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Old 08 December 2021, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Doctor - if I take this experimental vaccine
can I still get Covid ? - yes
can I still transmit it ? Yes
can I end up in hospital ? Yes
can I die from it ? Yes

Only a moron would have the vaccine on the strength of this
common sense
Your chances are reduced though.
Old 08 December 2021, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by silver-sub
Your chances are reduced though.
lies don’t believe any of it
Double vaccinated are dropping like flies
Old 09 December 2021, 05:13 AM
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The main health issues Raggy and DPB should probably be concerned about are stress and high blood-pressure from spending too much time reading conspiracy bo**ocks online, not side-effects of the vaccine, or even Covid itself.
Old 09 December 2021, 09:13 AM
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Christmas party 'news' a drawn out fiasco smoke screen to cover up the increasing lack of omicron fatalites




its a desperate situation for government ( drugs companies )



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Old 09 December 2021, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Doctor - if I take this experimental vaccine
can I still get Covid ? - yes
can I still transmit it ? Yes
can I end up in hospital ? Yes
can I die from it ? Yes

Only a moron would have the vaccine on the strength of this
common sense
Officer, if I wear this seat belt.......
Can I still be in a car accident? Yes
Can I still get hurt? Yes
Can I end up in hospital? yes
Can I die? Yes
Only and idiot would wear a seatbelt........
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Old 09 December 2021, 09:30 AM
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Oh, and it's not experimental
Old 09 December 2021, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
lies don’t believe any of it
Double vaccinated are dropping like flies
This is simply untrue, and is debunked daily

Anti-vaxxers are getting into Flat Earth levels if ignorance now
Old 09 December 2021, 09:31 AM
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It doesn’t take a scientist to see how a seat belt works


Old 09 December 2021, 09:40 AM
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Who cares? It's the same logic.

Anyway, I bet you don't know what is in all the medicines you have taken in your life, but still you take them. If you actually read the leaflets that came with them and saw the listed side effects, you wouldn't take any!
Old 09 December 2021, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
It doesn’t take a scientist to see how a seat belt works
It also doesn't take a scientist to see how the vaccine works!

Over 90% of cases in Germany are unvaccinated! Over 80% of hospitalisations in Germany are unvaccinated! Its pretty clear the selfish Anti-Vaxxers are prolonging the restrictions for all!
Old 09 December 2021, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Christmas party 'news' a drawn out fiasco smoke screen to cover up the increasing lack of omicron fatalites




its a desperate situation for government ( drugs companies )
Total rubbish! The Christmas party news is a concerted effort from the media, opposition and Conservative back benchers to oust the damaging clown from Government!
Old 09 December 2021, 09:59 AM
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Alll owned and controlled by same media , they don’t care who’s in power ( as long as it’s not a pacifist )

they also know stomata doesn’t have a chance
Old 09 December 2021, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
It also doesn't take a scientist to see how the vaccine works!

Over 90% of cases in Germany are unvaccinated! Over 80% of hospitalisations in Germany are unvaccinated! Its pretty clear the selfish Anti-Vaxxers are prolonging the restrictions for all!

80 % of people presenting with what ??
Old 09 December 2021, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
80 % of people presenting with what ??
Covid19, I would imagine........
Old 09 December 2021, 11:30 AM
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Another 25 different mutations found in Brisbane

more lockdown excuses !

More vaccines to be pumped in

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Old 09 December 2021, 11:35 AM
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But hey , we are nearly on top of it right !
Old 09 December 2021, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Another 25 different mutations found in Brisbane

more lockdown excuses !

More vaccines to be pumped in
Did you just make that up? No links = fake news!

0 cases registered in Queensland in the last 24 hours! Brisbane is opening up, not locking down! Had a telecon with a customer in Brisbane this morning!
Old 09 December 2021, 01:02 PM
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@IDHAS and RAGGY, you are both spreading anti vax proganda and I'm afraid you need to be banned from this forum.

People can die from listening to the nonsence you are coming out with, which can be trivially debunked yet you are happy to keep going on.

A global drug company and government conspiracy is a totally off the rails thing to suggest, and you forget there are no winners here.
Pfizer and Moderna may be making money, but the rest of the health system has ground to a halt, so other expensive treatments are not going ahead.

No governments wants to deal with a pandemic on their watch.

My question is what do you stand to gain from spreading this disinformation? Because if you think you are doing us a favour you can jog on.
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We all know Boris’s speaker will just get rehired when he heat dies down a bit
Old 09 December 2021, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by matt-c
@IDHAS and RAGGY, you are both spreading anti vax proganda and I'm afraid you need to be banned from this forum.

People can die from listening to the nonsence you are coming out with, which can be trivially debunked yet you are happy to keep going on.

A global drug company and government conspiracy is a totally off the rails thing to suggest, and you forget there are no winners here.
Pfizer and Moderna may be making money, but the rest of the health system has ground to a halt, so other expensive treatments are not going ahead.

No governments wants to deal with a pandemic on their watch.

My question is what do you stand to gain from spreading this disinformation? Because if you think you are doing us a favour you can jog on.

lol , are you for real 😧
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-a-new-variant
Old 09 December 2021, 01:10 PM
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Pfizer is currently, and presumably boosted by the current situation the worlds 29th most valuable company, Moderna much further down the list.

Are you saying that the worlds 29th most valuable company has reached agreements with governments world wide to pretend there is a pandemic? Or pretend there are variants?

Instead of just saying are you for real (as if you have some superior information) tell us ........
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
So what, this will always happen, it's just that Omicron spreads a lots more quickly and becomes the main strain, most of the variants dissapear because they have no advantage, Omicron does so here it is.

Thankfully it still seems to be a milder disease so far, which kind of ruins your theory.
Old 09 December 2021, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Why is this surprising to you? Serious question, do you believe in evolution? Do you believe virus and bacteria can reproduce at an incredible rate and evolve accordingly? If you answer yes to one or both of these, why is this news surprising to you?

If you answered no, please point me to the peer reviewed, world shattering research which offers a better explanation than evolution which might help explaining why this is surprising to you.
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https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson-...lobal-pandemic
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“Serious and unexpected effects may occur. The Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine is still being studied in clinical trials."

If this clause was not inserted any claims would bankrupt them



instead government has endorsed an experimental solution
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Originally Posted by matt-c
So what, this will always happen, it's just that Omicron spreads a lots more quickly and becomes the main strain, most of the variants dissapear because they have no advantage, Omicron does so here it is.

Thankfully it still seems to be a milder disease so far, which kind of ruins your theory.
HOW many are dying ?????
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
HOW many are dying ?????
NO confirmed death due to Omicron.

However, infection is only just beginning to ramp up.

Your strategy is to wait until 100's are dying a day is it rather than take caution?
Human life is in most societies considered sacrasanct and trumps financial or other concerns, that is why we had the lock downs even though the cost was huge.

You need to consider that what you are saying is that you know better than all the governments, all the medical community, the WHO etc etc.

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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
“Serious and unexpected effects may occur. The Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine is still being studied in clinical trials."

If this clause was not inserted any claims would bankrupt them



instead government has endorsed an experimental solution
Disingenuous. So the vaccines have to pass set trials to be authorised for use. They have. The difference here is that people confuse Emergency Use authorisation and full FDA approval, for example. In the UK it's different anyway, they have been approved, full stop.
In the US, however, the process to approve is lengthy, but either way, the same trials have to be done, and passed, so the emergency use allows them to use it immediately. Once the pandemic is declared over, then they all have to apply for full FDA approval through the normal channels. Seeing as they have been in use for years by then anyway, I imagine it will be shorter, but it is America.....

So the vaccines have passed all the medial trials, they are not experimental, what exactly is your concern?
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It also considered sacrasanct to be allowed to sell people **** food which makes them seriously unhealthy and more suseptible to virus


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