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Old 07 July 2004, 03:45 PM
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I don't see any point in being bitter (unless you have been done over obviously!). You just need to remember that at heart all people are selfish. People change, states of mind change and priorities change. I think it is naiive to believe that if you meet someone and "fall in love" with them that neither of you will change.

How many ex-couples are out there that have managed to go from "in love" to mortal enemies, yet people still enter into marriage with a blinkered "that won't happen to us" attitude. What makes them think they are any different from the people who's marriages failed and have now become enemies?

Of course some work, and fair play to them, but the sad fact is that the chance of marriage working is falling in todays litigous society where everyone is aware of their rights and aware that there are better options than staying in a marriage and trying to deal with the changes in each other.
Old 07 July 2004, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
Things must be expensive down Kent way B2Z

In Scotland you could pay to get her killed 8 times for that mate
<Billy Connolly>

...and have somewhere to park your bike....

</Billy Connolly>
Old 07 July 2004, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by boxst
W69:

Very politically correct answer as the implication from your last answer is that you will only marry B2Z if you are destitute!

Steve.
lol what i was getting at was that i wouldn't marry anyone if i won the lottery because when we got divorced he'd get my money!!

B2Z is gonna be lucky to see his next b'day after what i found out at the washing machine repair shop!!!
Old 07 July 2004, 06:09 PM
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Thats outrageous.

Lets face it she was working as on Opticians assistant before marrying him so she wont have been on any more than £12k PA, therefore earning £250k in roundabout 21 years. So by being 'supportive' it earns her upto £5m when all is said and done- ridiculous.

33% of all future earnings as well FFS, i choked on my sandwiches when i heard that today!

Can you honestly imagine that being the other way around in ANY circumstances? Me neither.

What IS this country coming to??
Old 07 July 2004, 10:35 PM
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what interests me is this scenario: ray parlour continues to earn the same income - 1/3rd goes to his ex wife. a new woman comes along - this woman cleans his pants or whatever and therefore as earned the right to at least 1/3rd of his current earnings - however, his current earning are now only 2/3rds of his actual earnings cos he is paying 1/3rd to some woman who was cleaning his pants back in the day. so the current woman is effectively cheated out of what is rightfully hers (via her contribution to ray parlour's career) by some bint who hasn't been on the scene for years. it's all fookin mad.
Old 08 July 2004, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by weapon69
B2Z is gonna be lucky to see his next b'day after what i found out at the washing machine repair shop!!!

If you are planning a hit can yo drop me a mail first - there would be a couple of things to tidy up

Seriously though - men do give up all the good things to get married.... in order of priority

1. Remote control
2. Friends
3. Own social life


Damn - I've been married 10 years - I don't even remember havinf friends or the remote control
Old 08 July 2004, 12:15 AM
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LOL at that site, sheer class :

Let's do the math. 2 decent mid-priced ****** a week - $250/week (that's if you know where to look) - $1000/month - $12,000/year - $120,000 for 10 years of quality f***ing.

Sounds a lot cheaper than a wife, even without divorce a$$-raping.

I have known men with ugly fat wives that looked like the Terrible Mr. Toad from the Wind in the Willows that spent $300,000.00 in 10 years on them and were lucky to get one f**k a month. Imaging the top flight call girls they could have f***ed for that money.
Old 08 July 2004, 12:22 AM
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Im living with the g/f and she permenantly pesters to get married. I mean there is no way id get married. Ok I grew up with 2 parents etc etc but I just dont think I personally would trust anyone enough to marry them. I mean I just dont trust women when it comes to such things. ! Id rather die single than get married and live 40 years of unhappiness !
Old 08 July 2004, 09:15 AM
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but I just dont think I personally would trust anyone enough to marry them.
That's the spirit!

Seriously, does your gf know you will never marry her and you see splitting up as inevitable?

Id rather die single than get married and live 40 years of unhappiness
Old 08 July 2004, 09:32 AM
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Haven't read all the thread, but it's not actually as bad as the media are making out is it? Basically, they don't have the assets to have an "equal" split, so he's paying £400k pa over 4 years.

Still fooking expensive - and she did want it for life. Women
Old 08 July 2004, 12:58 PM
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Do post-nuptual agreements exist?

If not, its time to don the inventors cap

Damo
Old 08 July 2004, 01:03 PM
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Post-Nups do exist but in this country are not legally binding

However this ruling has meant that this whole area will need to be reviewed along with the law associated with co-habitating!
Old 08 July 2004, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyBrew
Post-Nups do exist but in this country are not legally binding

However this ruling has meant that this whole area will need to be reviewed along with the law associated with co-habitating!
What law?
Old 08 July 2004, 04:04 PM
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Hmmm - I knew there'd be a thread about this in here somewhere! I have to say I agree that she's a money grabbing leach as the original settlement was more than enough. He should have to contribute to bringing up his kids but that should be it - does she have no pride?

However, you can't tar all women with the same brush. I've just been in the reverse situation where my ex has fleeced me for every penny I have. I earned more than him (mainly because he was a lazy git and hardly worked) but I'm certainly no millionnaire. No kids and he initiated everything. I can't even afford a proper birthday pressie for my new man because I'm still paying off so much debt that my ex ran up - using my credit cards, refusing to pay mortgages and bills etc etc

It makes my blood boil when men claim that they're always hard done by and all women are leaches. I admit my situation is more unusual but it does happen - men can be every bit as bad as women so pack in generalising!
Old 08 July 2004, 04:31 PM
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DBW-did you remarry?
Old 08 July 2004, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Drunken Bungle *****
Hmmm - I knew there'd be a thread about this in here somewhere! I have to say I agree that she's a money grabbing leach as the original settlement was more than enough. He should have to contribute to bringing up his kids but that should be it - does she have no pride?

However, you can't tar all women with the same brush. I've just been in the reverse situation where my ex has fleeced me for every penny I have. I earned more than him (mainly because he was a lazy git and hardly worked) but I'm certainly no millionnaire. No kids and he initiated everything. I can't even afford a proper birthday pressie for my new man because I'm still paying off so much debt that my ex ran up - using my credit cards, refusing to pay mortgages and bills etc etc

It makes my blood boil when men claim that they're always hard done by and all women are leaches. I admit my situation is more unusual but it does happen - men can be every bit as bad as women so pack in generalising!
In general, men lose out, because the courts will usually award custody of children to the mother, who clearly needs a house for them to live in. This usually means the bloke ends up in a ****ty one-bed flat and struggles, whereas the ex-wife can pretty much carry on as before.

Women are not all leeches, far from it, but the divorce laws in the UK have not caught up with the times. Increasingly, women earn a similar amount as their husband, so why should there be anything other than parity over settlements?
Old 08 July 2004, 06:50 PM
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I wonder how many footballers are contemplating marriage now!
This surely means the death knell for marriage. Any guy that thinks he might have a career or business and earn real money will be taking a great leap of faith after this decision.
Old 08 July 2004, 06:52 PM
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Or maybe people won't get divorced so lightly.......
Old 08 July 2004, 07:03 PM
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Just to cheer everyone up I'll tell you about our Systems Guy.

I'll call him SG.

He had a son with his first wife,, she was a high flyer and took a job in the city, the writing was already on he wall and he stayed in the Midlands. She didn't want custody so SG got the house and is paid maintenance.

In his late 30's SG meats a 23year old daughter of a Lord and Lady. For a wedding present they were given a suitable property. Six months after the wedding SG finds her cheating on him. Divorce takes place and the in-laws are all on SG's side, she doesn't ask for a penny due to in-laws threats of no inheritence. SG keeps the house.

He's now in his early 40's and living with a Widow, she's financially secure and has her own house paid for. SG is now living in a house he didn't pay for witha women who is well off, he is paid maintenance by his first wife for their son and he has nearly £400k in the bank from his previous two house sales.

Cheers
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Old 09 July 2004, 08:02 PM
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Or people wanting a quick buck will divorce so as to save working and live off their ex partners future earnings.

This means the death of Marriage for anybody male or female who has any intention of trying to earn a living. the sooner Pre-nuptial agreements are brought in as legal the better.


Maybe if Ray Parlours ex is so good at creating and supporting sports stars she should set up her own company and live off her own hard work and not his.
Old 12 July 2004, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by weapon69
DBW-did you remarry?
Yes I did. I'm blissfully happy with my new hubby (who I met on SN! ) Sometimes you have to see what wrong looks like to really appreciate right when it comes along.

I was completely determined that the whole experience wouldn't turn me into a bitter and cynical person. Sometimes you get sh@t on and that's life - but the scum bag was not going to affect me for the rest of my days. He had 10 years of my life (plus all the cash!) and he's not getting one second more.

I think the hardest thing was learning to trust someone again. But I'm generally a trusting person and again, I was not going to be changed for the worse by someone horrid.

Why am I posting all this? Because there seem to be a huge number of bitter people who just want to take it out on future realtionships/ partners and that just doesn't make any sense to me. Let it go, it's in the past - you only get one life, don't let some idiot screw it up.
Old 12 July 2004, 11:28 AM
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Anybody read the Mail this weekend?

It had Karen Parlours side of the story... well, the Mails interpretation of it
She apparently had no idea how much he earned, she also had to deal with his gambling and drinking. she was quoted as saying she would rather have him back than the money.

TBH, I really don't know how I feel on the whole subject, mainly because the press first vilified her and then has attempted to make her out as the innocent....
Old 12 July 2004, 11:30 AM
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Surely this thread title should read "married or soon-to-be divorced guys beware". Those already divorced are immune, I would have thought.
Old 12 July 2004, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Drunken Bungle *****
Yes I did. I'm blissfully happy with my new hubby (who I met on SN! ) Sometimes you have to see what wrong looks like to really appreciate right when it comes along.

I was completely determined that the whole experience wouldn't turn me into a bitter and cynical person. Sometimes you get sh@t on and that's life - but the scum bag was not going to affect me for the rest of my days. He had 10 years of my life (plus all the cash!) and he's not getting one second more.

I think the hardest thing was learning to trust someone again. But I'm generally a trusting person and again, I was not going to be changed for the worse by someone horrid.

Why am I posting all this? Because there seem to be a huge number of bitter people who just want to take it out on future realtionships/ partners and that just doesn't make any sense to me. Let it go, it's in the past - you only get one life, don't let some idiot screw it up.
DBW- i think you have a typically female view on it. Men seem to hold on to the bitterness alot longer (usually forever ) Glad your happy now Hope your ex is thoroughly miserable lol
Old 12 July 2004, 12:34 PM
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So with this case set in place, cue Gazza and Stan Collymore taking their Ex's to court as when they were with them their football went down the $hitter!

So has to work both ways doesn't

Both have well documented evidence as they pummelled the $hit outta there other halves in sheer frustation at their fall from grace.
Old 12 July 2004, 01:01 PM
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wouldn't this be a bit more fair:

you were working in specsavers earning £4.50 an hour.
i was playing for the gooners earning £4.50 a millisecond.

in the 10 years of our marriage, you spent £5.2M of my money. Now I want it all back, minus the £93,600 you would have earned in specsavers over that period.

seems fair to me.

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