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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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Why do the US guys get a 2.5L engine?? is it cos of the crappy fuel they have to make up power? Is the block STi spec or "standard" WRX? Is it open or closed deck?


EDIT: Also to get the 2.5l have they increased the bore or the stroke (or both)?

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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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Migi its a semi closed deck block. If i remember right www.ispeed.com have info on it.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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Please delete me if i'm wrong cos i don't want to confuse anyone but here are some pics of the 2.5L block

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show.../t-506498.html
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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DannyBoy, another way of interpreting what you've been told is, if you don't understand the end-game, don't imagine this as cheap and easy way of slapping on big power. Quite right, it isn't.

On the other hand, this also suggests that, if you do understand the full implications and a bigger capacity suits your needs, then this group buy is an absolute BARGAIN.

The same rules apply to anyone who goes internal with their motor - you enter a whole new world of potential power. AND potential risk.

John Banks has proved this route is a good one for those seeking serious power from a daily driver (and he's tried most other things). John may not thank me for saying this - sorry mate - but that's good enough for me. I also happen to believe that I can fit the 2.5 into my UK00 and with a few changes/additions enjoy modest benefits for modest outlay. But yes, my ultimate game plan with cost £6k-plus at the end of the day - probably at least a year from now.

I intend to tread carefuly, and also to enjoy every step of the way

Richard.

PS Mark, I will be away on business for most of next week. But please put my name down as definite buyer on any new thread.

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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Hoppy it is done.

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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Cool put my done for one

put my done for one

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Small question is there an invoice whit the engine and can you keep it in transit I need to ship it back out of the uk

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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I will request seperate ones for each engine.

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1. Mark A
2. john banks
3. Richard Hopkins (Hoppy)
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6. Chris Garner
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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Mark have reccived my PM ??


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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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Not if it was sent today ?


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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoppy
DannyBoy, another way of interpreting what you've been told is, if you don't understand the end-game, don't imagine this as cheap and easy way of slapping on big power. Quite right, it isn't.

On the other hand, this also suggests that, if you do understand the full implications and a bigger capacity suits your needs, then this group buy is an absolute BARGAIN.

The same rules apply to anyone who goes internal with their motor - you enter a whole new world of potential power. AND potential risk.

John Banks has proved this route is a good one for those seeking serious power from a daily driver (and he's tried most other things). John may not thank me for saying this - sorry mate - but that's good enough for me. I also happen to believe that I can fit the 2.5 into my UK00 and with a few changes/additions enjoy modest benefits for modest outlay. But yes, my ultimate game plan with cost £6k-plus at the end of the day - probably at least a year from now.

I intend to tread carefuly, and also to enjoy every step of the way

Richard.
I think you've summed up what I was trying to say nicely
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark A
Not if it was sent today ?


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Strange .. can you mail me so I get your e-mail address ?

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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Chris try mark.atkinson66@btinternet.com

John what head gasket and engine gasket set did you use on your 2.5 ?

I'd not thought about gasket sets until yesterday. I've been given a price of @ $250 for the complete set.

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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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Standard EJ257 headgaskets.

Might be worth checking what is in the gasket kit and whether it is Subaru or not.
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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From the UK or US ?
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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From the US.
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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Just a quick question here john what head bolts are you using? Standard or ARP ones?
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Cost is starting to go up

Head gaskets
ARP bolts

More to come yet

Next you will be asking:

Gearbox
Labour
Turbo

lol!
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:57 AM
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by M0NEY
Cost is starting to go up

Head gaskets
ARP bolts

More to come yet

Next you will be asking:

Gearbox
Labour
Turbo

lol!

Na its alright pretty much covered all that already. I was just wanting to know if you could get away with standard head bolts or not. I thought it would be the arp ones cause o the torque they would be producing .
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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So if you are thinking about ARP ones cause of the torque producing, means you got the 6 speed sorted already

Nice one!
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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Wink sti 2.5 short block on ebay

anyone interested seen this on ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2463527631
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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Re headgaskets, just doing some looking into this, think I should flag up given the number of people in this group buy that I MAY have an issue with mine. No more information yet. Any conclusions I reach I will post. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=512175
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by M0NEY
So if you are thinking about ARP ones cause of the torque producing, means you got the 6 speed sorted already

Nice one!

I wish i had everything i needed sitting here. I think it will take me a fair time and a wad of cash . Hopefully once i'm finished though i will have a great big on face.
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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lol! Good luck

I had everything i needed sitting here to. THen while doing the engine build, i needed other things and ended up spending more money! lol
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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John Banks could you please e-mail me, as I have a question for you relating to this groupbuy.

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John Banks don't worry johnfelstead has answered my question.

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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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In the absence of further information I would suggest using standard head bolts and a standard EJ257 head gaskets.

My coolant situation could be due to not retorqueing the ARP head studs after 600 miles, or it could be just the coolant getting a bit hot and the head gasket(s) didn't leak at all.

I don't have the right fittings to test the pressure in the coolant system whilst driving, so I will get them retorqued on Thursday and see how we go from there.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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John, why do the ARP head studs need to be retorqued after 600miles???

Did you torque them in the beginning using the standard 2.0 torques?
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