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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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just found this interesting fact...

Kiel Simpson, the owner of the Pit Bull could be charged under the Dangerous Dogs Act for having the Pit Bull but not over Ellie's death, as the Act EXCLUDES dog attacks at home

and i didnt know this.............dogs need only have the characteristics of a banned type and need not be pure bred.....
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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did you see the pictures of the uncle in the paper today,

wasnt he a well dressed individual, showing some decency for what had happened?


A poxy tracksuit, sad to say, the more you seeof this sad state of affairs, the more you know the inevitable excuses are going to come pouring out of the woodwork.


And possibly the most galling thing. He'll prolly walk with a fine


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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
did you see the pictures of the uncle in the paper today,

wasnt he a well dressed individual, showing some decency for what had happened?


A poxy tracksuit, sad to say, the more you seeof this sad state of affairs, the more you know the inevitable excuses are going to come pouring out of the woodwork.


And possibly the most galling thing. He'll prolly walk with a fine


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Also - Did you cop the "Swagger" he walked with !! Unbelievable !!
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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A tribute site has been set up for codoloncies for Ellie

Ellie Lawrenson - My site

and the 'uncle'

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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxcraig
But the rel thing that gets me is the way ppl react when they see a 12 stone rotti walking towards them and **** them selfs due to what they heard about them on tv.
Yes, it's not intimidating at all to have a 12 stone animal with a bear trap where its face should be occupying half the pavement.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by *Sonic*
A tribute site has been set up for codoloncies for Ellie

Ellie Lawrenson - My site

and the 'uncle'

it wouldnt suprise me if he says he had the dog because he got picked on got being a ginger nut
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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LOL, I thought he had a look of Chaos/Audiboy about him

he got the dog to guard his drugs

Maybe Ellie found his stash, the police are continuing searching the house, so lets hope they find his stash of drugs, and not just 20kg of canabis this time
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
LOL

Jasey, stop over dramatising. IIRC that pic is from a film?

One of our two has a bit of a frothing issue, like Hooch in the movie with tom hanks, if he's beintg trainied with treats. Not pleasant, granted, but not dangerous

Add in a bark and you can replicate that picture with ease. As with any dog.

Christ, my missus snarls better than that if i come in pished...
Sorry Diabbers - but the boy saying that people who are "scared" of 12 stone dogs had something wrong with them was asking for it .

Many people - and I mean many people - have been attacked by all sorts of dogs. If you were snapped at by a jack russel when you were younger it's perfectly natural to be wary of 2 x 12 stone dogs being accompanied by someone who would struggle to control a three year old child.

As I said - I fear no dog - and they know it. My wife - who's brother had his face bitten by a collie - is more wary of all dogs - especially big *******.

It doesn't make her weak !

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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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a) I want a cuddle
b) Your leg looks tasty
c) **** I'm hungry
d) One move and I'll Have you
e) Feeling lucky punk
f) Throw my ball please
g) I just want to be loved
h) I'm busting for a ****
i) I'm knackered

Now I reckon this dog could be thinking any of these things . Some would concern me !
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Spring Heeled Jack
To me, that sums up the mentality of the dangerous dog owner nicely. 'Hard' men who get their kicks using their beasts to intimidate other people.

The sooner these breeds are stamped out and the owners condemned for what they really are the better.
Dude - that comment was very much tounge in cheek. Please take it in context with the rest of my post.

Why would I discuss lengths I would have to go to to avoid the prejudice and then go down the "hard man route". Anyone who has met me will vouch for the fact that is not my style.

Jees, some people have no sense of humor these days .
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
Dude - that comment was very much tounge in cheek. Please take it in context with the rest of my post.

Why would I discuss lengths I would have to go to to avoid the prejudice and then go down the "hard man route". Anyone who has met me will vouch for the fact that is not my style.

Jees, some people have no sense of humor these days .
How's the wife's X5
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Yes, it's not intimidating at all to have a 12 stone animal with a bear trap where its face should be occupying half the pavement.
Bubba, very, very few Rottweilers will be anywhere near 12 stone, btw. Our two are 5 (bitch) and 7 (dog) fully grown.

I guess we must be lucky in that prejuduce aside, most reasonable people we meet don't automatically assume "intimidation" and simply see a couple out walking two happy, sociable dogs.

Maybe its where we live, or maybe its just that most of urban England is so full of undesirables and has gone to **** that many of you just automatically assume the worst?
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jasey
How's the wife's X5


Still on the "potentials" list.

Thinking more X3 or Nissan Pathfinder tbh. Damn sight cheaper

Your wife has good reason to be wary. BTW, there are a number of dogs I dont trust and collies are one of them.

I have no issues with people being wary, Jasey, its an individuals right.

What I do object to is unfounded prejudice resulting in my wife receiving completely unjustified verbal abuse from people who really should know better.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jasey


a) I want a cuddle
b) Your leg looks tasty
c) **** I'm hungry
d) One move and I'll Have you
e) Feeling lucky punk
f) Throw my ball please
g) I just want to be loved
h) I'm busting for a ****
i) I'm knackered

Now I reckon this dog could be thinking any of these things . Some would concern me !
Ears are up, and his expression is such that you can discount "b" and "d"
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
What I do object to is unfounded prejudice resulting in my wife receiving completely unjustified verbal abuse from people who really should know better.
That's the difference between your wife & me. If I had two rotties and someone was abusing me I'd set the dogs on them .

Of all the dogs I've ever met Rotties are probably the softest of the lot - and they make great wrestling partners - but you do have to let them win
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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8 Pitbulls have been seized this morning

6 of them from my town, thought to have been trained for fighting, they were seized following a tip off from local residents

It looks like all 6 were taken from the same premises too

and allegedly a 23 year old man has been to the police station in connection with Ellie's death, but not arrested
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Yep, a 23 year old convicted drug dealer, with ginger hair who wears a blue shell suit
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Terry Pratchett quote "Never trust a dog with ginger eyebrows"
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lozgti
Terry Pratchett quote "Never trust anything with ginger eyebrows"
Safer bet
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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"But the rel thing that gets me is the way ppl react when they see a 12 stone rotti walking towards them and **** them selfs due to what they heard about them on tv."

if it "gets to you" you are either under 23 or a ****. Why shouldnt people react to a large animal? and why is it there fault for basing their opinions on what they hear on TV?

If i walked up to you with a tiger would you be happy or would you **** your pants because of all those silly TV shows they say they eat people?

When someone avoids a dog your walking its time to look at yourself...not them.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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Keeps giving me goosebumps when I think of that poor little girl. Doesn't bear thinking about.

I could never begin to imagine the pain of losing a child like that

I would be devastated if anything happened to any of mine, let alone killed in a horrible way

R.I.P Ellie

Why people feel the need to train these animals for fighting etc is beyond me.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by *Sonic*
8 Pitbulls have been seized this morning
One chav brat dies and a load of innocent dogs get killed for it. Seems fair.
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The *chav brat* was five years old.

You can't judge a child for her parentage, or rest of the family.

She lost her life in a tragic way. The dogs are evil. The article says *siezed* not *killed*
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by *Sonic*
8 Pitbulls have been seized this morning

6 of them from my town, thought to have been trained for fighting, they were seized following a tip off from local residents

It looks like all 6 were taken from the same premises too

and allegedly a 23 year old man has been to the police station in connection with Ellie's death, but not arrested
apparently he will get off the hook as the Dangerous Dogs Act doesnt cover attacks in the home

or something like that
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
apparently he will get off the hook as the Dangerous Dogs Act doesnt cover attacks in the home

or something like that
Ridiculous

If it had attacked or killed the owner, fair enough - but a small child?..........
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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its a sad state of affairs
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mark engers
One chav brat dies and a load of innocent dogs get killed for it. Seems fair.
Ok Engers Sociogimp etc i'll bite

No one has said yet that these dogs will be destroyed

6 of the dogs seized look like they were from the same place, in a dog rough part of where I live (similar to beiruit) and where kept outside locked in cages, and the police suspect that these seized dogs were being trained to fight

So, no innocent dogs have or are going to get killed for it, seems fair
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Originally Posted by D.K.1
The *chav brat* was five years old.

You can't judge a child for her parentage, or rest of the family.

She lost her life in a tragic way. The dogs are evil. The article says *siezed* not *killed*
Of course they'll be killed. The pigs will use them as target practice.

Have you noticed that more and more animals that are on the loose are 'too dangerous to handle' and have to be shot at the scene.

In Florida you can call a bloke to come and remove a 12 foot alligator from your swimming pool alive and well.... here in the UK you need a pig SWAT team to riddle your family pet with bullets.

BBC NEWS | England | Runaway cow shot by police
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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These dogs arent pets they are status symbols!

Sooner they are outlawed and dealt with the better.
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