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Old 08 August 2023, 08:55 AM
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Well why not indeed , they are making virusus all day every day after all

a pandemic is the best way possible for transfer of wealth , other than conflict
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Well why not indeed , they are making virusus all day every day after all

a pandemic is the best way possible for transfer of wealth , other than conflict
They being nature? Yep, believe it or not, nature is making new viruses all day every day. The majority of which don't infect us, some infect us but are essentially harmless, but every now and again, nature develops a virus capable of wiping out millions of people!

Or was the bubonic plague and Spanish flu invented in a lab?
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They being Pharma ,


and the plague wasn't a virus , "Spanish flu" was as the result American imperialists keeping chickens in ridiculously close proximity ....

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Viruses have been around of millennia , they are here to help us

which cannot happen if we hide from them


If Pharma were for the people they would have made a vaccine to prevent AIDS , but the coloured folk have no money so its not important them

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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
They being Pharma ,


and the plague wasn't a virus , "Spanish flu" was as the result American imperialists keeping chickens in ridiculously close proximity ....
A pandemic is a pandemic, whether it is a virus or disease doesn't really matter.

You can have a dig at the American imperialists all you want, but you are still acknowledging Spanish flu was created by nature and not in a lab by humans!

We will probably never know if Covid 19 was a lab leak or came from bats in unhygienic market in Wuhan, it also doesn't matter.

The point is, whether man made or natural, virus or disease, another pandemic is only a question of time, so having the research labs pre-prepared is common sense.
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So this amounts to germ warfare essentially

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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
So this amounts to germ warfare essentially
No! Its nothing sinister, scandalous, or corrupt, its juts the law of probability. Another pandemic will happen and we should be ready for it!
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Sarcasm noted !

more labs more experimenting more chances of a mistake or deliberate leak

more cash to make ands power in hands of top tier


remote AI servers to replace local workers , cos they wont comply lockdowns .....

smaller businesses closed down , by design

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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Sarcasm noted !

more labs more experimenting more chances of a mistake or deliberate leak

more cash to make ands power in hands of top tier


remote AI servers to replace local workers , cos they wont comply lockdowns .....

smaller businesses closed down , by design
But they have not built a new lab to create viruses/diseases, they have built a new lab to study viruses and diseases already in the wild and likely already a pandemic. Any leaks would only be something that is already in circulation!

As for AI, this is a new facility, any jobs created are new jobs, so AI isn't replacing anyone even if it's used!

Would you rather we didn't react to the next pandemic, go back into the dark ages where 50% of the worlds population was wiped out by the bubonic plague?
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My god , the level of naivety - just staggering


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As for the plague , this would not happen today only because we are more aware of how it was transmitted have basic hygiene skills

we do not require Gain of function labs to prevent this ****
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Meanwhile the whole western worlds occupants are being functioned for profit with cheap processed food , killing many many x the numbers

but somehow this is all fine
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Meanwhile the whole western worlds occupants are being functioned for profit with cheap processed food , killing many many x the numbers

but somehow this is all fine
Covid came out of China, not the western world!

Even if the crazy conspiracy thoughts in your head are true, and countries are purposefully releasing deadly viruses on the world population in order to manipulate us, do we not still need labs to study the viruses and create vaccines in order to save our populations? Or should we just let everyone die?

So given your hatred of the western world, when are you moving to North Korea? Apparently they've got it real good at the moment, should suit your world view perfectly!
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lol , China trying to kill rest the world - cut off their market haha

never mind that the leak came from a lab that couldnt be set up in the US cos it would been illegal
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Covid came out of China, not the western world!

Even if the crazy conspiracy thoughts in your head are true, and countries are purposefully releasing deadly viruses on the world population in order to manipulate us, do we not still need labs to study the viruses and create vaccines in order to save our populations? Or should we just let everyone die?

So given your hatred of the western world, when are you moving to North Korea? Apparently they've got it real good at the moment, should suit your world view perfectly!
Well the US will sanction any country it cant control

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_sanctions
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Eu now bought by cooperates
no free speech

ie that the vaccine does not stop transmission after all - one big lie after another


https://rumble.com/v3e6lhn-europe-ju...clayton-m.html

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What are you waffling on about now!

No one ever said the vaccine would stop transmission, it's designed to fight the infection earlier through trained antibodies before it can take hold and become a serious illness and kill you. You will still get infected and still be infectious, the difference is you're body is able to fight it and are therefore infectious for a much shorter time.

New variants will still come along and circumvent the old vaccines or natural immunities, just like every flu that ever existed!

You seriously need to stop believing every far left conspiracy tripe you stumble across on the internet!
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And here lies the problem , people either have selective memory or no memory at all
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its in black n white ffs

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/o...-by-up-to-half
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this is the same selective memory as blocking out the millions that died from illegal invasion of Iraq
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Whats worse is these lies are being foist on poorer populations ie Africa whose inhabitants are much fitter and less susceptible to introduced viruses , to the tune of billions of dollars by the WHO



of course this is an irrelevance to western people


I suspect folk believe poorer nations should be paying to keep our unfit population safe ( anything but )

whereas the reverse should be the case

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Exactly! It cuts transmission by reducing the amount of time you are infectious. It does not stop you being infectious all together!
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my goodness they could tell you anything and you'd believe it


an btw the vaccine also kills various people

is this also totally acceptable ? 'in the grand scheme of things'
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
my goodness they could tell you anything and you'd believe it


an btw the vaccine also kills various people

is this also totally acceptable ? 'in the grand scheme of things'
Winding 20 rolls of tinfoil tightly enough around your nose and mouth would probably kill you too *, but amazingly, they still sell the stuff in thousands of shops up and down the country!

(* if you pm them your address, some kind soul might consider ordering a large home delivery for you)
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
my goodness they could tell you anything and you'd believe it


an btw the vaccine also kills various people

is this also totally acceptable ? 'in the grand scheme of things'
The reduction in deaths thanks to the vaccine is far greater than the number of deaths from the vaccine itself! So yes, in the grand scheme of things, vaccine deaths are better than no vaccine!

The female contraceptive pill is a far greater risk than the corona vaccine, but I don't hear you moaning about that! Oh sh*t, now I've probably set him off on another conspiracy tangent!



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The number of deaths as a result of the vaccination programme and protocol behind it dwarfs those saved , anybody and everybody now realises this

300m people die every year naturally

3m died of covid and the vast majority were 'sick' to start with
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Viruses have been around of millennia , they are here to help us

which cannot happen if we hide from them


If Pharma were for the people they would have made a vaccine to prevent AIDS , but the coloured folk have no money so its not important them
Viruses are not here to help us! It's not a symbiotic relationship, they are here to survive, like all living things.
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
The number of deaths as a result of the vaccination programme and protocol behind it dwarfs those saved , anybody and everybody now realises this

300m people die every year naturally

3m died of covid and the vast majority were 'sick' to start with
Do you just make this stuff up? Over 7m died of covid, billions were vaccinated, the number of deaths is so small it's hard to even register it in percentage terms.

As for 'sick' to start with what the hell has tha got to do with anything? Flu generally doesn't kill healthy people, that's why we vaccinate the vulnerable . However, covid also killed lots of healthy people
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
The number of deaths as a result of the vaccination programme and protocol behind it dwarfs those saved , anybody and everybody now realises this

300m people die every year naturally

3m died of covid and the vast majority were 'sick' to start with
Firstly, the total number of deaths from Covid worldwide, according to WHO Covid Dashboard is just shy of 7 million, not 3 million as you suggest. The figure of 3 million was reached in 2021!

Research provided by ICL estimates nearly 20M deaths may have been prevented thanks to the vaccine, although that article is from June 2022, so the figure will also be higher by now.

It's very difficult to find worldwide statistics of vaccine related deaths, presumably why you didn't quote a figure, needless to say, the value is extremely low, although the amount of fake news regarding vaccine deaths is extremely high! Have a read of this to help calm you down -> https://yourlocalepidemiologist.subs...-sudden-deaths

Please note, I provide links to back up my point, while you just pluck figures out of thin air because you cannot find a trustworthy source, and you expect us to believe you over scientists and experts!


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