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Old 07 May 2008, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
I don't think that's a very nice thing to say in the circumstances. Is it supposed to be a witty reposte with suitable smiley or do you just care so little about the tragedy that is happening right now? dl
David, the way I see it is that a tragedy is a tragedy, it happens everyday, on different scales, all over the world.

To me, the ongoing tragedy of the 'heat or eat' pensioners who live in this country is far more relevent and important than what is a happening after a tropical storm in a remote part of south east asia.

As Suresh suggests it should be an organisation like the Association of Southeast Asian Nations who should bear the responsibility for this, not us.

That 5 million could/should be better spent at home.

I'll rest my case....
Old 07 May 2008, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
does it not seem decidedly wrong to you to compare the trials an tribulations of day to day life in the UK with that of those people affected by the cyclone in Burma?
Why? Don't we count?


Thought not....

Frankly I'm bored of all this endless bleeting....

If you care so much, then sell your car your TV your stereo, and (please) you PC and donate the proceeds to the Burmese Junta and give us all a rest.... Goodnight

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Old 07 May 2008, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Why? Don't we count?
Nice bit of selective quoting there ...-
Originally Posted by Me
As genuine as peoples problems are in this country, does it not seem decidedly wrong to you to compare the trials an tribulations of day to day life in the UK with that of those people affected by the cyclone in Burma
Originally Posted by unclebuck
Frankly I'm bored of all this endless bleeting....

If you care so much, then sell your car your TV your stereo, and (please) you PC and donate the proceeds to the Burmese Junta and give us all a rest.... Goodnight
Another one bites the dust
Old 07 May 2008, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Another one bites the dust
As I correctly pointed out - your 'moral compass' serves only to boost your own ego - has nothing to do with principles. .

I win... and I really do have to go now....
Old 07 May 2008, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Did we touch a nerve?

As for most of the things you mention, well obviously you haven't been reading the various threads relating to them, because people do care (at least some of us anyway)
I find this funny, who do you think you are?


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Old 07 May 2008, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
(i)What impact do you think that £5 million would have on any of those "struggles"? (and again, I use the word comparatively)

Bear in mind when responding, that £5million represents 9 pence for every man woman and child in the country. Not 9 pence per week, or per day. But just a single solitary 9 pence.

Just what difference do you think that will make?

(ii)As genuine as peoples problems are in this country, does it not seem decidedly wrong to you to compare the trials an tribulations of day to day life in the UK with that of those people affected by the cyclone in Burma?
Who says we have to compare anything?

Why dont you drop everything over here in europe and "contribute" to reducing their trials and tribulations?
Old 07 May 2008, 01:19 AM
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I cant believe I have gone down this stupid road of trying to put across a personal view in Snet.

Last time "we" had a "open discussion" like this, it happened that I was infracted because I thought it was bad to kill dolphins and by chance I had mentioned that sometime I help some animal rights/shelters out......

That is SNet for ya!
Old 07 May 2008, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Janspeed
Who says we have to compare anything?
I wasn;t comparing anything , it was 'buck that was doing that.
Originally Posted by Janspeed
Why dont you drop everything over here in europe and "contribute" to reducing their trials and tribulations?
Because I have a family to take care of. I do what I can - Which, is a lot better than nothing, and a whole lot better than actively discouraging it.
Old 07 May 2008, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
As I correctly pointed out - your 'moral compass' serves only to boost your own ego - has nothing to do with principles. .

I win... and I really do have to go now....
Oh don't be such a girl. You made a flippant remark, so I repled in the same way.
Old 07 May 2008, 09:20 AM
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Some sad people in here if they cant handle the government handing out £5million to Burma after whats been such a big scale disaster.

Some of the remarks are pretty shallow too, quite impressed infractions havent been handed out.
Old 07 May 2008, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Some sad people in here if they cant handle the government handing out £5million to Burma after whats been such a big scale disaster.

Some of the remarks are pretty shallow too, quite impressed infractions havent been handed out.

Wooden spoon Dave?
Old 07 May 2008, 09:36 AM
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There are people in cut off remote areas with no water and no food. All they can do is hope someone comes to help. I like to think the western governments can stop wasting my taxes for a few minutes and send a bit of food and water.
The UK first invaded Burma in 1820 and invaded twice leaving in 1945 after trying to make it a province of India.
To fulfil our responabilities we should have left it in a stable political conditon. The military junta grew out of conditions the UK created under 100 years of occupation and war. Under those circumstances I think we can shell out for some bottles of Evian and some mars bars.
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
There are people in cut off remote areas with no water and no food. All they can do is hope someone comes to help. I like to think the western governments can stop wasting my taxes for a few minutes and send a bit of food and water.
The UK first invaded Burma in 1820 and invaded twice leaving in 1945 after trying to make it a province of India.
To fulfil our responabilities we should have left it in a stable political conditon. The military junta grew out of conditions the UK created under 100 years of occupation and war. Under those circumstances I think we can shell out for some bottles of Evian and some mars bars.
Oh FFS, stop blaming the West whenever a 3rd world st1thole makes a mess of its opportunities. The political situation in Burma is the fault of ASEAN who have the leverage to do something but choose to do precisely nothing.

India wasn't left in a stable political state, but finally turned out pretty much okay to the extent that their companies are buying western companies even.

Saw the news tonight and all the aid donated from SN members and others is probably still sitting on the tarmac at Heathrow.
Old 09 May 2008, 08:40 AM
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I did laugh at the news that the junta will not accept the aid workers or aid relief from a lot of countries but are happy to accept their cash hahaha
Old 09 May 2008, 08:46 AM
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It's a really sad state of affairs. Hopefully it can be resolved soon with aid getting to where it is needed.
Old 09 May 2008, 08:57 AM
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There'll be a push from some countries to carry out unauthorised air drops. If the military take out one of these planes then the **** really will hit the proverbial.

Basically the generals are prepared to sacrifice tens of thousands of their own people and leave them to die in a quagmire of filth and stinking bodies.

But, as some on SN say, sadly in my view, what the hell it's not our problem. dl
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