking sites.
Due to the fact that there has been quite a large amount of inaccurate and misleading comment on a number of these sites, we felt it appropriate from an engineering and technical perspective to outline the design brief of the 2.5 litre Subaru Boxer engine fitted to 2008/2009 Impreza WRX/STI and further explain some facts that will help your understanding.
Subaru is an environmentally conscious company that seeks to build products that are thoroughly engineered for the purpose for which they are intended with regard to delivering class leading performance whilst still meeting the very stringent environmental control standards demanded from modern day vehicles; not only by customers but also by the European Union.
The Subaru team of Engineers, who we believe to be the most capable and knowledgeable in the business have designed the 2.5 litre unit with lighter weight and lower friction materials, giving higher power without sacrificing current emission and CO2 outputs.
The expectation therefore, is that provided the engine is operated within design criteria, using correct fuel grades (97 RON) and serviced within the manufacturer’s guidelines, the engine will prove its durability in keeping with Subaru traditions.
From a statistical viewpoint, to date 1,044 Subaru Impreza WRX STI 08/09 model year vehicles have been supplied into the UK market through our distribution network and only a small percentage of those have suffered any kind of engine failure. It was recognised very early that a modification to the fuel cut off parameters at maximum engine revolutions was required to reduce impact stresses to the piston land area, therefore an ECU map re-write was introduced on all production vehicles. Also vehicles held in UK stock were modified and a Service Campaign was issued to the UK Subaru network for vehicles already placed in the market.
From the information gathered through Fuji Heavy Industries’ Engineering Teams, our Regional Service Managers and warranty information, it has been determined that engine failures have occurred due to one, or a combination of the following points:
- Engine rev limits being constantly exceeded due to over speeding
- Vehicles being un-officially modified outside the design brief of the engine (unit is designed for around 300 BHP or 330 BHP in the case of the STI 330S, not more)
- Track use (racing, time trials, rallying etc)
- Incorrect maintenance procedures, causing engines to be run with insufficient or contaminated lubricating oils
- Use of incorrect fuel grade (RON)
- Unofficial “grey” Imports of undetermined specification, ie. not supplied by Subaru (UK)
The view taken by our warranty staff has been to investigate thoroughly each case presented, and where evidence is in any way inconclusive, we have always covered those units under the terms of the new vehicle warranty.
As customers should rightly expect, the engine will rev freely throughout its complete range, without fault, as long as the points above are observed.
You may be aware of a recent joint venture between Subaru (UK) and Cosworth in the development of the Impreza CS400 producing 400 BHP and 375 ft/lbs of torque. This engine has been entirely re-configured from the bottom up to ensure reliability at these power and torque outputs. The high degree of testing and engineering expertise employed by both Subaru (UK) and Cosworth on this project serves to highlight our belief that simply adding performance componentry without an exhaustive development programme will undoubtedly compromise reliability – as other performance tuners have found to their cost.
To benchmark the project, a standard WRX STI engine unit was run on a Dynamometer for 50 hours non-stop at varying power and speed settings to replicate the most extreme usage and to highlight any areas of concern; needless to say, no problems became evident despite being operated under these intense conditions. Cosworth Technical Director, Bruce Wood, confirmed the WRX STI OE specification unit passed Coworth’s test regime.
“We were encouraged that the standard STI engine passed our 50 hour continuous test, which we consider to be rigorous, as this indicated that the starting point for the CS400 programme was suitably robust.”
Our views are shared by the international motor service community and to present an independent engineering statement from an internationally recognised motor service organisation, MSI Motor Service International GmbH (www.ms-motor-service.com) which clearly states the following regarding piston failure:
“Material faults are not the reason for ring land fractures, even though they are often the suspected cause. This type of fracture always results from overstressing the material.” (Piston Damages – Recognising and Rectifying, section 3.4.4)
Our stance is clear and consistent on these issues; where customers are prepared to modify and/or operate their vehicles outside the design parameters, this will invalidate our warranty agreement because it can be expected that failures will occur through no fault of Fuji Heavy Industries or Subaru (UK) in regard to faulty manufacture or improper design, always remembering that the 08/09 STI is designed to be completely reliable at around 300 BHP (and 330 BHP for the STI 330S) but not at 350, 380 or even 400 BHP - power levels at which some owners claim to be running their vehicles. Where any doubt exists, the warranty available through Subaru (UK) is there to support any engine and vehicle defect reported.
Should any customer/owner require assistance with engine or indeed any vehicle related issue, the initial approach would be to discuss the problem with your selling/servicing dealer who will involve the services of Subaru (UK) if required. Customer satisfaction is at the heart of everything we do and it is absolutely not in Subaru (UK)’s interest, either financially or reputationally, to decline fair and proper warranty claims. We will not do it.
Delivery of excellent customer support is our goal, and our award-winning performance in this area over a period of more than 30 years is no coincidence.
We would like to thank you for choosing Subaru and ensure you of our endeavour to make your ownership experience a good one.
Subaru (UK)
8 October 2010
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08 October 2010, 04:04 PM
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pm me with price .
where did u get it from anyways
08 October 2010, 04:20 PM
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imexdesigns.co.uk (under body kits section) - its part carbon fibre
£427 shipped from Japan
You can get it direct from USA if you want, they charge $400+ PLUS shipping of around another $500
When I get it fitted, will take a pic of car and post it here
£427 shipped from Japan
You can get it direct from USA if you want, they charge $400+ PLUS shipping of around another $500
When I get it fitted, will take a pic of car and post it here
08 October 2010, 05:38 PM
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Just fitted my new Kenwood DDX-5024 with a JDM AV panel (cheers Al 
), last years model so got it for a good price. Also fitted the steering wheel control harness.... very happy with it so far. As i've read the standard speakers aren't bad at all, its the naff head unit that's the week link.
Will be adding bluetooth at some point and may even consider a rear view camera. Nav doesn't really interest me unless the i get a bargain unit.
Tony.
), last years model so got it for a good price. Also fitted the steering wheel control harness.... very happy with it so far. As i've read the standard speakers aren't bad at all, its the naff head unit that's the week link.Will be adding bluetooth at some point and may even consider a rear view camera. Nav doesn't really interest me unless the i get a bargain unit.
Tony.
09 October 2010, 12:21 AM
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They had the CS400 lower rear spoiler on their shelf for over 2 years ... the car hasn't even come out yet so that's a good trick!
Who are they - do they wanna sell us a cheap rear lower spoiler then if they can't sell them?
So HT Auto's ain't going to make these urethane Coswoth hach rear lower spoilers then ??
disappointing... how many do you need to sell to offsett the ( what, £2000 tool / set up ) costs ?
Ta
Neil
Who are they - do they wanna sell us a cheap rear lower spoiler then if they can't sell them?
So HT Auto's ain't going to make these urethane Coswoth hach rear lower spoilers then ??
disappointing... how many do you need to sell to offsett the ( what, £2000 tool / set up ) costs ?
Ta
Neil
the tooling for me to make this part would be a couple of grand+, so not sure its worth the risk
09 October 2010, 12:29 AM
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also been told that IM have stated the boot of the UK saloon is too weak to take a large spoiler hence the lack of one and only a small one on offer.
when asked about the JDM and USA version that come with it standard, they have different law regs there for stronger boots!!!!
WTF!!!!!
when asked about the JDM and USA version that come with it standard, they have different law regs there for stronger boots!!!!
WTF!!!!!
09 October 2010, 09:10 AM
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Engineering/Technical Statement
You will have been referred to this statement from your contact with several social networking sites.
Due to the fact that there has been quite a large amount of inaccurate and misleading comment on a number of these sites, we felt it appropriate from an engineering and technical perspective to outline the design brief of the 2.5 litre Subaru Boxer engine fitted to 2008/2009 Impreza WRX/STI and further explain some facts that will help your understanding.
Subaru is an environmentally conscious company that seeks to build products that are thoroughly engineered for the purpose for which they are intended with regard to delivering class leading performance whilst still meeting the very stringent environmental control standards demanded from modern day vehicles; not only by customers but also by the European Union.
The Subaru team of Engineers, who we believe to be the most capable and knowledgeable in the business have designed the 2.5 litre unit with lighter weight and lower friction materials, giving higher power without sacrificing current emission and CO2 outputs.
The expectation therefore, is that provided the engine is operated within design criteria, using correct fuel grades (97 RON) and serviced within the manufacturer’s guidelines, the engine will prove its durability in keeping with Subaru traditions.
From a statistical viewpoint, to date 1,044 Subaru Impreza WRX STI 08/09 model year vehicles have been supplied into the UK market through our distribution network and only a small percentage of those have suffered any kind of engine failure. It was recognised very early that a modification to the fuel cut off parameters at maximum engine revolutions was required to reduce impact stresses to the piston land area, therefore an ECU map re-write was introduced on all production vehicles. Also vehicles held in UK stock were modified and a Service Campaign was issued to the UK Subaru network for vehicles already placed in the market.
From the information gathered through Fuji Heavy Industries’ Engineering Teams, our Regional Service Managers and warranty information, it has been determined that engine failures have occurred due to one, or a combination of the following points:
The view taken by our warranty staff has been to investigate thoroughly each case presented, and where evidence is in any way inconclusive, we have always covered those units under the terms of the new vehicle warranty.
As customers should rightly expect, the engine will rev freely throughout its complete range, without fault, as long as the points above are observed.
You may be aware of a recent joint venture between Subaru (UK) and Cosworth in the development of the Impreza CS400 producing 400 BHP and 375 ft/lbs of torque. This engine has been entirely re-configured from the bottom up to ensure reliability at these power and torque outputs. The high degree of testing and engineering expertise employed by both Subaru (UK) and Cosworth on this project serves to highlight our belief that simply adding performance componentry without an exhaustive development programme will undoubtedly compromise reliability – as other performance tuners have found to their cost.
To benchmark the project, a standard WRX STI engine unit was run on a Dynamometer for 50 hours non-stop at varying power and speed settings to replicate the most extreme usage and to highlight any areas of concern; needless to say, no problems became evident despite being operated under these intense conditions. Cosworth Technical Director, Bruce Wood, confirmed the WRX STI OE specification unit passed Coworth’s test regime.
“We were encouraged that the standard STI engine passed our 50 hour continuous test, which we consider to be rigorous, as this indicated that the starting point for the CS400 programme was suitably robust.”
Our views are shared by the international motor service community and to present an independent engineering statement from an internationally recognised motor service organisation, MSI Motor Service International GmbH (www.ms-motor-service.com) which clearly states the following regarding piston failure:
“Material faults are not the reason for ring land fractures, even though they are often the suspected cause. This type of fracture always results from overstressing the material.” (Piston Damages – Recognising and Rectifying, section 3.4.4)
Our stance is clear and consistent on these issues; where customers are prepared to modify and/or operate their vehicles outside the design parameters, this will invalidate our warranty agreement because it can be expected that failures will occur through no fault of Fuji Heavy Industries or Subaru (UK) in regard to faulty manufacture or improper design, always remembering that the 08/09 STI is designed to be completely reliable at around 300 BHP (and 330 BHP for the STI 330S) but not at 350, 380 or even 400 BHP - power levels at which some owners claim to be running their vehicles. Where any doubt exists, the warranty available through Subaru (UK) is there to support any engine and vehicle defect reported.
Should any customer/owner require assistance with engine or indeed any vehicle related issue, the initial approach would be to discuss the problem with your selling/servicing dealer who will involve the services of Subaru (UK) if required. Customer satisfaction is at the heart of everything we do and it is absolutely not in Subaru (UK)’s interest, either financially or reputationally, to decline fair and proper warranty claims. We will not do it.
Delivery of excellent customer support is our goal, and our award-winning performance in this area over a period of more than 30 years is no coincidence.
We would like to thank you for choosing Subaru and ensure you of our endeavour to make your ownership experience a good one.
Subaru (UK)
8 October 2010
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You will have been referred to this statement from your contact with several social networking sites.
Due to the fact that there has been quite a large amount of inaccurate and misleading comment on a number of these sites, we felt it appropriate from an engineering and technical perspective to outline the design brief of the 2.5 litre Subaru Boxer engine fitted to 2008/2009 Impreza WRX/STI and further explain some facts that will help your understanding.
Subaru is an environmentally conscious company that seeks to build products that are thoroughly engineered for the purpose for which they are intended with regard to delivering class leading performance whilst still meeting the very stringent environmental control standards demanded from modern day vehicles; not only by customers but also by the European Union.
The Subaru team of Engineers, who we believe to be the most capable and knowledgeable in the business have designed the 2.5 litre unit with lighter weight and lower friction materials, giving higher power without sacrificing current emission and CO2 outputs.
The expectation therefore, is that provided the engine is operated within design criteria, using correct fuel grades (97 RON) and serviced within the manufacturer’s guidelines, the engine will prove its durability in keeping with Subaru traditions.
From a statistical viewpoint, to date 1,044 Subaru Impreza WRX STI 08/09 model year vehicles have been supplied into the UK market through our distribution network and only a small percentage of those have suffered any kind of engine failure. It was recognised very early that a modification to the fuel cut off parameters at maximum engine revolutions was required to reduce impact stresses to the piston land area, therefore an ECU map re-write was introduced on all production vehicles. Also vehicles held in UK stock were modified and a Service Campaign was issued to the UK Subaru network for vehicles already placed in the market.
From the information gathered through Fuji Heavy Industries’ Engineering Teams, our Regional Service Managers and warranty information, it has been determined that engine failures have occurred due to one, or a combination of the following points:
- Engine rev limits being constantly exceeded due to over speeding
- Vehicles being un-officially modified outside the design brief of the engine (unit is designed for around 300 BHP or 330 BHP in the case of the STI 330S, not more)
- Track use (racing, time trials, rallying etc)
- Incorrect maintenance procedures, causing engines to be run with insufficient or contaminated lubricating oils
- Use of incorrect fuel grade (RON)
- Unofficial “grey” Imports of undetermined specification, ie. not supplied by Subaru (UK)
The view taken by our warranty staff has been to investigate thoroughly each case presented, and where evidence is in any way inconclusive, we have always covered those units under the terms of the new vehicle warranty.
As customers should rightly expect, the engine will rev freely throughout its complete range, without fault, as long as the points above are observed.
You may be aware of a recent joint venture between Subaru (UK) and Cosworth in the development of the Impreza CS400 producing 400 BHP and 375 ft/lbs of torque. This engine has been entirely re-configured from the bottom up to ensure reliability at these power and torque outputs. The high degree of testing and engineering expertise employed by both Subaru (UK) and Cosworth on this project serves to highlight our belief that simply adding performance componentry without an exhaustive development programme will undoubtedly compromise reliability – as other performance tuners have found to their cost.
To benchmark the project, a standard WRX STI engine unit was run on a Dynamometer for 50 hours non-stop at varying power and speed settings to replicate the most extreme usage and to highlight any areas of concern; needless to say, no problems became evident despite being operated under these intense conditions. Cosworth Technical Director, Bruce Wood, confirmed the WRX STI OE specification unit passed Coworth’s test regime.
“We were encouraged that the standard STI engine passed our 50 hour continuous test, which we consider to be rigorous, as this indicated that the starting point for the CS400 programme was suitably robust.”
Our views are shared by the international motor service community and to present an independent engineering statement from an internationally recognised motor service organisation, MSI Motor Service International GmbH (www.ms-motor-service.com) which clearly states the following regarding piston failure:
“Material faults are not the reason for ring land fractures, even though they are often the suspected cause. This type of fracture always results from overstressing the material.” (Piston Damages – Recognising and Rectifying, section 3.4.4)
Our stance is clear and consistent on these issues; where customers are prepared to modify and/or operate their vehicles outside the design parameters, this will invalidate our warranty agreement because it can be expected that failures will occur through no fault of Fuji Heavy Industries or Subaru (UK) in regard to faulty manufacture or improper design, always remembering that the 08/09 STI is designed to be completely reliable at around 300 BHP (and 330 BHP for the STI 330S) but not at 350, 380 or even 400 BHP - power levels at which some owners claim to be running their vehicles. Where any doubt exists, the warranty available through Subaru (UK) is there to support any engine and vehicle defect reported.
Should any customer/owner require assistance with engine or indeed any vehicle related issue, the initial approach would be to discuss the problem with your selling/servicing dealer who will involve the services of Subaru (UK) if required. Customer satisfaction is at the heart of everything we do and it is absolutely not in Subaru (UK)’s interest, either financially or reputationally, to decline fair and proper warranty claims. We will not do it.
Delivery of excellent customer support is our goal, and our award-winning performance in this area over a period of more than 30 years is no coincidence.
We would like to thank you for choosing Subaru and ensure you of our endeavour to make your ownership experience a good one.
Subaru (UK)
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09 October 2010, 11:37 AM
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Agree, my car was driven completely normally (fast but not over the red line) on public roads, on the right fuel (V-Power only) and was not modified in anyway. And it still had ringland/piston failure...
The standard ECU map was at fault, Subaru Japan made a mistake (their fuel is higher octane than Europe & the USA), and some of us got det and ringland failure in the USA and UK as a result. I just wish they would be man enough to admit they made a mistake
Have to say though, my dealer was excellent (Bulldog in Twyford) and it was all sorted under warranty, been fine since the new ECU map was introduced
The standard ECU map was at fault, Subaru Japan made a mistake (their fuel is higher octane than Europe & the USA), and some of us got det and ringland failure in the USA and UK as a result. I just wish they would be man enough to admit they made a mistake
Have to say though, my dealer was excellent (Bulldog in Twyford) and it was all sorted under warranty, been fine since the new ECU map was introduced
09 October 2010, 11:44 AM
#3924
it makes me laugh this statement
in summary, they are saying that they are selling a high performance vehicle at a price that reflects this, yet in reality the vehicle cannot be driven this way!!
funny that they mention the engine failures are due to track days, when their brochure contains this:
forgive me for thinking that these settings Circuit driving and motorsports relate to 'Track days' or am I mistaking that for something completey different???
As for the CS400, cosworth tried to use their own pistons on the standard internals and found these to just disintegrate, therefore having to rebuild it from the bottom with their own rings, bearings, etc up just to eek out another 100bhp!!!
scary really when you think this car is sold as a high performance car with a price tag to reflect this.
in summary, they are saying that they are selling a high performance vehicle at a price that reflects this, yet in reality the vehicle cannot be driven this way!!
funny that they mention the engine failures are due to track days, when their brochure contains this:
* Normal driving: SI-Drive (SPORT) + Multi-mode DCCD (AUTO) + Multi-mode VDC (NORMAL)
* Fast/Circuit driving: SI-Drive (SPORT #) + Multi-mode DCCD (AUTO -) + Multi-mode VDC (TRACTION)
* Race/Motosports: SI-Drive (SPORT #) + Multi-mode DCCD (MANUAL) + Multi-mode VDC (OFF)
* Snow: SI-Drive (SPORT or INTELLIGENT) + Multi-mode DCCD (AUTO +) + Multi-mode VDC (NORMAL)
* Fast/Circuit driving: SI-Drive (SPORT #) + Multi-mode DCCD (AUTO -) + Multi-mode VDC (TRACTION)
* Race/Motosports: SI-Drive (SPORT #) + Multi-mode DCCD (MANUAL) + Multi-mode VDC (OFF)
* Snow: SI-Drive (SPORT or INTELLIGENT) + Multi-mode DCCD (AUTO +) + Multi-mode VDC (NORMAL)
As for the CS400, cosworth tried to use their own pistons on the standard internals and found these to just disintegrate, therefore having to rebuild it from the bottom with their own rings, bearings, etc up just to eek out another 100bhp!!!
scary really when you think this car is sold as a high performance car with a price tag to reflect this.
09 October 2010, 01:37 PM
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Fast/ Circuit driving...........Race/Motorsports.........
I can see some Subaru brochures being edited as we speak. Maybe the failures are the fault of the brochure company ???
I can see some Subaru brochures being edited as we speak. Maybe the failures are the fault of the brochure company ???
10 October 2010, 01:30 AM
#3926
it makes me laugh this statement
in summary, they are saying that they are selling a high performance vehicle at a price that reflects this, yet in reality the vehicle cannot be driven this way!!
funny that they mention the engine failures are due to track days, when their brochure contains this:
forgive me for thinking that these settings Circuit driving and motorsports relate to 'Track days' or am I mistaking that for something completey different???
As for the CS400, cosworth tried to use their own pistons on the standard internals and found these to just disintegrate, therefore having to rebuild it from the bottom with their own rings, bearings, etc up just to eek out another 100bhp!!!
scary really when you think this car is sold as a high performance car with a price tag to reflect this.
in summary, they are saying that they are selling a high performance vehicle at a price that reflects this, yet in reality the vehicle cannot be driven this way!!
funny that they mention the engine failures are due to track days, when their brochure contains this:
* Normal driving: SI-Drive (SPORT) + Multi-mode DCCD (AUTO) + Multi-mode VDC (NORMAL)
* Fast/Circuit driving: SI-Drive (SPORT #) + Multi-mode DCCD (AUTO -) + Multi-mode VDC (TRACTION)
* Race/Motosports: SI-Drive (SPORT #) + Multi-mode DCCD (MANUAL) + Multi-mode VDC (OFF)
* Snow: SI-Drive (SPORT or INTELLIGENT) + Multi-mode DCCD (AUTO +) + Multi-mode VDC (NORMAL)
* Fast/Circuit driving: SI-Drive (SPORT #) + Multi-mode DCCD (AUTO -) + Multi-mode VDC (TRACTION)
* Race/Motosports: SI-Drive (SPORT #) + Multi-mode DCCD (MANUAL) + Multi-mode VDC (OFF)
* Snow: SI-Drive (SPORT or INTELLIGENT) + Multi-mode DCCD (AUTO +) + Multi-mode VDC (NORMAL)
As for the CS400, cosworth tried to use their own pistons on the standard internals and found these to just disintegrate, therefore having to rebuild it from the bottom with their own rings, bearings, etc up just to eek out another 100bhp!!!
scary really when you think this car is sold as a high performance car with a price tag to reflect this.
11 October 2010, 03:47 PM
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