Notices
Projects For Serious DIY Car Projects

Floyd’s ‘economy’ Stage III

Old 05 April 2009, 08:30 PM
  #511  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

I blacked the lettering to make it easier to check the levels:
Name:  Canon250.jpg
Views: 0
Size:  55.2 KB
Old 05 April 2009, 08:34 PM
  #512  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

As I was still not 100% happy with the heat mod I invented for the coolant reservoir, I went a stage further and created a shield to go around it:
Name:  Canon240.jpg
Views: 0
Size:  99.0 KB
This has some lagging on the inside:
Name:  Canon239.jpg
Views: 0
Size:  121.1 KB
And it fits like this:
Name:  Canon245.jpg
Views: 0
Size:  102.8 KB
Name:  Canon246.jpg
Views: 0
Size:  112.5 KB
The finshed set up:
Name:  Canon253.jpg
Views: 0
Size:  122.7 KB
Old 05 April 2009, 08:42 PM
  #513  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

What next? Suspension tweaks, small battery, lose the airbags and rear door cards, new steering wheel, new lighter bucket seats and fit alloy bonnet.
Old 06 April 2009, 09:13 AM
  #514  
olliecampbell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
olliecampbell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: AL4 | W1B
Posts: 2,699
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I like that heat mod. What's the material on the inside?
Old 07 April 2009, 10:11 PM
  #515  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

It's exhaust heat wrap. It works quite well at reducing heat transfer from the tank to the inlet manifold and the inlet pipe.
Old 08 April 2009, 09:21 AM
  #516  
olliecampbell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
olliecampbell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: AL4 | W1B
Posts: 2,699
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Excellent stuff. Love this thread, all the little bit of detail you put into it...
Old 21 April 2009, 10:13 PM
  #517  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Thanks Ollie.

I changed the oil tonight and the new Subaru filters are even smaller than the small filters that replace the original big one's! I hope they're OK?...

I've started removing the stereo stuff, serviced the front A/R and associated rose joints.

My quest to remove stuff has pointed me towards performing a radiator fan cowelectomy. As it happens I think there is, at best, 0.5kg in removing metal from the fan cowls. The real weight is in the dual fans and they feel like 5kg's a piece. So, can these be replaced with Kenlow lightweight jobbies? The originals a 3 wire though...
Old 21 April 2009, 11:09 PM
  #518  
Tim W
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Tim W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Posts: 2,852
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

You can indeed replace them, pair of Spall fans would be my choice.

I have my two wire Spall's connected to the stock three wire set up, can't remember which ones I spliced together off the top of my head though
Old 22 April 2009, 08:56 AM
  #519  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

So what are the 3 wires for?
Old 22 April 2009, 10:58 AM
  #520  
p1doc
Scooby Regular
 
p1doc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,034
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Floyd
I forgot to mention that I picked up an Alloy Facelift bonnet from Ebay recently, so now the slippery slope to weight loss has begun. On the list is a small battery, steering wheel and seats.

Although I'll remove the tar pads on the floor and air bags, the car will still remain streetable as I will panel off the boot and replace the carpet. I may lose the rear door locks and rear electric windows too... All the seat belts except the drivers side will go to.
why not remove the driver's seat belt..lol looking good i see you are looking at lightweight batteries-lightened glass/plexiglass next??
martin
Old 22 April 2009, 01:51 PM
  #521  
olliecampbell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
olliecampbell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: AL4 | W1B
Posts: 2,699
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Floyd
So what are the 3 wires for?

Probably + / - and a speed sensing wire...at least that's what 3-wire computer fans are!

I'm such a geek sometimes!
Old 22 April 2009, 09:02 PM
  #522  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by p1doc
why not remove the driver's seat belt..lol looking good i see you are looking at lightweight batteries-lightened glass/plexiglass next??
martin
Because on the road it's easier to use a 3 point belt - it's quick plus have you ever tried to use toll booths, see out of junctions etc with a harness. lol

Plastic windows isn't straightforward due to frameless windows
Old 22 April 2009, 09:09 PM
  #523  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by olliecampbell
Probably + / - and a speed sensing wire...at least that's what 3-wire computer fans are!

I'm such a geek sometimes!
Thanks. As it happens the fans only weigh 1.2KGs each so it's not worth the cost of replacing with anything else. The shroud weight loss has begun and it'll save a paltry 0.5kg for both shrouds I have to do it though
Old 23 April 2009, 11:23 AM
  #524  
olliecampbell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
olliecampbell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: AL4 | W1B
Posts: 2,699
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Urrm right, what can I think of...

How standard are you looking to keep the car on the inside?
Old 24 April 2009, 10:49 PM
  #525  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Good question! It won't be full on track car as the carpets and trim will stay. The tar pads will go where easily accessible and the dash will stay. The airbags will go as they aren't required with harness. A/C to stay - if you've had to wait 20 mins to get off the Ring in the middle of summer, you'll agree to this
Old 27 April 2009, 12:39 PM
  #526  
olliecampbell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
olliecampbell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: AL4 | W1B
Posts: 2,699
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hmm good one

Just thinking through things:
Rear seats
Stereo and accompanying bits
Electric window motors (maybe leave the drivers one in?)
Spare tyre
Boot trim
Left foot rest
Floor mats

Not sure what else!
Old 27 April 2009, 01:28 PM
  #527  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

I have a long list of potential stuff to junk that will still mean the car remains civilised. Rear window motors and central locking will go. Spare whell has been replaced by a tin of foam stuff and therefore the jack has gone too. ECU to be moved to under passenger side dash and heavy plate to go.
Old 28 April 2009, 11:21 AM
  #528  
olliecampbell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
olliecampbell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: AL4 | W1B
Posts: 2,699
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Floyd
...ECU to be moved to under passenger side dash and heavy plate to go.
Good idea! Hadn't thought of that.

Remove one wiper?
Rain gutters...
Old 28 April 2009, 01:10 PM
  #529  
Carl Davey
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Carl Davey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 2,787
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Floyd, i pulled my airbag sensors, brain and wiring out a couple of weeks ago (the steering wheel went over a year ago). I put everything i removed in a poly bag and it weighed in at nearly 2kg.

I removed my stereo a while back but haven't got round to whipping out the speakers yet.
Old 28 April 2009, 10:07 PM
  #530  
jameswrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
jameswrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kent
Posts: 6,535
Received 40 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

Have you got a jdm bonnet? (probably have if you're getting that serious about weight) maybe alloy wishbones etc too?

Seen a couple of titanium exhausts go for decent money recently, another big weight area.
Old 28 April 2009, 10:34 PM
  #531  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

I have to be careful of the lightweight exhausts as they can be too noisy for tracks these days...

Yes, JDM bonnet. Face lift and rare.

What's the process for removing the airbags safely?
Old 28 April 2009, 11:52 PM
  #532  
Jolly Green Monster
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (4)
 
Jolly Green Monster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: ECU Mapping - www.JollyGreenMonster.co.uk
Posts: 16,548
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Floyd
I have to be careful of the lightweight exhausts as they can be too noisy for tracks these days...

Yes, JDM bonnet. Face lift and rare.

What's the process for removing the airbags safely?
just remove the battery for an hour or more before hand and then remove airbag.

Simon
Old 30 April 2009, 12:33 PM
  #533  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Are the airbag sensors and brain esy to find (I don't have a manual)...

A few pictures:
I've finished the airbox heat shield by extending it right up to the front cross member. I did this because when the rad fans operate it chucks gob loads of hot air into the airbox area. There's a little cut out for the bonnet stay of course.

Name:  Canon076.jpg
Views: 0
Size:  81.3 KB

Fan cowlectomy:
Before
Name:  Canon078.jpg
Views: 0
Size:  107.1 KB
After
Name:  Canon082.jpg
Views: 0
Size:  166.0 KB
Saves a whopping 250g = don't bother unless really bored
Old 30 April 2009, 12:47 PM
  #534  
dynamix
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (3)
 
dynamix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: near you
Posts: 9,708
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default



Looks nice though Floyd
Old 30 April 2009, 02:09 PM
  #535  
olliecampbell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
olliecampbell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: AL4 | W1B
Posts: 2,699
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Looks much better painted!. Wouldn't the original push the air through the rad better though?
Old 30 April 2009, 02:44 PM
  #536  
P20SPD
Drag it!
iTrader: (1)
 
P20SPD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Flame grilled Wagon anyone?
Posts: 9,866
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Airbag sensors are inside wheelarch on chasis leg just above towing eyes and brain is in centre console in front of gear stick below radio.
Old 30 April 2009, 03:47 PM
  #537  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by olliecampbell
Looks much better painted!. Wouldn't the original push the air through the rad better though?
My logic here is that with the fans static/off, the flow will be better as it's less restricted and therefore more efficient cooling for track work. The cowls/shrouds must be designed for the toughest conditions that the car may be placed in i.e. hot, arid countries, so therefore in the UK it will not be so important to use every last cfm from the fans = 2 open fans will do...

Thanks for the info Steven.
Old 30 April 2009, 05:11 PM
  #538  
Silver Scooby Sport
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (15)
 
Silver Scooby Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: South Wales
Posts: 13,846
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

That is some serious cutting down on weight there

I'm looking for a good drivers door card if you have one
Old 30 April 2009, 09:07 PM
  #539  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

How about the rest of the interior?
Old 30 April 2009, 10:26 PM
  #540  
Silver Scooby Sport
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (15)
 
Silver Scooby Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: South Wales
Posts: 13,846
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Floyd
How about the rest of the interior?
Done that already.... my drivers door handle looks like it has had a small dog hanging from it

The relocated PS tank is very interesting to me... I have have some serious troubles with my PS over the last few months after changing to another tank and it has taken ages to resolve it, I know you can get a Spec R kit for relocation but I do like the idea of an OEM relocate.

I have one really dumb question to ask, I assume the tank feeds the pump via gravity so after moving it to where it is now have you had any issues at all or does the fact the system pumps does the flow of oil get back up to the pump ok ?

Last edited by Silver Scooby Sport; 30 April 2009 at 10:31 PM.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Floyd’s ‘economy’ Stage III



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:52 AM.