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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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If i was driving a standard WRX and i raced against a fully qualified ninja driving another standard WRX around the same track at the same time,who would win?
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky d
ESP ! Not me i'll stick with the scooby handling all day long.
i always feel in controll , even when i'm really pushing it through the twisties
Yeah I know. Its the only car I've ever owned where I actually feel comfortable pushing it quite hard through long sweeping bends. Clio was excellent but didn't soak the bumps up like the WRX. I'd really like A de cat and remap but it cost a fortune.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rich
yeah you are right .. the other 5k is to make it look good :P

Dude, you just need to sell your car.. I hear you can get good deals on Rovers these days!


For the record including buying my '02 WRX new, I have about 15k into a mid 12 second WRX.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by paulg1979
Yeah I know. Its the only car I've ever owned where I actually feel comfortable pushing it quite hard through long sweeping bends. Clio was excellent but didn't soak the bumps up like the WRX. I'd really like A de cat and remap but it cost a fortune.
Yeah i know the feeling , been saving for a while now and i'm not far off my new de-cat pipe , and then like you say a bit of remapping wouldnt go amiss too.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Yeah i know the feeling , been saving for a while now and i'm not far off my new de-cat pipe , and then like you say a bit of remapping wouldnt go amiss too.
I spoke to Andy Forrest and he seems to think its not a good idea driving your car De catted with no remap. He said its ok if you keep the revs down but he would recommend a remap as soon as possible.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by paulg1979
I spoke to Andy Forrest and he seems to think its not a good idea driving your car De catted with no remap. He said its ok if you keep the revs down but he would recommend a remap as soon as possible.
I better strart saving harder then cos when the mood is right and the roads are clear theres no such thing as low revs just pure FUN ! Thanks for the advice though i'll just have to be patient (a very hard thing to do )
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky d
I better strart saving harder then cos when the mood is right and the roads are clear theres no such thing as low revs just pure FUN ! Thanks for the advice though i'll just have to be patient (a very hard thing to do )
Yes I'm in the same boat. Can't wait.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BVM
Dude, you just need to sell your car.. I hear you can get good deals on Rovers these days!


For the record including buying my '02 WRX new, I have about 15k into a mid 12 second WRX.

yeah but I bet you paid bloody U.S prices

don't get me wrong I love the car and wouldn't swap for anything under 40k but on the other hand don't think the newage wrx is what a subaru is all about.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by paulg1979
I spoke to Andy Forrest and he seems to think its not a good idea driving your car De catted with no remap. He said its ok if you keep the revs down but he would recommend a remap as soon as possible.
Yep - full decat results in more boost, hence more air coming through, and without upping the fueling (remap) it's more likely to run lean - especially at higher revs.

In my opinion a standard WRX (bug-eye, blob-eye - makes no difference) is a quickish car but nothing special really in the affordable performance car arena these days. Problem is that so many other cars can give it a run for it's money when rolling. Cupra R's, Clio Cups, remapped VRS's, Civic Type R's and so on.

The best thing about the WRX is that it is operating so well within it's capabilities. If you bought a WRX you should understand the importance of 4WD. I bought my WRX always knowing I would be modifying it - and it is easy to extract power from these cars without spending a fortune. FWD cars cannot be tuned to 260-270bhp and retain the ability to put that power down as competently. There are few better base cars to buy for someone prepared to do a bit of tinkering.

Also regarding sideways action in a WRX. Yes as standard they do understeer heavily but this is safe and predictable. Your less likely to smash your car up with this setup. Sensible compromise to make for factory spec. Get a set of Eibach' and a Rear Anti-Roll bar and you will be able to enjoy controllable sideways action fairly easily.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rich
yeah but I bet you paid bloody U.S prices

don't get me wrong I love the car and wouldn't swap for anything under 40k but on the other hand don't think the newage wrx is what a subaru is all about.

Of course I did!

I dont think Subaru knows what the impreza is about these days. I swear if the new one is that ugly concept hatch thingy... I will buy an EVO!
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben WRX Bug-Eye
Yep - full decat results in more boost, hence more air coming through, and without upping the fueling (remap) it's more likely to run lean - especially at higher revs.

In my opinion a standard WRX (bug-eye, blob-eye - makes no difference) is a quickish car but nothing special really in the affordable performance car arena these days. Problem is that so many other cars can give it a run for it's money when rolling. Cupra R's, Clio Cups, remapped VRS's, Civic Type R's and so on.

The best thing about the WRX is that it is operating so well within it's capabilities. If you bought a WRX you should understand the importance of 4WD. I bought my WRX always knowing I would be modifying it - and it is easy to extract power from these cars without spending a fortune. FWD cars cannot be tuned to 260-270bhp and retain the ability to put that power down as competently. There are few better base cars to buy for someone prepared to do a bit of tinkering.

Also regarding sideways action in a WRX. Yes as standard they do understeer heavily but this is safe and predictable. Your less likely to smash your car up with this setup. Sensible compromise to make for factory spec. Get a set of Eibach' and a Rear Anti-Roll bar and you will be able to enjoy controllable sideways action fairly easily.
I would like eibachs. Does the WRX not look stupid when lowered?
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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I have Prodrive springs and Whiteline 3 way rear sway and I still dont try to drift my scoob. IMO drifting a scoob is like watching 10 clowns stuff themselves into a mini.. funny yes, but silly none the less.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by paulg1979
I would like eibachs. Does the WRX not look stupid when lowered?
Yes mate, Eibach's are without a doubt one of the very best initial mods to make. Doesn't make it look stupid IMHO, it removes that on stilts appearance.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BVM
I have Prodrive springs and Whiteline 3 way rear sway and I still dont try to drift my scoob. IMO drifting a scoob is like watching 10 clowns stuff themselves into a mini.. funny yes, but silly none the less.
I don't try and 'drift' mine either, but I do occassionally get it sideways.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben WRX Bug-Eye
Yes mate, Eibach's are without a doubt one of the very best initial mods to make. Doesn't make it look stupid IMHO, it removes that on stilts appearance.
Yeah I know what you mean mate. Showing everyone underneath your wheel arch isn't the best look in the world. Eibachs are a pretty resonable price too aren't they?
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by paulg1979
Yeah I know what you mean mate. Showing everyone underneath your wheel arch isn't the best look in the world. Eibachs are a pretty resonable price too aren't they?
400ish from somewhere reputable fitted with geometry. The geometry settings influence handling significantly as you might expect. Somewhere who knows what they are doing should be able to make it handle much more how you personally want it to.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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i would take the car down to powerstation ... geo, droplinks, anti roll bar and springs will honestly transfrom the car
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rich
i would take the car down to powerstation ... geo, droplinks, anti roll bar and springs will honestly transfrom the car
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rich
yeah you are right .. the other 5k is to make it look good :P
I was hoping no one would bring that up.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
You dont need £10k to make a WRX quick, Ive just spent maybe £4k, for 308bhp and 6-pot AP's and a little tweak of the suspension.

You dont have to go all out 400-500bhp for a fast car, Ive had my 04 WRX for a year now from standard to slightly modified, and its certainly quick as a road car, its only when you do Quarter miles and trackdays that you realsie there are other fast cars out there, But on the public roads, Ive never come across a car that I can say that was really really fast.
Agreed.

It you planned on spending 10k why not buy an STI. A better base to work from initially with stronger internals. It wouldnt be long before you reached the reliable limit when modding a WRX to the level you obviously want. Mind you with 10k to spend you could easily replace the gearbox etc but thats allready done for you with an STI therfore you could go even further on your 10k.

End of the day i wish i had 10k to spend on my WRX. Im limited to buying used parts of EBAY. Still fun though.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Agreed.

It you planned on spending 10k why not buy an STI. A better base to work from initially with stronger internals. It wouldnt be long before you reached the reliable limit when modding a WRX to the level you obviously want. Mind you with 10k to spend you could easily replace the gearbox etc but thats allready done for you with an STI therfore you could go even further on your 10k.

End of the day i wish i had 10k to spend on my WRX. Im limited to buying used parts of EBAY. Still fun though.
Wish I did buy a STi, But I didnt think I was going to spend loads of money on my WRX, When I test drove it, I thought that a nice exhaust and a set of wheels would be it, But in the end you put one thing on, then something else, and before you know it your that far down the line, you start to realise that Buying a STi would have been the smart move, but im stuck with my WRX now, and selling to buy a STi would be to much hassle.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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when i changed my WRX for my STI it was the best move i have made , the difference is huge , i would find it impossible to go back to the WRX now
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
Wish I did buy a STi, But I didnt think I was going to spend loads of money on my WRX, When I test drove it, I thought that a nice exhaust and a set of wheels would be it, But in the end you put one thing on, then something else, and before you know it your that far down the line, you start to realise that Buying a STi would have been the smart move, but im stuck with my WRX now, and selling to buy a STi would be to much hassle.

doh .. just what happened to me , plus the fact there was no STI's avaliable when I bought my wrx
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rich
doh .. just what happened to me , plus the fact there was no STI's avaliable when I bought my wrx
I know where your coming from but...

An STi equivalent of mine was about 3 grand more at the time I bought. Regardless of which version I got it was always going to end up lowered with the obligatory de-cat exhaust. Insuring a modified STi at the time was untenable.

I'm more than happy with my lowly WRX. With Eibach's, performance pads and discs, the exhaust etc it's not that slow . With a remap should easily keep up with standard STi's and still retain it's slightly lower running costs.

On the whole I am happy with my choice, but still getting the big-wing fitted asap though.
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