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17 April 2003, 03:16 PM
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It's the 335mm upgrade for the fronts. Same as your 1st url. Minimum of 17" alloys required. There just isn't the physical room to fit 335mm discs and calipers inside a smaller wheel.
The kit has 335mm discs with seperate alloy bells, larger pads (due to the larger disc surface), caliper mounting hardware and spacers designed to use the existing 4-pot Subaru calipers i.e. MY99+.
If you have 16" wheels and 2-pots, you can go for the 308mm upgrade which consists of replacement 4-pot calipers.
You can't fit larger diameter and thicker discs to the Scooby without pushing the caliper further away from the wheel hub or by increasing the width of the caliper using spacers. Afterall the Subaru caliper is designed to take a smaller, thinner disc.
You would achieve the same result by fitting a large brake kit, but they would supply you with a new caliper ala AP Racing, Hi-Spec, Wilwood, etc..
Stefan
The kit has 335mm discs with seperate alloy bells, larger pads (due to the larger disc surface), caliper mounting hardware and spacers designed to use the existing 4-pot Subaru calipers i.e. MY99+.
If you have 16" wheels and 2-pots, you can go for the 308mm upgrade which consists of replacement 4-pot calipers.
You can't fit larger diameter and thicker discs to the Scooby without pushing the caliper further away from the wheel hub or by increasing the width of the caliper using spacers. Afterall the Subaru caliper is designed to take a smaller, thinner disc.
You would achieve the same result by fitting a large brake kit, but they would supply you with a new caliper ala AP Racing, Hi-Spec, Wilwood, etc..
Stefan
17 April 2003, 03:28 PM
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what are calipers? i thought they were the pads.
so this kit is only for the fronts! don't we need the rears as well.
its like changing 1 battery of a 2 battery walkman.(or old man with young bird) bit odd?
so this kit is only for the fronts! don't we need the rears as well.
its like changing 1 battery of a 2 battery walkman.(or old man with young bird) bit odd?
17 April 2003, 03:39 PM
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The caliper is the large red metal thing in the photo. It hold the brake pads and pushes them against the disc when you press the stop pedal.
Yes, this kit is for the fronts only. The majority of the braking force comes from the front of the car. Personally, I would fit some complementary pads on the rear to avoid upsetting brake balance. The kits come with Mintex, EBC or Ferodo (my favourite), so I would just fit the same pad on the rear.
Ian can sell you rear discs if you need them.
Stefan
[Edited by ozzy - 17/04/2003 15:42:38]
17 April 2003, 08:08 PM
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Thanks for the info explaining the 308mm price, it all makes sense now.
I'd like to also go for a 308mm kit.
Anybody need a set of subaru 4-pot calipers for their 335mm conversions?, looks like I'll have a set for sale soon
Cheers
Rich
Edited to ask Ian - How much for braided hoses & fluid as part of the deal?
Cheers
[Edited by Richard Curtis - 17/04/2003 20:10:09]
I'd like to also go for a 308mm kit.
Anybody need a set of subaru 4-pot calipers for their 335mm conversions?, looks like I'll have a set for sale soon
Cheers
Rich
Edited to ask Ian - How much for braided hoses & fluid as part of the deal?
Cheers
[Edited by Richard Curtis - 17/04/2003 20:10:09]
17 April 2003, 10:31 PM
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Richard,
Ian gave me a price of £60 for Goodridge hoses & £15 for fluid. That wasn't as part of the Group Buy, so twist his arm a little. I want the Goodridge hoses and fluid with my kit, so maybe he'll be kind enough to give us a little discount.
Stefan
Ian gave me a price of £60 for Goodridge hoses & £15 for fluid. That wasn't as part of the Group Buy, so twist his arm a little. I want the Goodridge hoses and fluid with my kit, so maybe he'll be kind enough to give us a little discount.
Stefan
19 April 2003, 12:57 AM
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Thanks Ian - price looks good.
Last question b4 ordering - what type of disk?
Anybody got any advice on the pros and cons of the 4-types
i.e. standard, grooved, drilled, grooved & drilled
The grooved and drilled look the best, any drawbacks (apart for more work for Ian )?
Cheers
Rich
Last question b4 ordering - what type of disk?
Anybody got any advice on the pros and cons of the 4-types
i.e. standard, grooved, drilled, grooved & drilled
The grooved and drilled look the best, any drawbacks (apart for more work for Ian
)?Cheers
Rich
19 April 2003, 01:14 AM
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I'd recommend the grooved ones.
Plain - well, speaks for itself really.
Grooved - helps to de-glaze the pad
X-Drilled - supposed to aid cooling, but consensus is that they are prone to cracking.
Don't have 1st-hand experience of Ian's discs but people I've taken advice from in the past have always told me to avoid grooved disc - once bitten and all that.
Stefan
Plain - well, speaks for itself really.
Grooved - helps to de-glaze the pad
X-Drilled - supposed to aid cooling, but consensus is that they are prone to cracking.
Don't have 1st-hand experience of Ian's discs but people I've taken advice from in the past have always told me to avoid grooved disc - once bitten and all that.
Stefan
19 April 2003, 11:00 AM
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Ian,
Put me down for the 335mm kit with Drilled and Grooved discs and DS2500 Pads. Cheque in post today. Cheers Dave.
Dont wanna put words in Ozzy's mouth. BUT - Like he said in his last post - Drilled discs are more prone to cracking around the drilled holes. Thats why on Ians website he recommends grooved ONLY if your gonna do track days.
When Ozzy said "avoid grooved" i think he meant avoid drilled!!!
Sorry Ozzy if you didn't mean this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers Dave.
Put me down for the 335mm kit with Drilled and Grooved discs and DS2500 Pads. Cheque in post today. Cheers Dave.
Dont wanna put words in Ozzy's mouth. BUT - Like he said in his last post - Drilled discs are more prone to cracking around the drilled holes. Thats why on Ians website he recommends grooved ONLY if your gonna do track days.
When Ozzy said "avoid grooved" i think he meant avoid drilled!!!
Sorry Ozzy if you didn't mean this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers Dave.
23 April 2003, 08:09 AM
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Dougy - I have had your order in so far . no more yet.
Glen - I have not tried this wheel but I would think they will fit , we make our discs with more offset than the standard ones which pushes the discs further in , you will need 15mm of offset inside your wheel to clear the calipers , I mean the offset from the centre of the wheel where it sits against the disc , and the inside of the spokes.
If anyone is planning on doing any track days then I would go for the grooved only as the extra heat generated can cause cracking around the holes.
Cheers Ian
Glen - I have not tried this wheel but I would think they will fit , we make our discs with more offset than the standard ones which pushes the discs further in , you will need 15mm of offset inside your wheel to clear the calipers , I mean the offset from the centre of the wheel where it sits against the disc , and the inside of the spokes.
If anyone is planning on doing any track days then I would go for the grooved only as the extra heat generated can cause cracking around the holes.
Cheers Ian
23 April 2003, 08:58 AM
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Thanks for the insight guys.
Ian, the cheque is written out & in the envelope
(along with delivery address).
Had to get stamps yesterday. Will post lunchtime today.
Cheers
Glenn
Ian, the cheque is written out & in the envelope
(along with delivery address).
Had to get stamps yesterday. Will post lunchtime today.
Cheers
Glenn
23 April 2003, 09:34 AM
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Ian,
I posted my cheque this morning so you should receive it tomorrow. Just to confirm my order is for:-
335mm Subaru Brake Kit with Grooved Discs (MY99 RB5) - £525
Ferodo DS2500 pads + £30
Goodridge Brake Line Kit (4 of) + DOT brake fluid + £65
Delivery + £10
Stefan
I posted my cheque this morning so you should receive it tomorrow. Just to confirm my order is for:-
335mm Subaru Brake Kit with Grooved Discs (MY99 RB5) - £525
Ferodo DS2500 pads + £30
Goodridge Brake Line Kit (4 of) + DOT brake fluid + £65
Delivery + £10
Stefan
25 April 2003, 01:31 PM
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Ok I will give you a shout when I get it , I have spoken to a chap today enquiring about the 335mm kit and have told him to join the group buy which he is doing so that is the 5 orders now , once I get them all in we will send them out to you, Cheers Ian
Dougy , yhm.
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26 April 2003, 04:26 PM
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Hi Ian,
how much for a disk & bell setup only to replace 330 x 28mm Prodrive/Alcon disks on a P1 please?
Also, would the bells be exclusive to Godspeed discs thereafter or useable with other makes?
thanks in advance,
Steve.
how much for a disk & bell setup only to replace 330 x 28mm Prodrive/Alcon disks on a P1 please?
Also, would the bells be exclusive to Godspeed discs thereafter or useable with other makes?
thanks in advance,
Steve.