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Old 24 May 2020, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
I don't think I've met a single person who is supportive of HS2. Mostly it's indifference or not something people are even remotely interested in, yet it's supposed to benefit the 'North'. If it's needed to free up capacity to run other trains, then someone should say so, but to sell it as a means to get to London 37 seconds faster than I currently do..... don't really give a ****. Don't really want to go to London anyway, it's a dirty, filthy place. Before spending any more money on it, we should look at how people's travel behaviors change after this virus thing.

Trident.....never really think about it, but that is always likely to be a marmite subject for many.
My thoughts exactly
Old 24 May 2020, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lozgti1
My thoughts exactly
There are some very good explanations on the web (Youtube included), that show how HS2 will have far-ranging benefits for local and regional normal-speed trains, which in practice add up to getting close to the equivalent of 3 new lines for the price of one. How? Because once HS2 goes live, the local and regional stopping services on a lot of routes will no longer be competing for space on the existing lines with high-speed non-stopping services. Currently, because so many different types of services are competing for track and signal space with one another on the same lines, on average stopping services run around 33% slower than they'd otherwise need to, and also far less frequently than they otherwise could do, with the end result of crowded carriages, far longer delays in the event of breakdowns, and generally a far less satisfactory experience for the people using the trains.

Bottomw-line - HS2 is about far more than just getting to Birmingham 10 minutes quicker.
Old 25 May 2020, 01:08 AM
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So it’s benefiting those people between London and Birmingham ?

rather than the North
Old 25 May 2020, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Get rid of Cummings !!
Your desire might be a fair way off in the future.
Old 25 May 2020, 08:24 AM
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Since Lying to the public takes precedent , brexit and now this

boirs is married to cummings
Old 25 May 2020, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by lozgti1
My thoughts exactly
Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
So it’s benefiting those people between London and Birmingham ?

rather than the North
No, it will benefit people far further afield than that, because the knock-on effects of no longer running mixed-type/mixed-speed trains stretch right into almost every corner of the country, to the North of London.
Old 25 May 2020, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
So it’s benefiting those people between London and Birmingham ?

rather than the North

Yep, and even with the claimed improvement of local services I bet I still won’t be able to get a direct train to New Street or get to BHX any quicker (and without walking in all weathers).

They cancelled that route about 20yrs ago claiming New Street was struggling for capacity. And still is despite redevelopment making it into ‘Grand Central’ they did NOTHING to the platforms and lines. Making a sub 25min train commute into a near 40min commute (30min on train- sometimes longer and a 8-10 min walk dragging suitcases from Snow Hill depending on if I use the lift ). Consequently travel into the city became longer and travel to BHX’s “Eurohub” (remember that? It’s now a Ryanair hub ) became a ball-ache.

To alleviate the New Street issue they are putting in more trams instead....20+years too late! 🤦‍♂️ Better late than never I suppose.


Still, it does mean if you work in London you can buy cheaper housing further afield. Or if you are a developer you can increase house prices for developments on those new commuter routes. Who really benefits the most ‘oop North’?

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Old 25 May 2020, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Your desire might be a fair way off in the future.

Not necessarily
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...staff-11994173
Old 25 May 2020, 01:03 PM
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How can an advisor even resign/ make a "statement" ....... he needs to be sacked

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Old 25 May 2020, 01:28 PM
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Does it matter?

The opposition as well as the media wanted his blood well before the virus arrived on UK shores and now they have it.

A nice little opinion article made back in February: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-conservatives

Anyhoo, despite Cummings handing his **** to them on a silver salver. For over three days terrestrial TV news has spent over 15mins if their 30min slot talking about him. Remember this when we had the likes of ITV’s Paul Brand galavanting across the country during lockdown to dig up on his scoops on denial of fertility treatment and the travesty that is the public visiting beaches

Also love how reporters and photographers seem immune to distancing rules.
Old 25 May 2020, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B

Also love how reporters and photographers seem immune to distancing rules.
Hah! My brother sent am email to BBC this morning saying exactly that. Story about not following the rules, and they are clambering all over each other!
Old 25 May 2020, 02:16 PM
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They’re not in government , telling us how to behave.....
Old 25 May 2020, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
They’re not in government , telling us how to behave.....

Of course, however they set the narrative for what or who is going to be the flavour of the day (or months in the case of the Brexit and the virus ).
Old 25 May 2020, 04:11 PM
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He's unelected and not a civil servant, so has no right to be there in the first place! If the press don't get his head over this, then they'll get it another way!
Old 25 May 2020, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
He's unelected and not a civil servant, so has no right to be there in the first place! If the press don't get his head over this, then they'll get it another way!

Oh yes, they will get rid of him one way or the other, having a quick google shows he came into the limelight in 2013 and by 2014 the knives were out be it the press or Tory MPs...to be frank few in Westminster seem to like him so it seems odd that someone so anti-establishment (especially towards MPs that have PPE qualifications) even managed to get in to any influential position.

Having re-read the above article I missed a nugget where Cummings mentioned in the past that we should take more preparations for pandemics....erm...

Originally Posted by Stefan Collini
Cummings’s worldview is a lively conviction that total disaster for humanity may be right around the corner: as he says darkly, “it’s just a matter of when”. Think about the possibility of pathogens escaping from high-security bio-labs and causing a global pandemic
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.....Oh if only they listened to him!
Old 25 May 2020, 04:54 PM
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So I went to Durham and while I was there I went for a drive with my wife to a castle on the way back I dropped my bag of haribos , I found the one that looks like a ring and put it on, magically I sounded like a small child and woke up in a big big $hit storm.

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Old 25 May 2020, 05:34 PM
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lol.

He does look a bit like an Alien. Paul springs to mind...
Old 25 May 2020, 05:41 PM
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Quelle surprise the BBC have opened a Have your Say on his announcement.


First comments are telling the beeb to ‘move on’ and the press outside his house not distancing.
Old 25 May 2020, 09:48 PM
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testing his eyesight by doing a 60 mile roundtrip with his wife and kid in the car (whilst in lockdown)

that's "Jedi" level trolling for all the gullible fvckwits out there


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Old 26 May 2020, 10:15 AM
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Now a minister has resigned from the Government in protest over this!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-52806086

Boris and Golum are so out of touch with the public on this one! Boris has to grow a backbone and sack the little ferret!
Old 26 May 2020, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Now a minister has resigned from the Government in protest over this!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-52806086

Boris and Golum are so out of touch with the public on this one! Boris has to grow a backbone and sack the little ferret!

Day 4 and they are still quacking on about it.

Surely the easy way out of this for the slime ***** would be to suspend him pending review. Lust the dust settle and creep him back in six months time.
Old 26 May 2020, 01:12 PM
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Half the tory cabinet is made up these types , at any one time

we wouldnt even know whether this particular toerag is emplyed or not though , would we ! ..
Old 26 May 2020, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Half the tory cabinet is made up these types , at any one time

we wouldnt even know whether this particular toerag is emplyed or not though , would we ! ..
If he is sacked but still turns up in Downing Street, the press would notice!
Not only that, he is also universally disliked among most Tory MPs, so if he was still significantly influencing the politics, it would be known within the party and leaks will occur.
I doubt they would be able to sneak him back in quietly at a later stage.

As Ali-B suggests, they could try and suspend him and quietly sneak him back in later, but both the press and many Tory MPs want him out, so if they don't get him now, they'll still get him at some point!

Boris would be best off getting rid of him now, otherwise the slimy creep will continue to undermine Boris' credibility time and time again!
Old 26 May 2020, 05:24 PM
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I don't remember this amount of interest from the media over Prince Charles, Stephen Kinnock, Robert Jenrick.... I'm sure the list goes on an on. The interest in DC is out of proportion, but he has been turned in to a hate figure by the main stream media and they seem to be enjoying it. Regardless of what people think of him, and I'm indifferent because I don't know him and I've never met the guy, I just hope we don't find him dead, hung by a rope in a few days/weeks time, which could happen to anyone subject to the onslaught he's currently undergoing.
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
I don't remember this amount of interest from the media over Prince Charles, Stephen Kinnock, Robert Jenrick.... I'm sure the list goes on an on. The interest in DC is out of proportion, but he has been turned in to a hate figure by the main stream media and they seem to be enjoying it. Regardless of what people think of him, and I'm indifferent because I don't know him and I've never met the guy, I just hope we don't find him dead, hung by a rope in a few days/weeks time, which could happen to anyone subject to the onslaught he's currently undergoing.
Prince Charles, Kinnock, and the rest aren't at the centre of government, neither were they architects of the lockdown, neither do they directly advise the PM.
Cummings has been a hate figure amongst very many Tory MPs for quite a while, let alone literally millions of voters from all sides. Cummings is a very powerful man, and needs to be held to account. Personally, I strongly resent being taken for a mug. I suspect the majority of people in the UK do too.
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Well it would be one way for him to depart

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TBH I have never seen so many people breaking the bollocks@lockdown'. No one gives two hoots. Everyone is a blooming hypocrite.

But at least toy shops and somewhere you can be buy a toaster from open June 15

Best bit... people I know who never go to a garden centre are going because they are open. Same idiots who will go to a car showroom on the 1st ' Because they are open'

Whole thing is an utter mess. And as Professor Winston said about understanding "THIS IS HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS" And even the professors say it is baffling even them.

Jaysus. The English public. So important to get a Maccy D and go to Primark or die.lol

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Originally Posted by lozgti1
TBH I have never seen so many people breaking the bollocks@lockdown'. No one gives two hoots. Everyone is a blooming hypocrite.

But at least toy shops and somewhere you can be buy a toaster from open June 15

Best bit... people I know who never go to a garden centre are going because they are open. Same idiots who will go to a car showroom on the 1st ' Because they are open'

Whole thing is an utter mess. And as Professor Winston said about understanding "THIS IS HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS" And even the professors say it is baffling even them.

Jaysus. The English public. So important to get a Maccy D and go to Primark or die.lol
What do you expect given the example set by the people making the rules?

Just go on a jaunt to a tourist spot 30 minutes drive away on your wifes birthday to "test your eyesight"!

Super-rich-elite and can't find emergency child care in the largest city in the country? No problem, travel to the other end of the country and put your parents at risk instead!
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It is all annoyingly frustrating. Buying toasters and toys solves nothing.

It is because they have no answer. Sometihng to deflect from the Cummings debacle and a false bit of hope for everyone.Just for a week or so

Do something positive ! Not soundbites. Grrr

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Has he landed Anything positive in all his years as an advisor .....

maybe someone can tell us


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