new RBF600 fluid in mine today

most brake fade is the fluid boiling rather than the pads

Cookstar - were those discs drilled?
If so that is why they cracked - drilled discs are more of a show and shine thing

 

RBF600 is the nuts Dunc.. you'll be suprised at the change in feel afterwards.
Although the stuff that came out was pretty minging lol... i think that had alot to do with it too

 

been running rbf600 for a while now - it is good stuff. Just got some fresh stuff going in

 

changed mine before WRC last year to RBF600.. about time for a change too... must change the oil, G/B oil and B/F again....

 

Dont forget to keep me posted on the PF discs..

 

No mate, no show discs, just EBC non drilled non grooved discs, they were installed just before The ring trip last year (along with my gearbox )

Also had yellow stuff pads fitted, that have only just been replaced, so the discs lasted through one set of pads and thats it

 

About £30 from EBAY

 

Given Frayz' comments and thinking of the extra weight I'll give them a miss

 

Ahh a tenner for some fluid and £20 buys you a lap of the ring and a coffee from the restaraunt

Money well spent

 

How DO you actually change the brake fluid.

Also whats involved with the bleeding of new fluid.

I have never done anything like this, due to the importance of getting it right first time

 

Group buy on Frayz changing our fluids (ooh er )

 

pmsl

 

I can tell you but in your case id take it somewhere to avoid certain death if you funk it up.. pmsl

lol

Its easy mate,

Use a seringe to remove as much of the old fluid from the reservoir as possible.

Top up with new fresh fluid. Then working from back to front ie do the rears first.

Place a transparant hose over the bleed nipple on the caliper that drains into a container (small coke bollte works fine), then get someone else to pump the pedal down as you crack the nipple off with a ring spanner, then nip it up and let them release the brake pedal.

Keep doing this.. the idea being that the nipple is only open when under pressure. Continue this step until the fluid coming out is clean and free of any air bubbles.

Top up with new fliud as the level drops in the reservoir.

Repeat this step for the rears and then the fronts.

Ensure you top up the levels when finished and have a nice firm pedal feel.

Clean any spillages with cold water imediately

 

Does it not matter that the new fluid will mix with the small amount left in the res'

Also if i was to remove callipes, say to change them, is the process the same

 

No it doenst matter if a small amount mixes as the idea being that if you follow the correct procedure the little bit of old fluid will be flushed out when bleeding.

Removal of the calipers is fine and yes the procedure is the same. It will take a little longer and you will use more fluid when bleeding after a caliper change as there will be more air in the system... but essentially its the same.

Also ensure to cap off any hoses or fluid ways when removed to ensure no contamination of the system.

 

Good stuff.

And maybe thinking of installing my big brake kit when i finally decide which one,

 

That reminds me......still got my braided hoses to go on!

 

Performance Friction Discs and Performance Friction z rated Pads are now on the car thanks to Gary and Chris at AP Tuning (APT - Performance tuning specialists in Norwich - With Dyno Dynamics Rolling Road) . Zen Performance supplied the discs/pads. ( Zen Performance - Performance upgrade solutions for Japanese cars ) They make it look really simple to undo the caliper bolts..... I must have loosened them





Sorry the pics are a bit blurry - camera phone


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First Impressions:

First junction... where's my f**king brakes !!!
But no probs - changing all pads and front discs takes a while to bed in.

The drive through the narrow lanes down to Snetterton were fun and each time the brakes were used they started to get better - obviously wearing the gloss off the discs and the bedding them in.

There is a proper bedding in procedure that I will be following today to get them working beautifully. They dont work as well cold as the ferodo ds2500 but I am fine with that, and after a couple of applications will be at the same levels of friction. I have been told that they will work great hot too - will have to give them a good try out at Snetterton in feb (if not before )

 

They look big, are they the standard size?

 

yep

proper brakes - AP 6 pot or 4 pot not required as yet.... these will be more than up to the job I reckon for my track work

 

I'm sure you'll push them brembo's to the limit!!!!!

I still need to decide what pads to run as my track pads..... decisions, decisiosn

 

pagid orange

 

You'd recommend these then?

 

nice colour

I havent run them Mike lol

 

seriously though, the RS-19 comes highly recommended for lots of track work or the RS4-4 (orange)

 

I like pagids i must admit..... i will make a few calls and see what i can find!

 

Zak's changing mine next week along with a 40K service, but interestingly, I've just gone back through my previous service invoices to see how long it was since my last fluid change and I can't see this EVER being changed before - if it has, I don't seem to have been charged for any fluid........