Enjoy Graham!!

 

Graham,

Is the Barbon Hillclimb on your schedule? (If it's not, why not try it, I've enjoyed watching there. I think that they do 1 local/regional, 1 national and 1 bikes (supermoto's on the hill during the year).

You can see it from my parents back garden (about 3 miles accross the valley!) and as I only see them about once every 4 months, if yours doing that on e it gives me another good excuse to visit (and get taken out for dinner etc......) and even meet and have a chat with you.

regards (and wanting an AndyF remap and it's all your fault!)

madmoog

 

Don't blame me!

I blame Carl and Peanuts, and David Wallis, and John Banks.
I blame Subaru too!

Actually doind Barbon, then nipping over to Harewood in the same weekend. All part of the Leaders Hill climb championship.
Never done the 2 hills before, never been to Barbon!

Would be nice to meet at Barbon. Easy to find too, I'm the slow one....

Graham.

 

Dont blame me!

also, I would DEFINATELY be quoting the 400+ number
forget the average value

 

Yes...but...will the stock Sti v3 hang on or will I be looking for a 2.5 soon (Dyney style motor)
How come you never see 2.2's anymore?

Just one week to go and the first Test Day at the Club's hill climb track. Bet it snows!

407 bhp and packed ice...
I'm a cr@p driver in the dry, but in the snow...

Graham.

 

Your dangerous

 

2.2's are out there, but the 2.5 is soooo cheap

Would be good to see your race calender

 

I think Dyney has hit the proverbial nail square on.
a 2.2 cdb stroked to 2.33 is a very nice way to go, but when 2,5's can be had for current prices it doesnt get a look in.

put your calendar up G, we can make sure you have a cheering section at as many events as possible

 

Doing nothing in you neck of the woods, all Midlands venues reaching up to Barbon in the Lakes and Harewood in Yorkshire.

The Marshals think I'm one of the safest (boring) drivers on the hills, so when I do have a moment or 3 they just laugh and run to me with fire extinguishers....
Sideways? who, me??

The 2.5 must be the way to go, straight out of the box.
Seems to me a 450x450 engine in an Impreza is Max for the car (and a pratt driver like 911), and i have all the right external bits now save the 6 speeder.

Temptation.

Must do the 6 speeder next if the 2 litre survives in the dry. I don't HAVE to press the accellerator all the way down...

Graham.

 

911, You won't want to go above 1.4 bar on a 2.5 with standard pistons you'll break the ring lands out of it. Despite what you hear - built properly, head gaskets are NOT a problem on 2.5's in our experience but cracked standard pistons on high - [ish] boost are.

I have 2.2 Jun strokers in stock.

2.5 don't rev remember that too.

David APi Engines / APi Impreza

PS Did you see my note elsewhere about the con rods in your motor??

 

excellent work i must say

 

graham, let me know when your at harewood too.

David

 

David(s)
Yes, you have made me nervous about my rods!
With the value of the car plumeting now, I have lost a lot of interest in keeping it together to make a tidy road car.
I don't expect to 'build' another race car, so will carry-on with the Sti, so if it goes pop so be it ( can always race the unburstable 911 )
A 2.5 with a 6 speeder would be ok @ a red line of 6500?

Seems that a 2.5 with the bits I have should give 400x400 @ 1.3 ish?
The 2.5 I went in was one of your conversions I think (had an API sticker on it)?
Lovely conversion.

As to the 2.2, they would rev but cost 2 x the 2.5?

DW: I expect to be at Harewood on 15th May for a Leaders Championship run. First time racing there. Be good to see you there!

Graham.

 

Graham

I would change the pistons as standard on the 2.5 for reason mentioned by David and for safety fit better rods i.e Pauter, Oliver or Arrow. I think if you did this then it would be safe to set the rev limit to 7500rpm. But as you say, only one way to find out.
When I put mine together (soon) I'll limit it 7k.

The 2.2 or 2.35 can be bought in the states for not much more money than a specced 2.5. The blocks are much harder to get hold of (so I've been told) and hence cost a couple of hundred dollars more.

 

And the 2.2 can be CDB and you can be sure that the heads are ok gasket - wise as the lands are all the same etc.

Have you any knowledge on the torque a 2.2 can make?
Would it realy exceed the 340 ish I have (maybe!)

The costs rocket if you do the pistons/rods on a 2.5...

Hope I find out after the season closes in October. If the engine lasts that long then a 6 speeder is on the cards.

Is demand for these slowing down now?

Graham.

 

Pistons & rods add about 0.8-1K to the price of a 2.5.

Not sure about the torque or the 2.2 would need to look at some dyno graphs.

Demand for 6 speeds is slowing!! not quickly enough

 

Edited to add the original reason for posting - well done! Forget the figures if you're happy how it goes when racing.

I'm not convinced a 2.0 or 2.5 can make a repeatable 400+ on a td05/06 - certainly not if it is with a tmic and being regularly abused on track (not sure if Andy mapped it around a max duration run of 1-2 mins for your hill climbing, or treated it as a track car?).

In the end, rolling roads are rubbish from an accuracy and repeatability point of view - on the same day, the same operator can get close results....but then get one of the other guys to run the same car (when everyone else has gone home) and the results vary wildly. They are at a loss to expalin why.

For comparative purposes (on my own car) I prefer a g-force meter - it accurately shows improvements (or losses ), but there is no accurate way of translating this figure to something meaningful for those using rolling roads.

I now have an autobahn entrance with a bridge a few hundred metres further on - terminal speed is what we measure.

 

I agree!

The whole point of the RR was to assertain if the target had been met, 360 x 330, and that was sort of answered to the conditions/vagaries you correctly state.

In the end, it is the time on the display when I pass through the time beam that counts!
Andy knows exactly what the car's real purpose is, and tuned it for clean easy motorway running (ie to and from the track) and the 60 sec blasting that is hillclimbing, about 4 or 5 flat-out runs between the tight bends.

This is where I think the 2.5 at 400x400 available when I need it, coming out of the turns, would be a cracker.

This year will see.
I also think that a 6 speeder in the car will allow me to fit real stick hill climb slicks without fear of breaking the trans, and that will allow the benefit of the engine to be maximised.

Next sunday will tell.

I am practicing at the Club's hill climb under full race conditions, overalls/helmets and timing to 1/100.
My best there is 60.01 secs, in the summer, in the dry.....a 58 would be nice....

MarkA will be sprinting his Impreza with 2.5/6 speeder, so that will be interesting!

Graham.

 

im sure you wont have to worry over your 5 speed, mine lasted for a long time and im sure mine only gave up because i let someone abuse my car when i knew i shouldnt we live and learn im hoping the 6 speed accelerates quicker than my old box

 

500 posts

 

So there are a lot of other nutters like me then!
Steve, hope you are right, no $$ left.
What diff are you using for the 6 speeder?

Graham

 

the jap one, plus ive had to order the drive shafts with it , as there was some bits missing from the box and the only way to repair was to buy the driveshafts good thing is i dont have to woory about driving slow in case i trash my box but i would rather have £2k in my bank account and worry about the box

 

I'm going for the latter with my fingers crossed...(so is the wife)

I thought you could take the Jap 6 speeder.shift linkage/prop/rear diff and bolt it all in and the rest would match-up, especially the driveshafts.
I'm thinking of the Jap 6 speeder without dccd etc.

Thanks for the info.

Graham.

 

Ran the car at the Club's hill climb 'Members Only' weekend.
First time in anger and it was dry/damp/snow/sleet/and everything else, but....

God it's bloody quick!

The pull out of the bends is huge, and if you catch it just right....bang it throws you catapulting down the track.....

This is one hell of a hill climb car, just soooooooooooooooooooooooooo nice!

But, mayday!

I have no tick-over!

It will NOT tickover. Starts great, races great, but let the engine tick over, cut, straight off to zero and cuts out.

Why?

Answers very quickly please. Was perfect yesterday, today, ...??

But what a fab car,

Thanks Andy, and thanks to all my 'advisors' on Snet

Now, a 2.5 would give 500 bhp, and the 6 speed will allow slicks....Phase 4 approaches.....but next Xmas.

Now I will enjoy.

I went as quick today in the winter as I went in the peak summer last year.

Graham.

A clubby hillclimb

A bit of technology:



I could swop my Impreza for this...


They come in all shapes and sizes:



God, remember these:



Just before and during a run!



Been plagued by poor start times todat, 2.5's to do the first 64feet compared to 2.1's of last year, so some work to do!

Graham.

 

No tick over!
I would say you have an air pipe off somewhere. ISCV?

What times did you get and what was your best before the mods?

 

Me too, but cannot find one off!
If you hold the engine at 1000 rpm it hunts up and down to 1000 to 1500 so regularly it is untrue!

Will try the idle control valve (again) tomorrow night.
Graham.

 

No breather/plug been ejected from the inlet pipe?

 

Missed a bit:

In the hot summer of 2003 I ran the hill at 60.01 secs. Start was 2.07 to cover the 64 feet marker.
Today in all the crud I ran 60.13 and a start of 2.51 secs.

To gain 0.5 is to die for in hill climbing....

Graham.

 

Nope, all pipes present and correct!
The engine runs just so well at full chat it's untrue. What a car!

Just dies at tick-over...

Graham.

 

Graham - are you running an AVC-R ? - I had some tickover problems, that were similar (went REALLY well when not ticking over..)

If so, check that the speed output display on the AVC-R is not showing 0 all the time - i.e. its getting a reading......

Let me know -