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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Yep!
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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When I was questioned about my water injection last year, told them it was water only for the injection and intercooler spray.

Its was only noticed when they looked in the boot and saw the tank.

Last years blue book states section 10.5, Fuel 10.5.1 only air can be mixed with fuel as an oxidant

What about after ,ie after the exhaust manifold and is water really classed an oxidant
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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A chargecooler AND and iceberg (or small fragments of) might be a good way to go for a sprint car, but to do it properly you need a big rad. At the 500hp sort of levels, the intercooler can be shedding as much as 70hp (if it's efficient).

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 911
Need some help.

The Boss (wife) has just approved a spend of £400 on the Sti for hill climb improvements.
Now:
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FMIC? My V8 TMIC suffers from heat soak, but will this yeild anything for me if I go for a FMIC?
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If I did what unit fits best? The Hybrid on ebay from Hong Kong looks good but any thoughts please.
3
Big Brakes for the front with 16'' Sti rims? Got some killer Pagid pads coming for the stock calipers (4 pots) so not sure if these will be needed.
4
TSL sports cat to replace the old Jap one i have one at present. No gain on decat bhp, but feel like an Angel and the environment. I'm too old to be a rebel.

Help please!

Graham.
Not wanting to insult your driving or anything, but how about a driving training course?
Just somewhere to test what your car actually does and how quick you can go round corners in it. (Just a thought, you might not need one anyway so don't take it the wrong way )
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Graham... are yu counting down the 1000 posts in this thread...... i make that.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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No offence taken at all, and you make a very valid point.
I know my 'bravery' limit is rather low, but training in Hill Climbs is very hard to find. Track/rally..all easy but hill climbs are a special subject.
A good smooth Aerodrome with some marker cones and a full day is the best idea.
I have only spun a car racing 3 times in my life, and one resulted in a crumpled 911...

Ron!

Yes, I just can't believe this humble simple thread has gone on so long, moreover my personal counter of 4500 or so entries actually started at about 1500 when the Snet changed configuration...I REALLY must get out more!

Still, been very enjoyable I must admit for me, probably bored/irritated quite a few on here (sorry MarkA/Floyd + 100 others) and bemused the wizzo's too..Pavlo/AndyF/Wallace/Banks etc with my singular lack of automotive engineering!

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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OK.
Going FMIC this next few days when i find one. Can you fit a FMIC and still keep the stock Sti airbox/panel filter?
Don't really want to fit a cone thing and cold airbox, BUT, if I did have to which is the best type? (and where from).

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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And finally, because it is my thread #1000 is all mine.

When it was 1 week old


And hill climbed slower than this:


3 years later...
http://www.dropshots.com/day.php?use...entTime=131625

Graham.

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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nice cornering
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Round 2 of the SCC Loton Park, startline, the very easy bit...

You will all love it!

Can't wait to see how fast you all are.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 911
OK.
Going FMIC this next few days when i find one. Can you fit a FMIC and still keep the stock Sti airbox/panel filter?
Don't really want to fit a cone thing and cold airbox, BUT, if I did have to which is the best type? (and where from).

Graham.

Hybrid FMIC means NO standard air box. K&N 57i on mine <£100.

More expense

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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Graham, rather than the 57i have a word with that Mark fellow again, he can offer spun alloy trumpets and a compatible K&N
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim W
Graham, rather than the 57i have a word with that Mark fellow again, he can offer spun alloy trumpets and a compatible K&N
no good for a MAF based car.

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim W
Graham, rather than the 57i have a word with that Mark fellow again, he can offer spun alloy trumpets and a compatible K&N
Think Graham's still has a f/e 20g not a rotated turbo which I thought these are for?
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
no good for a MAF based car.

paul
Why Paul?

You can have a trumpet that bolts on to the MAF housing if you want...

Gerry, smaller bore trumpets are available than the 4 inch diameter monsters fitted on the rotated Garrett turbos

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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Graham,

I think with most FMIC, the pipe work comes through the inner wing where the airbox normally sits.

One idea, have a look at the engine bay of a Group A Impreza, they have a cone filter just behind the headlight. With a shield around it to stop heatsoak.

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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Thanks everyone.
Sourced an inlet system in anticipation of sourcing the FMIC this week.
Now know that the panel filter MUST go which looses the 'stock' look to kid the EVO I've done little to the car!

From being bored I'm a bit busy now!!

Season opens in 11 weeks time.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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This might be of interest

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=474733
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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I used to have an HKS FMIC and it was great...changed it because it was found to be a bit restrictive at around the 550 brake mark oh and the Lateral Kit was prototyped on my car, so I got a deal.

Things to watch out for on it are:

The pipe work is painted mild steel, which gets manky very quickly and covered in rust staines

The core is made from quite a soft alloy so it get's little dings in it if left exposed to the elements, but this does mean it's fairly resistant to being punctured (although mine was where someone backed into it)

The core doesn't like road salt and corrodes very quickly to a dull, dirty, pitted finish...a light dusting of paint is advised, ideally from new, and then regularly recoated when the paint wears off

On the phase 2 engine version the pipe work doesn't seal very well with the stock style dump valve, it's better to get the phase 1.5 (Sti 3/4) pipework which uses a far better style of dump valve mounting

HTH

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Thanks everyone (again) it is all a big help.

If i can get the FMIC I want soon I can get it all on before a re-map by AndyF including the DIY water spray.
Got itchy spanners and tinsnips now....

Wish he would answer my email!

Graham, impatient as ever.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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Andy's on his hols Graham

BTW, you'll need a sharp stanley knife to trim the bumper properly...and be bloody careful while you're doing it, I managed to stick the blade into the side of my right hand between thumb and forefinger...blood everywhere...should have got a couple of stiches done, but didn't and once I'd taped it up tried to carry on took me a couple of days to finish a job that should have taken less than one...
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Things hotting up now.
Sourced a FMIC from Harvey, a mushroom inlet from API, and a Snet thread form Paul at Zen about reversing the inlet that seems so simple (!).

Hope to report on the 'action' as I go along.


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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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If the mushroom inlet is what I think it is.. ie HKS.. send it back.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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If the mushroom inlet is what I think it is.. ie HKS.. send it back.
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DW, That's good ole Graham getting his mushrooms and his cones mixed up, DURRR .

I agree with you entirely and wouldn't have anything to do with a mushroom on an Impreza.

ANY Impreza; well, I s'pose it can't do much harm on an NA 1600.

We'll set him right.

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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Mushroom Filter = BAD



Cone Filter = GOOD



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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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what about cylinder ones?





Graham, are you sure you want to lose some of the instance throttle response you get with the TMIC?
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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Kev, set up right I doubt he'll notice the difference, I certainly didn't when I went from TMIC to FMIC, mainly because there was so much more power and torque released right across the rev range!
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Sorry David, thanks David, gotcha Tim, and puzzeled like Kev...and you wonder why I'm confused....

Good job you are all looking out for me.
Porsche's are so simple in comparison.

See you tomorrow morning David/API I like my bacon buttie with brown sauce and the coffee at 65 deg C with 5 grams of sugar...

Suddenly busy
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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10-15 to 10-30 - then, buttie order noted, We don't do grammes of sugar what is that in lb's and ounces or grains even?

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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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""""BTW, you'll need a sharp stanley knife to trim the bumper properly""""

The "Scottish" way to do this would be to draw nice straight lines with a felt pen, then using a Dremmel (or similar) with one of those dinky wee high speed cutters, just zip it, fingers intact, painless job.

Well done Agent Slooby, nothing like putting the Sassenachs in harms way
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