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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 911
You are light on the gearbox, heavy on the FMIC, very light on the turbo up/down pipes (if twisted) and missing the RCM oil pump..

I've drawn the same list and the 400 x 400 gap to 550 x 500 is huge.
I added-up that the 400 x 450 ish route was a 6K ticket DIY using a Zen trans, or 5K using a 6 speeder...oopps forgot the clutch!

Hard work to justify, but great fun!

Graham
The RCMS oil pump is in the drawer with the Apexi Power FC and commander.
I already have the 6 speed it just need 4th gear fixing have already had a quote for this. The FMIC i want is an APS one so price is about right on that.
The price is for the garrett IHI hybrid turbo.

The twisted GT30R is £1300 for the turbo
£699 for uppipe and down pipe
and £410 for the Tial external waste gate.

It all depends on the results of next weekends exploritary engine strip down.
If the block is ok then I might still try and get to my 450 - 500 bhp mark using the EJ20 block. I already have the crank and rods. It beggining to look very very expenisve.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
First stumbling block is the price:

For all the bits i need circa £10K
2.5 Short Motor (inc f/pistons) £2,000.00
Head stud Engineering £233.83
ARP Head studs £292.58
Fuel Rails £146.88
SX Regulator £193.88
Fuel lines and Fittings £164.50
740cc Injectors £411.25
GT35 Hybrid Turbo £1,551.00
Turbo fitting kit £211.50
Inlet hose 76MM £254.98
APS FMIC £1,175.00
Clutch £470.00
gearbox (needs repairing) £600.00
remap £300.00
AP Brakes £1,559.01
Gaskets and seals £300

£9,864.39

If anyone can beat these prices please feel free to contact me
Get your name on the SX reg group buy and save yourself a few quid!
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Garrett GT30R is £1000 (inc vat) from ScoobyMania

I think the SM 'big core' front mount is around half the price of the APS unit too.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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If you're not in a rush, i'll have a 2.5 bottom end f/s later on in the year (summer time i think) and it'll cost you a lot less than £2000. It's only done around 10k and is being replaced with a 2.35. Also might be worth speaking to Andy Forrest with regards to turbo and mapping. Quite a sound genuine guy and knows his stuff. I know his name get's floated about all the time but i'm just going on past experience.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Andy mapped my 2.0. Top bloke he is too.

Why are you not happy with the 2.5? I'm still undecided that I am going down that route so I need to know now before its too late.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Going to build a 2.35 for reliability issues so the 2.5 will be sold off.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Playsatan
Met a guy down the pub who swore he could do it for that.

I'm already running apexi pfc so should just need a tweak.
Are you having a laugh?

So you're going from a 350bhp (ish) setup to 500hp, with loads of different stuff and you think it will only need a "tweak"? Granted that with the same MAF and injectors, (if you retain the same fuel pressure) the fuelling will not be a million miles off, but as the power goes up, the time required to get it right goes up too. If you are using Andy, make sure he knows EXACTLY what the score is, turning up with 500hp expectations out of the blue isn't exactly helpful.

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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
Are you having a laugh?

So you're going from a 350bhp (ish) setup to 500hp, with loads of different stuff and you think it will only need a "tweak"? Granted that with the same MAF and injectors, (if you retain the same fuel pressure) the fuelling will not be a million miles off, but as the power goes up, the time required to get it right goes up too. If you are using Andy, make sure he knows EXACTLY what the score is, turning up with 500hp expectations out of the blue isn't exactly helpful.

paul

Yes, I was joking about the pub bit (hence the smiley).

Don't worry Paul, I had a discussion with Andy regarding parts, suppliers, specs, expectations, etc, before I even made enquiries on the block availability. He knows EXACTLY what I'm after.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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I've just done an Axis stage 2 with a few extras, much cheaper even with duty and tax, than anything from the UK
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Type~~R, do you mind pm-ing me the cost? Looking at these options at the moment as well....
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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sorry mate i was away a few days, ill try an PM you the costs
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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sorry mate i was away a few days, ill try an PM you the costs
Much appreciated...
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Well I've gone down that route myself -

Stage 1: 98 V3 Type R 2.5L Crawford Block with all the bits
Pistons, pumps, FX Reg, 550 Injectors, Power Fc, Clutch and flywheel, VF34 - currently 340-350BHP

Stage 2: AP brakes and Alloys, suspension (undecided at the moment as I dont do track days at the mo)

Stage 3: Turbo - soon to be followed by new gearbox through necessity rather than need !

Prices - you can get them down alot by doing alot more leg work !!!

Only looking to run 400 or slightly more.....and more..............best tip find a well paid job
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Originally Posted by Type-R
Well I've gone down that route myself -

Stage 1: 98 V3 Type R 2.5L Crawford Block with all the bits
Pistons, pumps, FX Reg, 550 Injectors, Power Fc, Clutch and flywheel, VF34 - currently 340-350BHP

Stage 2: AP brakes and Alloys, suspension (undecided at the moment as I dont do track days at the mo)

Stage 3: Turbo - soon to be followed by new gearbox through necessity rather than need !

Prices - you can get them down alot by doing alot more leg work !!!

Only looking to run 400 or slightly more.....and more..............best tip find a well paid job

Already have one (£30 an hour) Would be easy to write Roger Clark Motorsport a cheque and tell them to get on with it but thats not the point is it.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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It is not the point at all!
DIY is far more interesting and revealing to us all.
Good on 'ya.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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it is the point when you don't know the difference between a screwdriver and a hammer

shall be keeping my eye on this thread
considering a 2.5 for mine
currently iro 350bhp MY00 UK on standard internals
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyDAZZA
it is the point when you don't know the difference between a screwdriver and a hammer

shall be keeping my eye on this thread
considering a 2.5 for mine
currently iro 350bhp MY00 UK on standard internals
Hey Dazza,

The project has started and am sticking with the 2.0L. Click back to projects and view the DIY 450BHP Classic thread
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