Groupbuy for US STi short engine
25 February 2004, 09:08 PM
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Why do the US guys get a 2.5L engine?? is it cos of the crappy fuel they have to make up power? Is the block STi spec or "standard" WRX? Is it open or closed deck?
EDIT: Also to get the 2.5l have they increased the bore or the stroke (or both)?
cheers mike
EDIT: Also to get the 2.5l have they increased the bore or the stroke (or both)?
cheers mike
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25 February 2004, 09:23 PM
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Please delete me if i'm wrong cos i don't want to confuse anyone but here are some pics of the 2.5L block
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show.../t-506498.html
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show.../t-506498.html
25 February 2004, 11:21 PM
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DannyBoy, another way of interpreting what you've been told is, if you don't understand the end-game, don't imagine this as cheap and easy way of slapping on big power. Quite right, it isn't.
On the other hand, this also suggests that, if you do understand the full implications and a bigger capacity suits your needs, then this group buy is an absolute BARGAIN.
The same rules apply to anyone who goes internal with their motor - you enter a whole new world of potential power. AND potential risk.
John Banks has proved this route is a good one for those seeking serious power from a daily driver (and he's tried most other things). John may not thank me for saying this - sorry mate
- but that's good enough for me. I also happen to believe that I can fit the 2.5 into my UK00 and with a few changes/additions enjoy modest benefits for modest outlay. But yes, my ultimate game plan with cost £6k-plus at the end of the day - probably at least a year from now.
I intend to tread carefuly, and also to enjoy every step of the way
Richard.
PS Mark, I will be away on business for most of next week. But please put my name down as definite buyer on any new thread.
On the other hand, this also suggests that, if you do understand the full implications and a bigger capacity suits your needs, then this group buy is an absolute BARGAIN.
The same rules apply to anyone who goes internal with their motor - you enter a whole new world of potential power. AND potential risk.
John Banks has proved this route is a good one for those seeking serious power from a daily driver (and he's tried most other things). John may not thank me for saying this - sorry mate
- but that's good enough for me. I also happen to believe that I can fit the 2.5 into my UK00 and with a few changes/additions enjoy modest benefits for modest outlay. But yes, my ultimate game plan with cost £6k-plus at the end of the day - probably at least a year from now. I intend to tread carefuly, and also to enjoy every step of the way
Richard.
PS Mark, I will be away on business for most of next week. But please put my name down as definite buyer on any new thread.
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26 February 2004, 01:08 AM
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put my done for one
put my done for one
kurt sti
Small question is there an invoice whit the engine and can you keep it in transit I need to ship it back out of the uk
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kurt sti
Small question is there an invoice whit the engine and can you keep it in transit I need to ship it back out of the uk
motorsport@freegates.be
26 February 2004, 09:37 AM
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I will request seperate ones for each engine.
Mark A
1. Mark A
2. john banks
3. Richard Hopkins (Hoppy)
4. Hol (AndyH)
5. Andy.F
6. Chris Garner
7. ST AYE (Paul)
8. Dyney
9. Bats-wrx (Chris)
10. DuncanG
11. MiGi[/QUOTE]
12. hacmeister (Andy)
13. Kurt sti
Please add your name to this list if it is missing.
Mark A
1. Mark A
2. john banks
3. Richard Hopkins (Hoppy)
4. Hol (AndyH)
5. Andy.F
6. Chris Garner
7. ST AYE (Paul)
8. Dyney
9. Bats-wrx (Chris)
10. DuncanG
11. MiGi[/QUOTE]
12. hacmeister (Andy)
13. Kurt sti
Please add your name to this list if it is missing.
26 February 2004, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoppy
DannyBoy, another way of interpreting what you've been told is, if you don't understand the end-game, don't imagine this as cheap and easy way of slapping on big power. Quite right, it isn't.
On the other hand, this also suggests that, if you do understand the full implications and a bigger capacity suits your needs, then this group buy is an absolute BARGAIN.
The same rules apply to anyone who goes internal with their motor - you enter a whole new world of potential power. AND potential risk.
John Banks has proved this route is a good one for those seeking serious power from a daily driver (and he's tried most other things). John may not thank me for saying this - sorry mate - but that's good enough for me. I also happen to believe that I can fit the 2.5 into my UK00 and with a few changes/additions enjoy modest benefits for modest outlay. But yes, my ultimate game plan with cost £6k-plus at the end of the day - probably at least a year from now.
I intend to tread carefuly, and also to enjoy every step of the way
Richard.
On the other hand, this also suggests that, if you do understand the full implications and a bigger capacity suits your needs, then this group buy is an absolute BARGAIN.
The same rules apply to anyone who goes internal with their motor - you enter a whole new world of potential power. AND potential risk.
John Banks has proved this route is a good one for those seeking serious power from a daily driver (and he's tried most other things). John may not thank me for saying this - sorry mate
- but that's good enough for me. I also happen to believe that I can fit the 2.5 into my UK00 and with a few changes/additions enjoy modest benefits for modest outlay. But yes, my ultimate game plan with cost £6k-plus at the end of the day - probably at least a year from now. I intend to tread carefuly, and also to enjoy every step of the way
Richard.
27 February 2004, 06:49 PM
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Not if it was sent today ?
Mark A
Mark A
Strange .. can you mail me so I get your e-mail address ?
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28 February 2004, 10:52 AM
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Chris try mark.atkinson66@btinternet.com
John what head gasket and engine gasket set did you use on your 2.5 ?
I'd not thought about gasket sets until yesterday. I've been given a price of @ $250 for the complete set.
Mark A
John what head gasket and engine gasket set did you use on your 2.5 ?
I'd not thought about gasket sets until yesterday. I've been given a price of @ $250 for the complete set.
Mark A
29 February 2004, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by M0NEY
Cost is starting to go up
Head gaskets
ARP bolts
More to come yet
Next you will be asking:
Gearbox
Labour
Turbo
lol!
Head gaskets
ARP bolts
More to come yet
Next you will be asking:
Gearbox
Labour
Turbo
lol!
Na its alright pretty much covered all that already. I was just wanting to know if you could get away with standard head bolts or not. I thought it would be the arp ones cause o the torque they would be producing
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29 February 2004, 07:49 PM
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sti 2.5 short block on ebay
29 February 2004, 09:36 PM
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Re headgaskets, just doing some looking into this, think I should flag up given the number of people in this group buy that I MAY have an issue with mine. No more information yet. Any conclusions I reach I will post. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=512175
29 February 2004, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by M0NEY
So if you are thinking about ARP ones cause of the torque producing, means you got the 6 speed sorted already
Nice one!
Nice one!
I wish i had everything i needed sitting here. I think it will take me a fair time and a wad of cash
. Hopefully once i'm finished though i will have a great big on face.
01 March 2004, 01:36 PM
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lol! Good luck
I had everything i needed sitting here to. THen while doing the engine build, i needed other things and ended up spending more money! lol
I had everything i needed sitting here to. THen while doing the engine build, i needed other things and ended up spending more money! lol
02 March 2004, 09:32 AM
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John Banks could you please e-mail me, as I have a question for you relating to this groupbuy.
Mark A
John Banks don't worry johnfelstead has answered my question.
Mark A
John Banks don't worry johnfelstead has answered my question.
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02 March 2004, 11:01 AM
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In the absence of further information I would suggest using standard head bolts and a standard EJ257 head gaskets.
My coolant situation could be due to not retorqueing the ARP head studs after 600 miles, or it could be just the coolant getting a bit hot and the head gasket(s) didn't leak at all.
I don't have the right fittings to test the pressure in the coolant system whilst driving, so I will get them retorqued on Thursday and see how we go from there.
My coolant situation could be due to not retorqueing the ARP head studs after 600 miles, or it could be just the coolant getting a bit hot and the head gasket(s) didn't leak at all.
I don't have the right fittings to test the pressure in the coolant system whilst driving, so I will get them retorqued on Thursday and see how we go from there.
02 March 2004, 01:33 PM
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John, why do the ARP head studs need to be retorqued after 600miles???
Did you torque them in the beginning using the standard 2.0 torques?
Did you torque them in the beginning using the standard 2.0 torques?