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30 May 2018, 03:32 PM
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They are both are rape/sexual assault trials.
so where is the difference?
30 May 2018, 04:15 PM
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So are you saying a religion spreading from the Middle East is a bad thing?
Similarly the technology the Isreali's test on the indigenous Palestinians (on behalf of the west) should stop?
All religions are backward, give false hope to those at their most vulnerable and are as corrupt as any industrial/governmental organisation.
Tommy Robinson through his misguided judgement as f**ked himself in the grinner by contempt over a trial involving Asian men who undertook sexual abuse, rape and abuse to women/underage girls; the Catholic and Christian Churches have pretty much been doing this for years; boys or girls. Areas of the USA still allow marriage at 12 years old, surely this is abuse of children?
As usual the SN knuckle draggers and religious team have manipulated the story/arguments to their own agendas.
Similarly the technology the Isreali's test on the indigenous Palestinians (on behalf of the west) should stop?
All religions are backward, give false hope to those at their most vulnerable and are as corrupt as any industrial/governmental organisation.
Tommy Robinson through his misguided judgement as f**ked himself in the grinner by contempt over a trial involving Asian men who undertook sexual abuse, rape and abuse to women/underage girls; the Catholic and Christian Churches have pretty much been doing this for years; boys or girls. Areas of the USA still allow marriage at 12 years old, surely this is abuse of children?
As usual the SN knuckle draggers and religious team have manipulated the story/arguments to their own agendas.
30 May 2018, 06:12 PM
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Trooper, there’s an awful lot of conflation and straw to unpick here so may I ask that you put questions to me in a way that enables me to answer specifically. I’d also ask that we don’t turn this in to theism/atheism contest; in so doing we can avoid pages and pages of ‘debate’ that can’t be won or lost without establishing axioms. I trust you’re well and understand my reluctance to engage as the conversation stands.
Western faiths have just as many issues as those you castigate.
I'll keep it simple. If a similar muslim "spokesman" was highlighting the abhorrent crimes currently taking place by men of the Christian church would you agree with their cause? Because it is happening.
30 May 2018, 07:00 PM
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No I don't because you suggested a particular religion is bad because of what it's followers do.
Western faiths have just as many issues as those you castigate.
I'll keep it simple. If a similar muslim "spokesman" was highlighting the abhorrent crimes currently taking place by men of the Christian church would you agree with their cause? Because it is happening.
Western faiths have just as many issues as those you castigate.
I'll keep it simple. If a similar muslim "spokesman" was highlighting the abhorrent crimes currently taking place by men of the Christian church would you agree with their cause? Because it is happening.
I say Salafist Islamists who emulate Mohammad are evil because Mohammad was evil. I say that born-again, bible believing and obedient Christians are good because Jesus was and is good. This is objective truth.
If a person who identifies as a Christian rapes a child they have not done so because Jesus set the example, they have done so because they are paedophilic. If a Muslim man puts his erect ***** in to a nine year old girl’s vagina, he does so because the founder of Islam set the precedent.
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30 May 2018, 07:07 PM
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i love reading stuff like this thread it reminds me of just how far some lefties will go in life and conversation, some on here could be defence lawers for terrorists they are so good they could even come up with reasons why a fox was in a hen house, i can just hear them now well your honour its the farmers fault for providing a macdonalds for foxes and not locking the door and giving each hen a key, next thing will be well your honour it was the white kids parents fault for allowing her to leave the house
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30 May 2018, 07:49 PM
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farce behave it was wonderfull, watching the ones that just don't get it twisting words and statements, jt has got thier mark i used the word percentage of them he actually (being a man of god knows the real score its only 2 forms of thier beliefs that are extreem, watch the video i posted the ones that are here and like it are just the same only skint so they can't afford white hookers drugs and lifestyle the rich ones indulge in as part of thier aggreement with the amans
30 May 2018, 08:07 PM
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Mohammad married Aisha when she was six, the marriage was consummated when she was nine. Mohammad was a warmonger. Islam was spread by the sword etc. Jesus was celibate and was not a warmonger, in fact He said that His followers were and are to love their enemy. If you think that the historical Mohammad and the historical Jesus of Nazareth were cut from the same cloth, you are grossly mistaken. I will go so far as to say the two men were and are 180° opposed.
I say Salafist Islamists who emulate Mohammad are evil because Mohammad was evil. I say that born-again, bible believing and obedient Christians are good because Jesus was and is good. This is objective truth.
If a person who identifies as a Christian rapes a child they have not done so because Jesus set the example, they have done so because they are paedophilic. If a Muslim man puts his erect ***** in to a nine year old girl’s vagina, he does so because the founder of Islam set the precedent.
I say Salafist Islamists who emulate Mohammad are evil because Mohammad was evil. I say that born-again, bible believing and obedient Christians are good because Jesus was and is good. This is objective truth.
If a person who identifies as a Christian rapes a child they have not done so because Jesus set the example, they have done so because they are paedophilic. If a Muslim man puts his erect ***** in to a nine year old girl’s vagina, he does so because the founder of Islam set the precedent.
The bible also states 'an eye for an eye' hardly peace loving or anti-conflict.
Like Jesus, Mohammad is not proven by science or logic with no forensic proof of existence.
Therefore your submission is ultimately flawed because everything written in either of the religious books you quote from also remain unproven.
If any"God" is so powerful and wonderous why does he not stop all the heinous diseases, crimes or acts of abuse we see everyday?
It was Gods way is a pretty sh%t cop out excuse.
30 May 2018, 08:27 PM
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White Christian Americans are marrying 12 year old girls now. Is that right? Christian based law allows it.
The bible also states 'an eye for an eye' hardly peace loving or anti-conflict.
Like Jesus, Mohammad is not proven by science or logic with no forensic proof of existence.
Therefore your submission is ultimately flawed because everything written in either of the religious books you quote from also remain unproven.
If any"God" is so powerful and wonderous why does he not stop all the heinous diseases, crimes or acts of abuse we see everyday?
It was Gods way is a pretty sh%t cop out excuse.
The bible also states 'an eye for an eye' hardly peace loving or anti-conflict.
Like Jesus, Mohammad is not proven by science or logic with no forensic proof of existence.
Therefore your submission is ultimately flawed because everything written in either of the religious books you quote from also remain unproven.
If any"God" is so powerful and wonderous why does he not stop all the heinous diseases, crimes or acts of abuse we see everyday?
It was Gods way is a pretty sh%t cop out excuse.
god allows nasty people to be nasty so he can justify sending them to hell
same as god allows wars to happen so americans can learn geography
30 May 2018, 08:50 PM
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The bible also states 'an eye for an eye' hardly peace loving or anti-conflict.
Eye for Eye
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Like Jesus, Mohammad is not proven by science or logic with no forensic proof of existence.
Therefore your submission is ultimately flawed because everything written in either of the religious books you quote from also remain unproven.
If any"God" is so powerful and wonderous why does he not stop all the heinous diseases, crimes or acts of abuse we see everyday?
It was Gods way is a pretty sh%t cop out excuse.
It was Gods way is a pretty sh%t cop out excuse.
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30 May 2018, 10:08 PM
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Source please.
Matthew 5:38-48 New International Version (NIV)
Eye for Eye
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
That vast majority of historians, theist or otherwise, accept the historical existence of both. Their divinity is a matter of faith.
Okay, but there are billions who ‘believe’. We have to accept that reality and look at the outcomes of said belief in order to move forward with the discussion. Not doing so leads to the kind of circular argument you’re employing.
This is commonly known as the ‘problem of evil’ and I have discussed it from a Christian perspective countless times on this board. I recommend reading The Problem of Pain by C.S.Lewis. I have a copy that I can post to you if you’re willing to educate yourself regarding this subject.
Matthew 5:38-48 New International Version (NIV)
Eye for Eye
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
That vast majority of historians, theist or otherwise, accept the historical existence of both. Their divinity is a matter of faith.
Okay, but there are billions who ‘believe’. We have to accept that reality and look at the outcomes of said belief in order to move forward with the discussion. Not doing so leads to the kind of circular argument you’re employing.
This is commonly known as the ‘problem of evil’ and I have discussed it from a Christian perspective countless times on this board. I recommend reading The Problem of Pain by C.S.Lewis. I have a copy that I can post to you if you’re willing to educate yourself regarding this subject.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_..._United_States
I wonder if CS Lewis was taking the same drugs we he wrote "Alice in Wonderland"?
30 May 2018, 10:34 PM
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Massachusetts as a 12 years of age limit. Some states don't have one.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_..._United_States
I wonder if CS Lewis was taking the same drugs we he wrote "Alice in Wonderland"?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_..._United_States
I wonder if CS Lewis was taking the same drugs we he wrote "Alice in Wonderland"?
With regards your source, I’m not sure what it proves in terms of comparing Christianity with Islam. Please elucidate.
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Mohammad married Aisha when she was six, the marriage was consummated when she was nine. Mohammad was a warmonger. Islam was spread by the sword etc. Jesus was celibate and was not a warmonger, in fact He said that His followers were and are to love their enemy. If you think that the historical Mohammad and the historical Jesus of Nazareth were cut from the same cloth, you are grossly mistaken. I will go so far as to say the two men were and are 180° opposed.
I say Salafist Islamists who emulate Mohammad are evil because Mohammad was evil. I say that born-again, bible believing and obedient Christians are good because Jesus was and is good. This is objective truth.
If a person who identifies as a Christian rapes a child they have not done so because Jesus set the example, they have done so because they are paedophilic. If a Muslim man puts his erect ***** in to a nine year old girl’s vagina, he does so because the founder of Islam set the precedent.
I say Salafist Islamists who emulate Mohammad are evil because Mohammad was evil. I say that born-again, bible believing and obedient Christians are good because Jesus was and is good. This is objective truth.
If a person who identifies as a Christian rapes a child they have not done so because Jesus set the example, they have done so because they are paedophilic. If a Muslim man puts his erect ***** in to a nine year old girl’s vagina, he does so because the founder of Islam set the precedent.
30 May 2018, 11:19 PM
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i love reading stuff like this thread it reminds me of just how far some lefties will go in life and conversation, some on here could be defence lawers for terrorists they are so good they could even come up with reasons why a fox was in a hen house, i can just hear them now well your honour its the farmers fault for providing a macdonalds for foxes and not locking the door and giving each hen a key, next thing will be well your honour it was the white kids parents fault for allowing her to leave the house
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Furthermore, given that we appear to be engaged in a game of Abrahamic Top Trumps, it’s worth considering that Mohammad leads and has led billions to ‘Jahannam’ owing to his false prophecy.
The bible states absolutely clearly that it is through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone that one is assured of salvation. To keep this truth from our friends and neighbours in the Ummah is to condemn them.
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Mohammad married Aisha when she was six, the marriage was consummated when she was nine. Mohammad was a warmonger. Islam was spread by the sword etc. Jesus was celibate and was not a warmonger, in fact He said that His followers were and are to love their enemy. If you think that the historical Mohammad and the historical Jesus of Nazareth were cut from the same cloth, you are grossly mistaken. I will go so far as to say the two men were and are 180° opposed.
That is of course if we are assuming that we're discussing two different people and not simply two different peoples views of the same person...