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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Huxley
You can just see his image now !!!
LOL!

So, my retarded friend, care to enlighten us on what you think may be the root causes of terrorism in the UK or are you going to do a runner now?
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CoobyS
LOL!

So, my retarded friend, care to enlighten us on what you think may be the root causes of terrorism in the UK or are you going to do a runner now?
Brain washed FCUKWITS




And for you information I'm not a ******* retard you troll

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Huxley
Brain washed FCUKWITS




And for you information I'm not a ******* retard you ******* troll
Let me ask you again: So, my retarded friend, care to enlighten us on what you think may be the root causes of terrorism in the UK or are you going to do a runner now?
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Huxley
Brain washed FCUKWITS

Perhaps we wouldn't of had the suicide bombings if the Fcukwits hadn't been brainwashed!!!




Anyway I will be back later as I have some work to do
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Huxley
Perhaps we wouldn't of had the suicide bombings if the Fcukwits hadn't been brainwashed!!!




Anyway I will be back later as I have some work to do
Take a chill pill for a second, dude. No one denies that the brainwashed fcukwits were the cause of the bombing. I am asking you to look one step further: why did they do it? Look at the world around you. I want terrorism to stop as much as the next man, but we can only stop it by addressing at the bedrock level. Stopping suicide attackers in the UK would not have prevented the bombs aimed at Brit tourists in other countries, like the bomb yesterday in Turkey.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CoobyS
Stopping suicide attackers in the UK would not have prevented the bombs aimed at Brit tourists in other countries, like the bomb yesterday in Turkey.
They say that was most likely a Kurdish separatist group. Aimed at destroying tourism rather than targeting Brits specifically.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CoobyS
Take a chill pill for a second, dude. No one denies that the brainwashed fcukwits were the cause of the bombing. I am asking you to look one step further: why did they do it? Look at the world around you. I want terrorism to stop as much as the next man, but we can only stop it by addressing at the bedrock level. Stopping suicide attackers in the UK would not have prevented the bombs aimed at Brit tourists in other countries, like the bomb yesterday in Turkey.
Religon it's all about each others bible bashing,if it wasn't for bible,Koran or any other faiths, Perhaps we would be at peace with each other????


Well that's my thoughts anyway
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Huxley
Religon it's all about each others bible bashing,if it wasn't for bible,Koran or any other faiths, Perhaps we would be at peace with each other????


Well that's my thoughts anyway
As an atheist, I somewhat agree with that. Far too many wars have been fought in the name of religion. However, I do wonder whether the US would have planned the following http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3333995.stm if the target was a fellow Christian country (or if the US was a Muslim country). I guess we'll never know, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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There seem to be a lot of student types camped out on these threads making a lot of assumptions and generally behaving like 'know it alls'.

Most off putting....

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin_Aimless
There seem to be a lot of student types camped out on these threads making a lot of assumptions and generally behaving like 'know it alls'.

Most off putting....

Excellent post, Holy Ghost, and very informative as to the topic of the terrorist attacks
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin_Aimless
There seem to be a lot of student types camped out on these threads making a lot of assumptions and generally behaving like 'know it alls'.

Most off putting....

People making assumptions from someone who says 'a lot of student types'. Nice one.

If you don't like something that's been said here then you can put your argument forward. It's very simple.

Some would rather the vitriol contributed by a few here go unchecked.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Huxley
Ha ha ha ha, the only good thing to come out of this thread! I am so sorry I started it.

Some good points from all sides after reading through it, looks like everybody pisses everybody else off, shocker!

People think different, and have different ideologies, none of them are hard and fast right or wrong and none is better than the other. When it all comes together it forms the only race there is, the human race. And that is the only thing that is unique.

Cheer up, thank god, jesus, allah, your mum, dad, your sofa - whatever. Be glad you are alive and live in a relatively peaceful country. Things could be worse and if everyone carries on like this then they will be.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
You really are an offensive piece of sh.it!

Anyone of you that defends Moses with this statement is really sh.itting on all your ancestors. Many of us have got relatives that fought in WW2 to save this country from becoming part of a totally white Third Reich, then in the post war years let immigrants in from their sh.ithole countries and gave them the chance to contribute and build better lives.
Kiwi that is very emotive. I don't really like your views and how you express them. You may have an asian wife, but that does not seem to have brought balance to what you say and how you say it. I may be misjudging your character, but I am only going on what I read here.

I have family that also fought in those wars of freedom etc.

Part of your second sentence is deeply offensive and incorrect. 'Allowing' immigrants into this country was not an act of charity. It was an economically expedient thing to do.

There was the creation of the NHS and huge expansion of the transport systems, and simply not enough people to run these. Immigrants were therefore 'invited', in large numbers to come here and work, which is exactly what they did.

At the time, Britain needed those immigrants more then they needed Britain.

Today, immigration is also a fact of life. If you need your economy to grow, you need workers, simple as that.

People are terrified of immigrants, due to the erosion of culture, or whatever, but its actually how places grow and develop. Simply look at the history of mankind and without immigration, we would simply have died out, it is the Human way.

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bigJoe
The appeasers and apologists still don’t get it, the liberation of Iraq and Afghanistan do not make the slightest difference to these people, they’d still be planning terrorist attacks without the war on terror – they just want an end to the western way of life – that’s it.

They use religious extremism to recruit and “justify” their acts – those who don’t follow their ideology are seen as legitimate targets, it doesn’t matter if you’re in the UK or Iraq they just want to kill.

This isn’t the making of the bloated, corrupt west, it’s the making of some muslim nutcases – how many more bombs must there be before the extremists are tackled once and for all, wherever they may be????
Bigjoe,

The Hawkish Mentality is a universal constant and alive and well on SN. But you will probably take that as a compliment.

If what you say is true then some people (Muslims) got out of bed one day and said to themselves "You know what, I HATE the West, for no reason, I loved it yesterday, but I hate them today, with a passion. Its just because they are there and having a whale of a time and I am tired of old re-runs of Top Of The Pops. I know, I'll blow myself up and take a few of the buggers with me - that'll teach them"

Are you REALLY saying that the above is true and that there is zero justification for them feeling as if Muslims are being persecuted, be it in Iraq, Afghanistan, or that the West has actually no hand in the way that the Muslim World is today, places like Saudi - the source of the 9/11 attackers by the way?

I'm not saying it is all the West's fault, please see one of my earlier posts in this thread. However WHY are they feeling that way?

In terms of why aren't we doing something about it, what is the invasion of Iraq/Afghanistan about then, if not to rid us of terrorists? The problem has undoubtedly got worse as there was no capture of OBL, the whole Guantanamo mess, at least tens of thousands of innocent, Muslim, civilians killed and not one batted eyelid, it seems.

Add to that a complete pack of lies around Iraq - actually it wasn't to rid us of terrorists, I think it was actually a terrorist recruitment drive and exaclty what OBL would have wanted. In the background, the nub of the issue, Israel/Palestine surprise surprise, is still not resolved, again exactly what certain vested interests would want.

And with attitudes like yours there will just be more and more people joining the terrorist ranks - well done.

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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 03:24 AM
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Finally managed to read through the whole of this post, believe me there's worse posts on other forums. There seems to be some learned people on here and some not so learned, some reasonable people and some borderline racists!

I personally feel that this government has taken the British people for mugs for too long....when I try to remember the last time they did something we were proud of....I cant! We need to be more questionning, we should demand transparence and proof. After all, its not unreasonable to ask that we are satisfied that we aren't being taken for a ride (which we are)

Neoconservatism is the new Nazism, It is already responsible for the death of many thousands of innnocent people in the last few years!

Things are going to get much much worse (like armageddon worse!) if and before they get any better, I doubt that even I at the age of 25, shall live to see them get better.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by moses
c;unt head, im enjoying freedom as a brit as u white brits r enjoying it all coz of my own hard work

so what is the problem, it means if im a darkie scot im not entitled to the freedom provided by my own fecking country scotland
Eh??? are you trying to play some sort of race card????

You are entitled to free speach - but not support terrorists
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:18 AM
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Part of your second sentence is deeply offensive and incorrect. 'Allowing' immigrants into this country was not an act of charity. It was an economically expedient thing to do.

There was the creation of the NHS and huge expansion of the transport systems, and simply not enough people to run these. Immigrants were therefore 'invited', in large numbers to come here and work, which is exactly what they did.
No more offensive than claiming that immigrants built this country into what it is today. It's the same as me saying that we (the west) gave the rest of the world the motorcar, television, internet etc etc and that all other countries shouls be grateful.

Kiwi that is very emotive. I don't really like your views and how you express them. You may have an asian wife, but that does not seem to have brought balance to what you say and how you say it. I may be misjudging your character
Interested to hear what you disagree with and why. OK, there are some heated replies but as I've explained in one post my views are fairly strong that terrorists and supporters are subhuman, people should treat each other with respect, particularly guests, and that organised religion causes problems.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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It has been now officially announced that the illegal attack on Iraq is a major cause of the terrorist attacks.

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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
It has been now officially announced that the illegal attack on Iraq is a major cause of the terrorist attacks.

Les
That's stretching the truth a bit isn't it? A research group has said that the invasion of Iraq has made Britain more vulnerable to attacks like the 7/7.
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