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Nelson P Junior admitted he agreed to crash hoping it would enhance the possibilities of staying at Renault, and it was his father Nelson P senior who told the FIA.
Like Brundle said "it was real low to mention it when the sport had been so rewarding to NP senior".
F1 has always and will always be full of that. Emptying fire eater systems and filling tyres with water have been known (one by Ferrari).
I reckon another trick has happened recently. Force India does not go from the back of the grid to the front within 2 races unless they had been given info. No way can development make such a difference in one month.
Like Brundle said "it was real low to mention it when the sport had been so rewarding to NP senior".
F1 has always and will always be full of that. Emptying fire eater systems and filling tyres with water have been known (one by Ferrari).
I reckon another trick has happened recently. Force India does not go from the back of the grid to the front within 2 races unless they had been given info. No way can development make such a difference in one month.
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Nelson P Junior admitted he agreed to crash hoping it would enhance the possibilities of staying at Renault, and it was his father Nelson P senior who told the FIA.
Like Brundle said "it was real low to mention it when the sport had been so rewarding to NP senior".
F1 has always and will always be full of that. Emptying fire eater systems and filling tyres with water have been known (one by Ferrari).
I reckon another trick has happened recently. Force India does not go from the back of the grid to the front within 2 races unless they had been given info. No way can development make such a difference in one month.
Like Brundle said "it was real low to mention it when the sport had been so rewarding to NP senior".
F1 has always and will always be full of that. Emptying fire eater systems and filling tyres with water have been known (one by Ferrari).
I reckon another trick has happened recently. Force India does not go from the back of the grid to the front within 2 races unless they had been given info. No way can development make such a difference in one month.
I was just wondering if Ferrari done it to give them an edge? And if it does how?
I say bring back full slicks, take off the plank of wood underneath so they can get the cars as low as they used to be. Then take away all their gizmos. No LC, PAS, ABS, TC and so on.
I say bring back full slicks, take off the plank of wood underneath so they can get the cars as low as they used to be. Then take away all their gizmos. No LC, PAS, ABS, TC and so on.
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Yep that would be good mneame. Mosley needs to go and the rules need to be relaxed to make it proper F1 again.
Regarding the latest Renault episode, all the other team bosses knew what Renault were up to, but nothing was said because all those things go on, and always have.
Ferrari (years ago), used to remove the fire bottles (part of the fire eating system), refit the bottles filled with lead so they made the weight, then remove them enabling them to be lighter on the grid, (so much for driver safety)!!
It was a british team in the late 70's that were caught with water in the tyres whilst being weighed, to make up weight that had been removed from the car. They started the race lighter than every other car, unless the other teams were also up to tricks
It's also why most of the current F1 drivers look like Thunderbirds puppets. Webber lost so much weight he looked he ill mid season.
One of the only genuine gains in F1 is Adrian Newey. The guy is a genius. Rahal, Fittipaldi, Unser, Mansell, Prost & Senna all became world champions in race cars designed by Newey. He is currently with Red Bull. Keep your eyes on them over the next few seasons.
Regarding the latest Renault episode, all the other team bosses knew what Renault were up to, but nothing was said because all those things go on, and always have.
Ferrari (years ago), used to remove the fire bottles (part of the fire eating system), refit the bottles filled with lead so they made the weight, then remove them enabling them to be lighter on the grid, (so much for driver safety)!!
It was a british team in the late 70's that were caught with water in the tyres whilst being weighed, to make up weight that had been removed from the car. They started the race lighter than every other car, unless the other teams were also up to tricks
It's also why most of the current F1 drivers look like Thunderbirds puppets. Webber lost so much weight he looked he ill mid season.
One of the only genuine gains in F1 is Adrian Newey. The guy is a genius. Rahal, Fittipaldi, Unser, Mansell, Prost & Senna all became world champions in race cars designed by Newey. He is currently with Red Bull. Keep your eyes on them over the next few seasons.
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Awesome day at Castle Coombe at The Rally Day.
Much largest than I expected.
Good to meet up with you P1 guys (21 P1's side by side looked cool.
Hopefully next time 22
2 hrs sleep in 48 resulted in missing Elvington on Sunday
What happened ??
Much largest than I expected.
Good to meet up with you P1 guys (21 P1's side by side looked cool.
Hopefully next time 22
2 hrs sleep in 48 resulted in missing Elvington on Sunday
What happened ??
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Madhammer, you know the Ring lap record has just been broken (by a Brit).
He is based in your town. Check out the vid.
The guy DROVE the car to the Ring, then smashed the record !!
Road to Nurburgring | Video | evo
He is based in your town. Check out the vid.
The guy DROVE the car to the Ring, then smashed the record !!
Road to Nurburgring | Video | evo
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Cracking car, so similar to Marty's P1
Wicked! Indeed, awesome achievement.
Is that in his STi 5 Type R V-Ltd, that he ran in TOTB III (obviously heavily modded)?
Do you know what his engine/drivetrain/bhp spec was for that run, SF?
Is that in his STi 5 Type R V-Ltd, that he ran in TOTB III (obviously heavily modded)?
Do you know what his engine/drivetrain/bhp spec was for that run, SF?
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Madhammer, you know the Ring lap record has just been broken (by a Brit).
He is based in your town. Check out the vid.
The guy DROVE the car to the Ring, then smashed the record !!
Road to Nurburgring | Video | evo
He is based in your town. Check out the vid.
The guy DROVE the car to the Ring, then smashed the record !!
Road to Nurburgring | Video | evo
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Well done mad, yrve beaten my pb on 10.6, I did a 10.69 today, but coulnd go any faster, so called it a day at 2 ish.
yr going faster and faster, and handling as well. No disrespect, but I rekon yrve got one of the best cost=performance subis out there.
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Car amazed me yesterday, just ran perfectly. Lets see what your does when you run high boost !
ha hI felt bad waking him up to chat cars.Thanks for taking the time to chat with us Clive, very interesting to catch up with you and to see the finished car, looked stunning. Looking 4ward to reading about project 2
