New Prodrive P25 reimagines Impreza 22B
24 June 2022, 11:40 AM
#33
The GR Yaris has a manual gear box? Long gone.
Originally Posted by stockcar
its a competition spec sequential gearbox with paddle shift - even Porshe the makers of the "greatest" drivers car's have given way to progress and had to admit that a basic manual is not only old hat but is slow(er) to boot
regardless of what enthusiasts would like to think the days of traditional manuals are long gone
regardless of what enthusiasts would like to think the days of traditional manuals are long gone
25 June 2022, 04:34 PM
#34
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apologies if this is irrelevant or boring etc...
25 June 2022, 05:02 PM
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27 June 2022, 12:53 PM
#37
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It's gonna be an absolute weapon! To be fair for the road or casual track days a gr yaris or a sorted classic impreza will be just as much fun if not more at a fraction of the price. But nice to see the passion for these cars and what they can do on a big budget! 
27 June 2022, 04:45 PM
#38
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I don't really understand the purpose of this car. I get that it's supposed to be a 'restomod' but surely that could be done at a faction of the price.
It doesn't look any different to a wide body type r. Perhaps that's the point but for that money I'd expect some kind of differentiator, maybe a carbon rear wing or something.
It's not spectacularly fast or progressive technologically. Surely the idea of a restomod is to take an old car and add modern functionality. Where's the hybrid power or curs system or computer wizardry you find in modern supercars at that price?
If it's just a homage to the original car then why not just rebuild them with all new/refurbished parts and sell them at a fifth of the cost like the MST mk1 & 2 escorts?
Perhaps I'm totally missing something or perhaps I'm just old and grumpy nowadays!
Apologies for the rant.
It doesn't look any different to a wide body type r. Perhaps that's the point but for that money I'd expect some kind of differentiator, maybe a carbon rear wing or something.
It's not spectacularly fast or progressive technologically. Surely the idea of a restomod is to take an old car and add modern functionality. Where's the hybrid power or curs system or computer wizardry you find in modern supercars at that price?
If it's just a homage to the original car then why not just rebuild them with all new/refurbished parts and sell them at a fifth of the cost like the MST mk1 & 2 escorts?
Perhaps I'm totally missing something or perhaps I'm just old and grumpy nowadays!
Apologies for the rant.
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27 June 2022, 08:55 PM
#40
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Electric is the way forward if we like it or not. When you see cars like that it makes me wonder if the tipping point is closer than we think…
27 June 2022, 10:56 PM
#41
The way forward lol tipping point. It's modernised version of a classic. Well done for Prodrive making it. They could of sat on there bump like Subaru and watch there history burn. Instead they acted like Toyota and carried on producing exciting performance cars.
Electric is the way forward if we like it or not. When you see cars like that it makes me wonder if the tipping point is closer than we think…
Originally Posted by adam.pah
Electric is the way forward if we like it or not. When you see cars like that it makes me wonder if the tipping point is closer than we think…
28 June 2022, 07:14 AM
#42
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Toyota have created a range of engaging modern cars that are AFFORDABLE. Prodrive have revamped and old car, added nothing groundbreaking and are selling it for a price that 99.9% of the worlds population can not afford.
28 June 2022, 09:57 AM
#43
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Prodrive is NOT Subaru and they are simply commemorating an anniversary of their 1st WRC car (and likely pocketing an amount of ££ in the meantime) / David Richards has been many things over the years but he knows how to run a successful company and make money......
a GR Yaris was only originally designed for one purpose (for which it was ultimately not required) - to homologate a different shell for the WRC championship
Toyota made it anyway on the basis of what appeared to be a publicity drive / advertising stunt and it accidentally turned into a sales success.........
a GR Yaris was only originally designed for one purpose (for which it was ultimately not required) - to homologate a different shell for the WRC championship
Toyota made it anyway on the basis of what appeared to be a publicity drive / advertising stunt and it accidentally turned into a sales success.........
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28 June 2022, 10:18 AM
#44
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Prodrive have done something that any good business would do, they’ve seen the price rises in the likes of the 22b and have cashed in on it. Id imagine they already had most of the tooling for their own bespoke parts, and the rest of the build is “off the shelf” motorsports products by the looks of it.
Do I admire it…yes. Do I think it’s worth the money…no. But that doesn’t matter, because they’ve all been sold, so they’ve achieved what they set out to do.
I will say this though, once you look past the poor early dash and fairly bland interior, you realise you are buying a product from the company that actually built the championship winning cars of old, that’s pretty special in itself.
Do I admire it…yes. Do I think it’s worth the money…no. But that doesn’t matter, because they’ve all been sold, so they’ve achieved what they set out to do.
I will say this though, once you look past the poor early dash and fairly bland interior, you realise you are buying a product from the company that actually built the championship winning cars of old, that’s pretty special in itself.
28 June 2022, 10:45 AM
#45
My point exactly. Well put. They have also boosted the imagine. And have taken advantage of what Subaru haven't.
Originally Posted by Danjo
Prodrive have done something that any good business would do, they’ve seen the price rises in the likes of the 22b and have cashed in on it. Id imagine they already had most of the tooling for their own bespoke parts, and the rest of the build is “off the shelf” motorsports products by the looks of it.
Do I admire it…yes. Do I think it’s worth the money…no. But that doesn’t matter, because they’ve all been sold, so they’ve achieved what they set out to do.
I will say this though, once you look past the poor early dash and fairly bland interior, you realise you are buying a product from the company that actually built the championship winning cars of old, that’s pretty special in itself.
Do I admire it…yes. Do I think it’s worth the money…no. But that doesn’t matter, because they’ve all been sold, so they’ve achieved what they set out to do.
I will say this though, once you look past the poor early dash and fairly bland interior, you realise you are buying a product from the company that actually built the championship winning cars of old, that’s pretty special in itself.
28 June 2022, 10:52 AM
#46
Prodrive haven't got the budget or the manufacturing capability that Toyota have, to produce a new Cheap Impreza.
I'm glad Prodrive have made this. I wouldn't be buying one of these if it was £50,000. So the price is irrelevant. At least it's been made.
Subaru could be making some amazing Impreza's right now, for good money and selling them all over retail price. But there not.
I'm glad Prodrive have made this. I wouldn't be buying one of these if it was £50,000. So the price is irrelevant. At least it's been made.
Subaru could be making some amazing Impreza's right now, for good money and selling them all over retail price. But there not.
Originally Posted by adam.pah
Prodrive have done nothing like Toyota!
Toyota have created a range of engaging modern cars that are AFFORDABLE. Prodrive have revamped and old car, added nothing groundbreaking and are selling it for a price that 99.9% of the worlds population can not afford.
Toyota have created a range of engaging modern cars that are AFFORDABLE. Prodrive have revamped and old car, added nothing groundbreaking and are selling it for a price that 99.9% of the worlds population can not afford.
28 June 2022, 12:43 PM
#47
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but they do, its simply that they are not sold in Europe because of emission laws and also partly because of a falling market share.........
Subaru UK is the sole importer of Subaru BUT is not a part of Subaru Japan and hence made up its own mind years back to chase SUV type market share............
take a look Stateside or in Japan to see what Europe has been missing out on
Subaru UK is the sole importer of Subaru BUT is not a part of Subaru Japan and hence made up its own mind years back to chase SUV type market share............
take a look Stateside or in Japan to see what Europe has been missing out on
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28 June 2022, 09:20 PM
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Knowing the fact I'll never have that sort of money I tried to stay away from looking at the info of it but after watching the goodwood clips of it was really impressive its even got us tempted to sell our bugeye sti and do a 22b styled classic it's probably the only way I could get close to a car like it haha
29 June 2022, 01:18 AM
#51
Not seen any new Impreza's imported from Japan?
I know Subaru USA have now ditched the STI now, and are only making a WRX then finishing the Impreza.
Are Japan still making them?
I know Subaru USA have now ditched the STI now, and are only making a WRX then finishing the Impreza.
Are Japan still making them?
Originally Posted by stockcar
but they do, its simply that they are not sold in Europe because of emission laws and also partly because of a falling market share.........
Subaru UK is the sole importer of Subaru BUT is not a part of Subaru Japan and hence made up its own mind years back to chase SUV type market share............
take a look Stateside or in Japan to see what Europe has been missing out on
Subaru UK is the sole importer of Subaru BUT is not a part of Subaru Japan and hence made up its own mind years back to chase SUV type market share............
take a look Stateside or in Japan to see what Europe has been missing out on
03 July 2022, 11:34 PM
#53
I'm now doing a P25 conversation, one mod and its done
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225039512...AAAOSwOoBisbF9
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225039512...AAAOSwOoBisbF9
04 July 2022, 06:26 AM
#54
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2.5l badge will suit it best
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