Floyd’s ‘economy’ Stage III
15 May 2005, 05:48 PM
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Who's that gorgeous hunk in the yellow shirt 
Great result for you mate, and reward for all that hard work.
Bob is a wizzard with the lap-top and has unleashed a torrent of power from my 2.5 He spent a full four hours on my car and two and a half of those hard driving. He's meticulous. I'll write it up when I'm confident the gearbox is going to stay in one piece.
Just been for a blast around my favourite roads and had to quickly adjust my braking points
Richard.
Great result for you mate, and reward for all that hard work.
Bob is a wizzard with the lap-top and has unleashed a torrent of power from my 2.5
He spent a full four hours on my car and two and a half of those hard driving. He's meticulous. I'll write it up when I'm confident the gearbox is going to stay in one piece.Just been for a blast around my favourite roads and had to quickly adjust my braking points
Richard.
15 May 2005, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd
Oh and it still gave me 280 miles to the tank!
The second time Andy mapped mine was in motorway and i found myself wondering the same thing. Cruising along being overtaken etc and then all of a sudden you're flat out in fourth at xxx mph going past everyone again... with wires hanging out of the exhaust.
16 May 2005, 08:47 AM
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I've resisted going out in it again over the w/e I want it to stay like this and only drive it now and then so that I don't get used to it very quickly, otherwise I'll want more as Tim predicts...
The fuel consumption will go down I'm sure but I thought it would have guzzled it during and after the mapping session.
F
I want it to stay like this and only drive it now and then so that I don't get used to it very quickly, otherwise I'll want more as Tim predicts...The fuel consumption will go down I'm sure but I thought it would have guzzled it during and after the mapping session.
F
16 May 2005, 12:46 PM
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Its nice when a project comes together. 
Are you thinking of attending the RR day later this month @ PS?
It really does feel like a different car with th TD05...3 heavyweight Autobahn stormers didnt know what hit em last night when they got 'Scoobied' on the m/way. Reached the speedos limit rather quickly without realising
You put the hard work in and now you get to enjoy it
Bob
Are you thinking of attending the RR day later this month @ PS?
It really does feel like a different car with th TD05...3 heavyweight Autobahn stormers didnt know what hit em last night when they got 'Scoobied' on the m/way. Reached the speedos limit rather quickly without realising
You put the hard work in and now you get to enjoy it
Bob
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16 May 2005, 05:29 PM
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\m/ ^_^ \m/
the WRC system hangs under the diff on mine, grounds the car out if you drop the wheels into the rollers 
course, i didn't realise this till the car was being reversed onto them 
course, i didn't realise this till the car was being reversed onto them
17 May 2005, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Floyd
I didn't ask! I wasn't aware that I could 
I did ask for a guesstimate but that's all it is until I RR it.
F
I did ask for a guesstimate but that's all it is until I RR it.F
17 May 2005, 09:52 AM
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I didn't do a 1800rpm - flat out. So I guess that he didn't delta dash it. I'll fire off an email to him just in case he did something though.
Bob, its tempting. I'll ask my 'partner in crime' (the yellow shirted chap) if he's interested too.
F
Bob, its tempting. I'll ask my 'partner in crime' (the yellow shirted chap) if he's interested too.
F
17 May 2005, 12:15 PM
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I didn't know about the Delta Dash thing, and no I didn't do an 1,800rpm to redline squirt. But I did ask bob for some estimated figures, which I've published here. They're only a guess, but I trust Bob's judgement (more than most dynos 
) and I know he would not exagerate merely to flatter.
F, you mean Power Station? I'd prefer PE for some strange reason but would also like to talk suspension with the guys at PS.
Richard.
) and I know he would not exagerate merely to flatter.F, you mean Power Station? I'd prefer PE for some strange reason
but would also like to talk suspension with the guys at PS.Richard.
20 May 2005, 01:26 PM
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Right then, I've booked a session at PS on the RR day (28th) so we'll see what's what, as they say. Hoppy will be there too
How do PS figures compare with PE these days, now that they have moved location? is there still a 15 - 20BHP difference?
F
How do PS figures compare with PE these days, now that they have moved location? is there still a 15 - 20BHP difference?
F
28 May 2005, 04:35 PM
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The Result...
Thanks to Andy (Fuzz) for organising the day and Bob Iles for letting me push in
Well, I didn't know what to expect. I had an idea that the car feels quick so must be in the late 200's. My goal was 300 of course but you never can tell.
The print out:
It's a bit low on torque but its such a flat delivery that I never feel short changed. The graph shows pictorially how it drives on the road. A stab on the throttle gives a one second pause before it feels like a giant hand has got hold of my rear bumper and flung me up the road.
So 333BHP it is I'm quite happy with this result and I think I did well in comparison to the other cars that were there (see Midlands section for all results). Bob Rawl, you're a star - the map is spot on.
Approximately £16/BHP! DIY power rules
Thanks also to contirbuters and suppliers of parts, secondhand and new as well as hints, tips and input from the chaps on Projects and SN/22B.
F
PS If I changed my stock headers for Gruppe S and added a 3inch exhaust and perhaps a TD05 20g... Oh dear here we go!
Well, I didn't know what to expect. I had an idea that the car feels quick so must be in the late 200's. My goal was 300 of course but you never can tell.
The print out:
It's a bit low on torque but its such a flat delivery that I never feel short changed. The graph shows pictorially how it drives on the road. A stab on the throttle gives a one second pause before it feels like a giant hand has got hold of my rear bumper and flung me up the road.
So 333BHP it is
I'm quite happy with this result and I think I did well in comparison to the other cars that were there (see Midlands section for all results). Bob Rawl, you're a star - the map is spot on.Approximately £16/BHP! DIY power rules
Thanks also to contirbuters and suppliers of parts, secondhand and new as well as hints, tips and input from the chaps on Projects and SN/22B.
F
PS If I changed my stock headers for Gruppe S and added a 3inch exhaust and perhaps a TD05 20g... Oh dear here we go!
28 May 2005, 04:38 PM
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I forgot to say that on the way home a Clio 182 caught up with me in some traffic. I've not had such an enjoyable blast in a long time - thanks who ever you are.
Those Clios are mighty quick and I'm sure if I had a std Scoob I would have been monstered As it was I could pull away with ease but they still suprised me just how fast they were.
F
Those Clios are mighty quick
and I'm sure if I had a std Scoob I would have been monstered As it was I could pull away with ease but they still suprised me just how fast they were.F
28 May 2005, 06:20 PM
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Agree those Clio's ARE very fast. Had a similar experience to you not long after the RR @ 407 bhp, turbo lag really show up under 'surprise' circumstances...
The headers/TD05 20g with push it along yet again, that's about another £1000+ though you all seem to find deals where I cant
Great result on the RR, just get ready to scratch the itch for 400 x ???
Graham.
The headers/TD05 20g with push it along yet again, that's about another £1000+ though you all seem to find deals where I cant
Great result on the RR, just get ready to scratch the itch for 400 x ???
Graham.
29 May 2005, 02:32 AM
#236
good result Floyd. All the hard work paid off. Bet it feels great. Just need to get it on the blackstuff now.
btw, why are the transmission losses so high ? Is that normal? What was the torque reading in lbs? Boost level?
Enjoy!
Bob
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29 May 2005, 11:40 PM
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Looks like we need to raise the rev limit !!! Don't worry about the torque, due to the relatively slow run up PS torque figs are always like that, what impressed me about the car when mapping it was genuinely what you see, good flat torque curve and pulls forever, whatever the numbers are the curve shape's replicate what its like for real, Floyd I think I mentioned at the time your car has one of the best balanced mod packages I have ever come across, turbo porting was spot on. It was a pleasure to map it. We had a couple of "picky" areas but seems it ended up pretty good.
cheers
bob
cheers
bob