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Old 21 August 2007, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bob269
The pc version of £27 i quoted was downloading from steam, ie. no packaging costs, manufacture costs etc.

Not sure what the prices are for the pc version of bio off the shelf
Gameplay are selling the PC dvd version for £24.99, so it seems that steam is ripping you off as you can get it cheaper with all the packaging.
Old 21 August 2007, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bob269
The pc version of £27 i quoted was downloading from steam, ie. no packaging costs, manufacture costs etc.

Not sure what the prices are for the pc version of bio off the shelf
Steam is overcharging.

Amazon.co.uk: Bioshock - Limited Edition [Tin Case] (PC): PC & Video Games
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Possibly, but from the publishers point of view it's a gamble and when nobody else is doing it, why should they. Why risk commercial suicide when you are making a nice profit keeping the status quo?
How it is a gamble? If you are confident of selling the game at £39.99 - why on earth wouldn't you be confident at £29.99 or £19.99?

The reason you would drop it is because, potentially, you will make an even bigger profit.

The pressure to sell your product is bigger now than it ever has been in the gaming sector. Development costs are enourmous, and that money needs to be recouped.

Dropping the price to stimulate demand is a well known economic practice. And you would have thought with BioShock, especially given System Shock2's history, they would be keen to actually sell some product this time.

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In any case I fine it hard to believe that dropping the prices by a tenner will result in a 5000x increase in sales!!
I didn't say that. I said where prices have been slashed there have been instances of sales going up by 5000% - Which is not the same as saying sales have increased 5000 fold when the price was dropped by a tenner
Old 21 August 2007, 04:56 PM
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im actually more miffed about the price slashing of the hardware, having a less than perfect replacement only after a few months.
its the false advertising of listing the lowest denominator that bugs me. save £140 buy for £300 but offer only for a month. ok so i bought for £280-140+300=£440 seems a lot for a premium (*working is optional) unless ive got my maths all wrong?
Old 21 August 2007, 05:11 PM
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RE purchasing the came code online...


Never again....

I purchased Guildwars via play.com... (us code site)

Cost me £39.00 no discounts, despite the rrp being lower in the shops..


(I asked for a hardcopy manual, as there waas quite a bit of key malarkery i was missing)


you get no manuals, sod all (sorry, very little support) from the supposed game guru's, instead they encourage you to ask players online for help

contrast my nipper paid £9.99 for the deluxe pack, gets a full manual set, increased spells, etc and a host of extras...

Ive stoped at level 13..he,s finished the game and bought the next campaign deluxe pack (bit more expensive though)


I used to spend appox £10-20 per week on games when consoles & home computers came out... (about 1-2 games per week)

if i were to do this today, i,d be looking at approx £100..

at 10-20 per game, i can afford a random punt, at £40-50 per game it has to be exeptional....

After all the SW house makes its money on the sale to the dealer/distributer.. its the marks ups by the third parts that add up


Mart
Old 21 August 2007, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
How it is a gamble? If you are confident of selling the game at £39.99 - why on earth wouldn't you be confident at £29.99 or £19.99?
Because you are cutting your profits in half, and there's no garauntee that you'll sell twice as many to make up the difference. Of course you may end up making more money, but on the other hand you may not. When you have a known stable market, why rock the boat. I'm not saying it's right, I just suspect that's the mentality...
Old 21 August 2007, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360

I used to spend appox £10-20 per week on games when consoles & home computers came out... (about 1-2 games per week)

if i were to do this today, i,d be looking at approx £100..



Mart
you should be earning more now to compensate ?
Old 21 August 2007, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
you should be earning more now to compensate ?
but possibly with bills and mortgage to pay?
Old 21 August 2007, 07:57 PM
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Lad at work phoned up Gamestation and pre ordered it after playing the demo. Hes also booked Friday afternoon off to play it!

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Anyone checked out the widescreen issue ?
http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4883
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Originally Posted by spectrum48k
Anyone checked out the widescreen issue ?
Widescreen messed up ... - 2K Forums
39 fecking pages
Old 22 August 2007, 10:55 AM
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but most of it was whiners & whiners whining about the whiners & saying when 2K should have their holiday...was worse than nsr...
Old 23 August 2007, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by spectrum48k
Anyone checked out the widescreen issue ?
Widescreen messed up ... - 2K Forums
Do you mean for PC?

Check the overclockers thread in PC Games re:Bioshock. There are specially enhanced graphics drivers for Bioshock. There is a way to alter the screen to allow better widescreen format.

Theres also an issue regarding AA under DX9.

I got my copy of PC today and my GF is working late tonight WOOHOO
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Tried the demo on my PC, Jus Canne Handle it!
Old 23 August 2007, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Neanderthal
Tried the demo on my PC, Jus Canne Handle it!
At least playing in on the 360 you'll get the points
Old 23 August 2007, 04:37 PM
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we have a contract with a local games sellers business to clean the cars and i think my boss "sticky" has rang them up for a copy

doubt i will see him tomorrow now
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So anyone been playing the game then (Either 360 or PC)

Got as far as Neptunes Bounty. Trying to go over every inch to find every little item lying around. Decided on my first walk through I'd be the good guy to the little sisters - couldn't bring my self to harvest the ADAM. (Plus the Mrs was watching the screen and said "Don't you dare!")
Old 24 August 2007, 09:54 AM
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Got it yesterday, but not had time to play it yet
Old 24 August 2007, 10:44 AM
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this is going to run and run...
BioShock is "testing the limits of the ultraviolent gaming genre with a strategy that enables players to kill characters resembling young girls."
Would you kill ‘Little Sisters’? Quincy company challenges taboos with game violence
Old 24 August 2007, 10:54 AM
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I killed little girls and their teddybear in the suffering on the xbox, and set fire to the bitches, it was them or me
Old 24 August 2007, 11:18 AM
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I've just got to the point in Neptunes Bounty where I have to take 3 photographs of those Spider Zombie Mutated things... Trouble is each time I get the camera out and line up the shot they either move or bloody attack me.....
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Originally Posted by Mogsi
I've just got to the point in Neptunes Bounty where I have to take 3 photographs of those Spider Zombie Mutated things... Trouble is each time I get the camera out and line up the shot they either move or bloody attack me.....
Can you not kill them first then take the shot ?
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Originally Posted by bob269
I killed little girls and their teddybear in the suffering on the xbox, and set fire to the bitches, it was them or me


I murdered a teddy bear in "Ah Diddums", circa '83
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Originally Posted by spectrum48k
this is going to run and run...
BioShock is "testing the limits of the ultraviolent gaming genre with a strategy that enables players to kill characters resembling young girls."
Would you kill ‘Little Sisters’? Quincy company challenges taboos with game violence
You don't have to kill them. You get more ADAM but your behaviour towards them affects the storyline. However, I do understand the morality of it all.

The gaming community seems much more concerned about an issue with the number of times you can install the game. Apparently you can only do it twice. The game puts something undeletable onto the HD. Big uproar on t'internet.

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Originally Posted by bob269
Can you not kill them first then take the shot ?
No unfortunately not, pictures of dead bodies don't count....
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Originally Posted by EddScott
The gaming community seems much more concerned about an issue with the number of times you can install the game. Apparently you can only do it twice. The game puts something undeletable onto the HD. Big uproar on t'internet.
Its a DRM which allows 3 installs. As per usual the industry is penalising the paying public, as anybody who wants to pirate it will simply download the DRM free pirate version which is already on the net and can install it as they wish, whereas the genuine people who wish to pay for it get hit with restrictions.

There are a number of people of the 2k forums which have stated cancelling their pre-orders because of this.
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That install thing is really dodgy. Glad I got the 360 version instead, (even though my pc can play it with ease). I've about completely given up on pc gaming these days...
Old 24 August 2007, 09:01 PM
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what difficulty are people playing on? i figured i would go for the medium but had my **** kicked when loads of splicers came flying into the room when i opened some emergency door thing
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I'm on medium. Think I know where you mean. I found in the first area Splicers went down best with electro-shock when they are in water. Zap the water, they flid out and just run up and **** them repeatedly with the wrench.

I'm also freeing every little sister before moving on to the next area.
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the only little sister i ever saw was the first one when she is introduced by the bloke on the radio (ie: the demo one)

the part where i got killed i dont think there was any water, its the party where the bloke on the radio says "ohh you have rattled the cage now"

i ended up running out of bullets for the guns
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Be carefull with the PC version of this

Some Dude Says: BioShock Killed My Computer - Kotaku

How good is BioShock? Quote: "THE GAME WAS SO FACE MELTINGLY AWESOME IT BLEW UP MY COMPUTER." Yes, it's that good.


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