should Pitbulls be outlawed?
03 January 2007, 03:39 PM
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I agree with what shaggy said earlier about owners needing a licence type thing. Surprised no one has mention the woman who had a face transplant after her loving dog (think it was a labrador) bit her face off. A lot of the problems stem from the owners who would probably think nothing about giving their dogs a good beating which does nothing to help the dogs behaviour.
03 January 2007, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
I agree with what shaggy said earlier about owners needing a licence type thing. Surprised no one has mention the woman who had a face transplant after her loving dog (think it was a labrador) bit her face off. A lot of the problems stem from the owners who would probably think nothing about giving their dogs a good beating which does nothing to help the dogs behaviour.
03 January 2007, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mark engers
They ARE outlawed you dim witted, attention starved mongo.
Now it's time to also outlaw Staffordshire Bull Terriers and other such dogs that are effectively used as accessories, 'man bags' if you will, flaunted in order to make the owner seem hard in front of his peers.
Now it's time to also outlaw Staffordshire Bull Terriers and other such dogs that are effectively used as accessories, 'man bags' if you will, flaunted in order to make the owner seem hard in front of his peers.
I could put the simpleton on my ignore list but it's fun reading his trolling rhetoric 
The attention starved mongo line made me smile, then the next line was as clever as the warm stuff dog walkers keep in their pockets...
03 January 2007, 03:50 PM
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There's been a lot of chatter about this in the play ground this afternoon....
I overheard someone saying that he shouldn't have had that dog because he was supposed to have applied for a licence to own it and he didn't.
They were all saying what a rough family they are too.
The poor little girl didn't deserve what she got, despite the type of family she comes from.
Such a tragic way to die at such a young age too, in some respects, I hope it was quick so she didn't feel fear or pain before she died at the teeth of that creature
I overheard someone saying that he shouldn't have had that dog because he was supposed to have applied for a licence to own it and he didn't.
They were all saying what a rough family they are too.
The poor little girl didn't deserve what she got, despite the type of family she comes from.
Such a tragic way to die at such a young age too, in some respects, I hope it was quick so she didn't feel fear or pain before she died at the teeth of that creature
03 January 2007, 03:51 PM
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i have always truely beleaved that dogs react in the way that they have been brought up, ive grown up with dogs as my parents used to breed and show german sheppards, had a few rottis now, jack russells, and all have been great especially with us and our kids.
But the rel thing that gets me is the way ppl react when they see a 12 stone rotti walking towards them and **** them selfs due to what they heard about them on tv.
But the rel thing that gets me is the way ppl react when they see a 12 stone rotti walking towards them and **** them selfs due to what they heard about them on tv.
03 January 2007, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
I see the dogs owner has a conviction for drugs dealing,
i,m not going to say anymore
mart
i,m not going to say anymore
mart
I saw this morning that the uncle was a Convicted dealer,probably goes some way to explaining the behaviour of the dog.
03 January 2007, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
read up on why her dog did that. Actually saved her life.
03 January 2007, 04:14 PM
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you cannot bring in the need for licences for dog breeds because what would happen to all the current owners??? if there were idiots that were not able to obtain the licence then the country would end up with thousends of dogs being abandoned which would mean strays all over the place!!
03 January 2007, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
cant find anything on how the dog saved her life, only that it was put down
She had suffered her appalling injuries after she lost consciousness following an overdose of sleeping tablets, which she has now confirmed was an attempt on her own life. Her dog, which has been destroyed, is thought to have been trying to revive her.
03 January 2007, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by B9GLY
you cannot bring in the need for licences for dog breeds because what would happen to all the current owners??? if there were idiots that were not able to obtain the licence then the country would end up with thousends of dogs being abandoned which would mean strays all over the place!!
Tax the nutters out of Dog Ownership - **** me they're doing it to car owners
As for Strays - Shoot them !
03 January 2007, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxcraig
But the rel thing that gets me is the way ppl react when they see a 12 stone rotti walking towards them and **** them selfs due to what they heard about them on tv.
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03 January 2007, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
cheers for that, bloody yahoo search engine is cr@p
Most of the reports say she was mauled by her dog..... gives the story a different angle.
03 January 2007, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxcraig
i have always truely beleaved that dogs react in the way that they have been brought up, ive grown up with dogs as my parents used to breed and show german sheppards, had a few rottis now, jack russells, and all have been great especially with us and our kids.
But the rel thing that gets me is the way ppl react when they see a 12 stone rotti walking towards them and **** them selfs due to what they heard about them on tv.
But the rel thing that gets me is the way ppl react when they see a 12 stone rotti walking towards them and **** them selfs due to what they heard about them on tv.
Don't get me wrong - my wife gives me grief everytime I meet a dog because I'll stroke it so long as it doesn't look like fluffy above
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03 January 2007, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Not necessarily due to the media. A lot of people are scared of spiders FCS! Don't think that anyone will be mauled to death by a UK spider but people are still scared..... Some of their fear of dogs is definitely not rational BUT there is always the possibility that especially a large dog could hurt them. Put that together with a small child who a) knows no fear and b) is defenseless and you get a situation where all dogs should be muzzled/on a lead in public places and, IMHO, banned from homes where there are young children.
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Really doesn't help when daytime TV personalities come out on TV and in Print in newspaper colums calling for a ban on Rotties either.
People with genuine dog phobias will be scared of anything. I can guarantee you that if I dyed my dogs tan bits black and gave them tail extensions we wouldn't see one tenth of the adverse reactions we see to our two.
Still, on the plus side, its nice to have a clear pavement as people cross the road
03 January 2007, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
Yeah - I know what you mean - some people ehh
Don't get me wrong - my wife gives me grief everytime I meet a dog because I'll stroke it so long as it doesn't look like fluffy above.
Don't get me wrong - my wife gives me grief everytime I meet a dog because I'll stroke it so long as it doesn't look like fluffy above
.Jasey, stop over dramatising. IIRC that pic is from a film?
One of our two has a bit of a frothing issue, like Hooch in the movie with tom hanks, if he's beintg trainied with treats. Not pleasant, granted, but not dangerous
Add in a bark and you can replicate that picture with ease. As with any dog.
Christ, my missus snarls better than that if i come in pished...
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03 January 2007, 04:58 PM
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I reckon pitbull ownership is a bit like X5 ownership - there's an element of intimidation in it, whether the owners care to admit it, like Tiggs above, or not.
03 January 2007, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
I reckon pitbull ownership is a bit like X5 ownership - there's an element of intimidation in it, whether the owners care to admit it, like Tiggs above, or not.
At the end of the day, can there be any justification for having a dog that was originally bred to fight?
For the record, Rottweilers should be more correctly known as Blackforrest Cattle Dogs. Their history is in cattle herding.
I guess that collies just didn't hack it with half ton bulls
03 January 2007, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
People with genuine dog phobias will be scared of anything. I can guarantee you that if I dyed my dogs tan bits black and gave them tail extensions we wouldn't see one tenth of the adverse reactions we see to our two.
Still, on the plus side, its nice to have a clear pavement as people cross the road
Still, on the plus side, its nice to have a clear pavement as people cross the road
Am fine with 'em now tho,my reply to Tel's post up there is if I wanna drive an X5 and have a pitbull.I will,it's a free country.
03 January 2007, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
Still, on the plus side, its nice to have a clear pavement as people cross the road
The sooner these breeds are stamped out and the owners condemned for what they really are the better.
03 January 2007, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
Wouldn't disagree with that Tel.
At the end of the day, can there be any justification for having a dog that was originally bred to fight?
For the record, Rottweilers should be more correctly known as Blackforrest Cattle Dogs. Their history is in cattle herding.
I guess that collies just didn't hack it with half ton bulls
At the end of the day, can there be any justification for having a dog that was originally bred to fight?
For the record, Rottweilers should be more correctly known as Blackforrest Cattle Dogs. Their history is in cattle herding.
I guess that collies just didn't hack it with half ton bulls
03 January 2007, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by B9GLY
you cannot bring in the need for licences for dog breeds because what would happen to all the current owners??? if there were idiots that were not able to obtain the licence then the country would end up with thousends of dogs being abandoned which would mean strays all over the place!!
the acceptable Pit Bull breed has been destroyed. if you do some research you will see that the dog we see now is very far removed from what it is meant to be.
its sad really because they were once a trusted breed that had a job to do,like many other breeds, now the majority are bred to act like killing machines
i wouldnt trust one as you dont know what its parentage is and what it has been bred for, they all look cute and fluffy when they are young....
anyway, what is the point of owning one?
03 January 2007, 05:52 PM
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Another angle on the story of the little girl, I over heard a rant about the fact that this dog has attacked a few people and other dogs before now but the owner intimidated them into not reporting it, so they were too scared.
I have no idea if this is true or not, but it's what I overheard - again
It's a funny issiue (not funny haha)
If there needs to be a licence for these kinds of dogs, they should apply BEFORE getting the dog, and if get refused fair enough, get something else. If people HAVE to own this type of dog, they only people responsible and well able to handle them should have them. Not a good idea in the hands of some docile idiot who can't train them properly and are incapable of preventing attacks etc.
I have no idea if this is true or not, but it's what I overheard - again
It's a funny issiue (not funny haha)
If there needs to be a licence for these kinds of dogs, they should apply BEFORE getting the dog, and if get refused fair enough, get something else. If people HAVE to own this type of dog, they only people responsible and well able to handle them should have them. Not a good idea in the hands of some docile idiot who can't train them properly and are incapable of preventing attacks etc.
03 January 2007, 06:41 PM
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"reckon pitbull ownership is a bit like X5 ownership - there's an element of intimidation in it, whether the owners care to admit it, like Tiggs above, or not."
errr...is that Tiggs as in me? Dont think i have posted on this thread?
For the record - i have owned many English BT and a few staffies.....would never have another though as i cant see the point. Plenty of other dogs that offer the same benifits without the downsides.
errr...is that Tiggs as in me? Dont think i have posted on this thread?
For the record - i have owned many English BT and a few staffies.....would never have another though as i cant see the point. Plenty of other dogs that offer the same benifits without the downsides.
03 January 2007, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by The Snug Rhino
For the record - i have owned many English BT and a few staffies.....would never have another though as i cant see the point. Plenty of other dogs that offer the same benifits without the downsides.