VXR SOLE

But soooo slow the best RS focus would be nearly 30 seconds down on the vxr ring time, the focus st is 15 seconds down.

VXR SOLE

What is then cos i spent a long time making the right decision ?

VXR SOLE

Not the R32 pissed all over that, I will give you at the moment the 130i.

VXR SOLE

Its all new, and a new engine!

alloy

VXR sole, can i have the link from where you got the table of lap times please

davyboy

Just watched the lap in question.

A nice smooth lap it was indeed.



The ring had a track day today......and this turned up

VXR SOLE

This only refers to a very simple remap and an exhaust system to take the VXR to just short of 300bhp for as litttle as £1500. After that it gets a bit more expensive and parts have to be replaced mainly for cooling purposes the next stage is under trial and 340bhp is already being bandied about, as for getting the power down not a problem at 300 bhp after that it may well become a major problem which a quaiffe diff should help to solve.

alloy

now thats a vauxhall worth owning

davyboy

...I cant quite tell, but I think it's on air jacks....and that got to be a real party piece at a track day

I'd sooner have this.....

alloy

Me too 996 looks better than the 997 but whos caring about aesthetics in a car like that!!

VXR SOLE

Im willing to accept your apology if you cant come up with the answer.

alloy

Now i know why you wouldn't give me the link to your source for this information, because you just put the VXR in there, not very conclusive is it!?!?!?!

To find the real list MINUS the VXR entry go here http://forums.roadfly.com/forums/por...6690304-1.html

wrxseeker

iTrader: (1)

Has anyone on this thread read the test in Autocar ??

Basically in summary it says there is little to choose between the cars in outright performance but to quote "Throw it into corners and though it rolls more the WRX's pace is on another level"

I have no doubt the Astra is a quick powerful car and I like its looks, but from what they are saying it is hard work to extract that performance.

I can't comment as I havent driven a VXR but Autocar have tested them back to back, and all I can say is that they test a lot of cars so they might be quite good at it ... or not as the case may be !!

The VXR may be quicker around the ring driven by a professional but most people would probably be able to get more out of the WRX IMO.

alloy

Some interesting statistics

02 STI 185.31 bhp per weight
VXR 172.29 bhp per weight

Also just to **** on ya chips

8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Volkswagen Golf R32, 250 PS www.supercars.net

sgcooby

Oh dear. And i just thought it was VXRBOY that was dillusional. What happens when you buy a VXR?? Does the chip for your shoulder come free?

AudiLover

The new R32 is faster than te 130i...

Not what Ive read. I heard its the same engine as in the old astra coupe.

The focus ST. Perfect balance between the golf GTI and the VXR. Although the GTI will be worth twice as much as the vxr or ST ina bout 2-3 years.

Plus the new type r is out soon as is the new leon cupra r, new s3 and revised golf gti, new clio 197 and 207gti.

aussieVXR

sounds good mate im in Rotherhithe

lightwave693

only vauxhaul id even think about getting would be a monaro vxr untill then im sticking with my scooby wagon

aussieVXR

like i said before disregard any previous tests carried out by the press,
all where done with pre production cars and this one you have mentioned was riding on 19's and cdc, both dont give a good stable controlled ride on UK B-roads as does the standard 18's and lotus developed passive suspension, the 19's are great for track and motorway and have the looks but on your typical twisty b-roads they tend to bounce than grip, the cdc german suspension also becomes to firm and causes the VXR to again bounce rather than soak up hence the reason Lotus was called in to develop the chassie/suspension and recommend the 18's for UK spec which is best for handling and ride. The pre production models also were set up with a different map to our cars which have also been tweaked more so, this map also includes a change in the steering map and having backed to back a pre and production models there is a considerable difference in perfomance ride and handling, as we speak the pre prodiction models are being scrapped and 2 have been given to VXR tuners for tuning devolopment, many auto mags are retesting the VXR but this time in production form and long term testing so expect to see the VXR pop up again in group testing in the not to distant future.
The pre prod model and prod model really do feel like different cars.

Shane

aussieVXR

German Magazine Figures Sport Auto

At Hockenhiem short circuit , Astra 1 18.3 , Golf R32 1 18,4 and BMW 130i 1 19,8

Overall scrores BMW and Astra 42 out of 50 , Golf 36"

Chins

Dear me boys

Go away for a day and 8 pages!!

I confess to being a VXR owner, but with 9 Scoobies under my belt plus a few other cars I'd like to add my input

Apart from the inital 0-30 in the damp/wet, the VXR loses nothing to most of the Scoobies Ive owned. In the twisties I'm as quick in the VXR as any Scooby (please read evo when they tested identical models save the 4wd and in the twisties actually found the non 4wd car quicker

The VXR is a quick car and the chassis guys in UK format have got the car to feel like it pivots on the gearstick. Usually I'd say that was crap, but it isnt.

If vauxhall could change anything, it should be their PR department and the people that released the cars to the press. Basic schoolboy errors were made. Cars released with the wrong suspension, German set up etc.
Ive driven one of these badly set up cars and I understand why they got slated in the press, in comparison to my car it felt horrible. In fact it felt like the car had 100,000 miles on the clock not 7,000.

Can they deal with over 240bhp. I have to say in the past I would of said NO, but the VXR seems able to cope. Ive driven a car with at least 280bhp and it was a nice easy car to drive. Didnt sound as good as a Scooby, but it did pop at you when you came off the gas.

The VXR is easily the match of a std Scooby. Not sure it could cope against a well set up STI though, but at least the interior feels a touch nicer

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

'Lapping the ring'

You are all so ****......

VXR SOLE

AS HAS BEEN SAID IN PREVIOUS POSTS ALL JOURNO REPORTS ARE NOT WORTH READING AS THE CAR WAS NOT IN PRODUCTION AND THE RELEASE OF THE CAR DUE IN JULY DIDNT ACTUALLY HAPPEN UNTIL DECEMBER. ALL REPORTS WERE OF PRE PRODUCTION MOCK UPS

VXR SOLE

WELL THEN YOU ARE EASILY MISLED, ITS A COMPLETELY NEW ENGINE CHECK THE CODE FOR YOURSELF !!!

VXR SOLE

LOL

Senior_AP

Oh the irony.

AudiLover

when i see the name vxr sole I think of vxarsehole. I originally thought you were a scooby member who signed up again to take the ****.

Gutmann pug

I start a thread, go away for a day and what happens ..... It gets to 8 pages, thats what happens

Best have a goooooood read of it now.

Gary

Gutmann pug

Gotta love this quote You were doing ok with your comments till you mentioned a 20 yard wide, 1/4 mile piece of tar mac...... All respect now lost

Gary