Tommy Robinson
29 May 2018, 11:01 PM
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A company is not going to be super excited to publicise someone managing to steal millions from them, whatever the race.
And yes, whatever the person did, it doesn't mean someone can go and call them a P#$i - race has nothing to do with it.
29 May 2018, 11:06 PM
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Islamism, particularly Wahhabism (Salafism) ought to be extirpated from the West. The former is utterly, evidently and undeniably incompatible with the latter. That the western world crosses the House of Saud’s palm with glistening petrodollars and that those same petrodollars are then used to pump this cancerous ideology back into its customers’ home is a tragicomedy of such epic proportions that The Winter’s Tale is rendered weak in comparison.
Robinson gets this, but he’s low hanging fruit ripe for public picking by those who benefit from maintaining the status quo. Thankfully, there are movements quietly going about the business of defending the realm, standing firm at the gates of Vienna.
Get educated and do your bit.
Robinson gets this, but he’s low hanging fruit ripe for public picking by those who benefit from maintaining the status quo. Thankfully, there are movements quietly going about the business of defending the realm, standing firm at the gates of Vienna.
Get educated and do your bit.
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29 May 2018, 11:10 PM
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Islamism, particularly Wahhabism (Salafism) ought to be extirpated from the West. The former is utterly, evidently and undeniably incompatible with the latter. That the western world crosses the House of Saud’s palm with glistening petrodollars and that those same petrodollars are then used to pump this cancerous ideology back into its customers’ home is a tragicomedy of such epic proportions that The Winter’s Tale is rendered weak in comparison.
Robinson gets this, but he’s low hanging fruit ripe for public picking by those who benefit from maintaining the status quo. Thankfully, there are movements quietly going about the business of defending the realm, standing firm at the gates of Vienna.
Get educated and do your bit.
Robinson gets this, but he’s low hanging fruit ripe for public picking by those who benefit from maintaining the status quo. Thankfully, there are movements quietly going about the business of defending the realm, standing firm at the gates of Vienna.
Get educated and do your bit.
'Expatriated', how exactly?
29 May 2018, 11:16 PM
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You're making it about race.
A company is not going to be super excited to publicise someone managing to steal millions from them, whatever the race.
And yes, whatever the person did, it doesn't mean someone can go and call them a P#$i - race has nothing to do with it.
A company is not going to be super excited to publicise someone managing to steal millions from them, whatever the race.
And yes, whatever the person did, it doesn't mean someone can go and call them a P#$i - race has nothing to do with it.
the simple fact is a percentage of them hate us and our way of life and vice versa and no amount of leftie luvvy luvvy goverment intervention is ever going to change that, its a bit like the forced social intergration thing they have going on at the moment,in this country build 100 new houses no problem mr rich developer but 25 of them must be social housing so we can house druggies and thieves, at least in the state you get to say no to this sort of thing or am i wrong i thought you had some say on how your taxs where spent
29 May 2018, 11:18 PM
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Islamism, particularly Wahhabism (Salafism) ought to be extirpated from the West. The former is utterly, evidently and undeniably incompatible with the latter. That the western world crosses the House of Saud’s palm with glistening petrodollars and that those same petrodollars are then used to pump this cancerous ideology back into its customers’ home is a tragicomedy of such epic proportions that The Winter’s Tale is rendered weak in comparison.
Robinson gets this, but he’s low hanging fruit ripe for public picking by those who benefit from maintaining the status quo. Thankfully, there are movements quietly going about the business of defending the realm, standing firm at the gates of Vienna.
Get educated and do your bit.
Robinson gets this, but he’s low hanging fruit ripe for public picking by those who benefit from maintaining the status quo. Thankfully, there are movements quietly going about the business of defending the realm, standing firm at the gates of Vienna.
Get educated and do your bit.
29 May 2018, 11:19 PM
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no ime not how naive can people be, if he was any other colour he would be in nick by now,one of the girls in sales called ranni even said he exploited his race
the simple fact is a percentage of them hate us and our way of life and vice versa and no amount of leftie luvvy luvvy goverment intervention is ever going to change that, its a bit like the forced social intergration thing they have going on at the moment,in this country build 100 new houses no problem mr rich developer but 25 of them must be social housing so we can house druggies and thieves, at least in the state you get to say no to this sort of thing or am i wrong i thought you had some say on how your taxs where spent
the simple fact is a percentage of them hate us and our way of life and vice versa and no amount of leftie luvvy luvvy goverment intervention is ever going to change that, its a bit like the forced social intergration thing they have going on at the moment,in this country build 100 new houses no problem mr rich developer but 25 of them must be social housing so we can house druggies and thieves, at least in the state you get to say no to this sort of thing or am i wrong i thought you had some say on how your taxs where spent
Oh hang on, that might not be entirely true
29 May 2018, 11:21 PM
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) Genuinely interested in where this is coming from.
29 May 2018, 11:24 PM
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no ime not how naive can people be, if he was any other colour he would be in nick by now,one of the girls in sales called ranni even said he exploited his race
the simple fact is a percentage of them hate us and our way of life and vice versa and no amount of leftie luvvy luvvy goverment intervention is ever going to change that, its a bit like the forced social intergration thing they have going on at the moment,in this country build 100 new houses no problem mr rich developer but 25 of them must be social housing so we can house druggies and thieves, at least in the state you get to say no to this sort of thing or am i wrong i thought you had some say on how your taxs where spent
the simple fact is a percentage of them hate us and our way of life and vice versa and no amount of leftie luvvy luvvy goverment intervention is ever going to change that, its a bit like the forced social intergration thing they have going on at the moment,in this country build 100 new houses no problem mr rich developer but 25 of them must be social housing so we can house druggies and thieves, at least in the state you get to say no to this sort of thing or am i wrong i thought you had some say on how your taxs where spent
The rest of it smacks of exactly what I was talking about WASP's with a grudge against the world and what it owes them that they never got.
Right, must dash. Might pop on later, or I will catch up on the fun tomorrow
30 May 2018, 12:10 AM
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Salafist Jihadis (who to their credit seek to emulate their prophet, albeit in error) are entreated to conquer the West by all means necessary and it is therefore incumbent upon all those with the eyes to see and the ears hear to resist. Love is the central tenet of Christianity, but we are not to allow evil to prevail. I pray that there will be a reformation of sorts within Islam and that a non-violent solution can be found. Sadly, I am pessimistic about this materialising. If one looks far enough in to the future they will see increased civil unrest and worse. Those who share Judeo-Christian origins and those who wish to protect that heritage are to learn about their enemy, love them if possible and, if absolutely necessary, take up arms against them in defence of the bloodline.
The writing’s on the wall and as such my loyalty is to Jesus, the Crown and our future generations. Apathy is not an option.
30 May 2018, 12:44 AM
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30 May 2018, 07:38 AM
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Well I disagree. I don't believe somebody like that has any chance of integrating or playing any useful part in UK society. No chance of getting a job that's for sure.
This is so called multiculturalism at its very worst. When lots immigrants came from Pakistan in the 60s it was very unusual to see this kind of attire (Burkha)
The influence of Wahhabism means that it is far more common now to see it now.
The ladies might have been dressed in traditional Indian/pakistani clothes but not burkhas. This meant they could actually interact with their neighbours and many found employment in factories etc.
So they not only found gainful employment and became economically active but they integrated.
So rather than integration there are sections of the Muslim community headed in the opposite direction.
30 May 2018, 07:42 AM
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ok, you seem to be misunderstanding what I am saying - yes, he is outwardly specifying his hatred, intolerance or whatever you would like to call it, on Islam, a faith. This, in my view and many others, seems to be a smart way of repackaging his racism and anger and redirecting it towards another group - when he directs his hatred towards entire regions or countries of people he is still being racist.
Whatever he packages himself as, he won't escape the fact that he is a racist. Now, he is also intolerant of religions outside of Christianity or Atheism - the reasons behind that are not for the good of the human race...
P.S. I appreciate that many terms are mislabeled and misused, by me included. Doesn't excuse the nastiness behind this chaps actions. So I get what your saying
Whatever he packages himself as, he won't escape the fact that he is a racist. Now, he is also intolerant of religions outside of Christianity or Atheism - the reasons behind that are not for the good of the human race...
P.S. I appreciate that many terms are mislabeled and misused, by me included. Doesn't excuse the nastiness behind this chaps actions. So I get what your saying
I'm not defending the man but for the sake of accuracy please provide evidence that he is 'intolerant of religions outside of Christianity and atheism'
I have heard him say quite the opposite about Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jews etc
30 May 2018, 09:20 AM
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Islamism, particularly Wahhabism (Salafism) ought to be extirpated from the West. The former is utterly, evidently and undeniably incompatible with the latter. That the western world crosses the House of Saud’s palm with glistening petrodollars and that those same petrodollars are then used to pump this cancerous ideology back into its customers’ home is a tragicomedy of such epic proportions that The Winter’s Tale is rendered weak in comparison.
Robinson gets this, but he’s low hanging fruit ripe for public picking by those who benefit from maintaining the status quo. Thankfully, there are movements quietly going about the business of defending the realm, standing firm at the gates of Vienna.
Get educated and do your bit.
Robinson gets this, but he’s low hanging fruit ripe for public picking by those who benefit from maintaining the status quo. Thankfully, there are movements quietly going about the business of defending the realm, standing firm at the gates of Vienna.
Get educated and do your bit.
Similarly the technology the Isreali's test on the indigenous Palestinians (on behalf of the west) should stop?
All religions are backward, give false hope to those at their most vulnerable and are as corrupt as any industrial/governmental organisation.
Tommy Robinson through his misguided judgement as f**ked himself in the grinner by contempt over a trial involving Asian men who undertook sexual abuse, rape and abuse to women/underage girls; the Catholic and Christian Churches have pretty much been doing this for years; boys or girls. Areas of the USA still allow marriage at 12 years old, surely this is abuse of children?
As usual the SN knuckle draggers and religious team have manipulated the story/arguments to their own agendas.
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30 May 2018, 10:17 AM
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As far as I am concerned there is no argument about that. He broke the law and deserves what he got. He was in contempt of court, nothing to do with free speech.
30 May 2018, 10:24 AM
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Banny, I will watch that later but I'd be genuinely interested in your opinion on the influence of Wahhabism in the UK.
I'm guessing I'm at least 10 years older than you. When I think back to my childhood I couldn't tell the Pakistani women from the Indian, they all dressed alike. I don't remember ever seeing a woman in a Burkha to the best of my recollection.
Pakistani and Indian men dressed smartly, often in suits when they went out (so that they wouldn't be looked down upon of course)
Now I see Burkhas all over the place and young men in the middle of the day in more Arabic (?) looking dress.
Is this a positive step forward for the community?
30 May 2018, 11:09 AM
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First, Muslims do not follow Islam, they follow Mohammad. Secondly, Salafists account for approximately 1% of the world’s Muslim population. If the remaining 99% wish to practice their ‘faith’ peacefully and pursue spiritual goals then I am to break bread with them and love them as commanded by the Christ. I would be bound to tell them, however, that their prophet is false and I would seek to point out that their salvation can be found only by trusting in Jesus of Nazerath.
Salafist Jihadis (who to their credit seek to emulate their prophet, albeit in error) are entreated to conquer the West by all means necessary and it is therefore incumbent upon all those with the eyes to see and the ears hear to resist. Love is the central tenet of Christianity, but we are not to allow evil to prevail. I pray that there will be a reformation of sorts within Islam and that a non-violent solution can be found. Sadly, I am pessimistic about this materialising. If one looks far enough in to the future they will see increased civil unrest and worse. Those who share Judeo-Christian origins and those who wish to protect that heritage are to learn about their enemy, love them if possible and, if absolutely necessary, take up arms against them in defence of the bloodline.
The writing’s on the wall and as such my loyalty is to Jesus, the Crown and our future generations. Apathy is not an option.
Salafist Jihadis (who to their credit seek to emulate their prophet, albeit in error) are entreated to conquer the West by all means necessary and it is therefore incumbent upon all those with the eyes to see and the ears hear to resist. Love is the central tenet of Christianity, but we are not to allow evil to prevail. I pray that there will be a reformation of sorts within Islam and that a non-violent solution can be found. Sadly, I am pessimistic about this materialising. If one looks far enough in to the future they will see increased civil unrest and worse. Those who share Judeo-Christian origins and those who wish to protect that heritage are to learn about their enemy, love them if possible and, if absolutely necessary, take up arms against them in defence of the bloodline.
The writing’s on the wall and as such my loyalty is to Jesus, the Crown and our future generations. Apathy is not an option.
So what exactly do you advocate
30 May 2018, 11:42 AM
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Why is it acceptable for mainstream press to post info about accusations, trials, etc about celebs but not in this case?
knowing a group of blokes are accused of raping and grooming dozens if not hundreds of girls is far more in the public interest than a celeb accused of grabbing another celebs *** 30 years ago, yet no restrictions are placed on that.
Double standards are being set about what is and isn't free speech.
How about next your are no longer allowed to say things bad about the government?
30 May 2018, 11:52 AM
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It has everything to do with free speech.
Why is it acceptable for mainstream press to post info about accusations, trials, etc about celebs but not in this case?
knowing a group of blokes are accused of raping and grooming dozens if not hundreds of girls is far more in the public interest than a celeb accused of grabbing another celebs *** 30 years ago, yet no restrictions are placed on that.
Double standards are being set about what is and isn't free speech.
How about next your are no longer allowed to say things bad about the government?
Why is it acceptable for mainstream press to post info about accusations, trials, etc about celebs but not in this case?
knowing a group of blokes are accused of raping and grooming dozens if not hundreds of girls is far more in the public interest than a celeb accused of grabbing another celebs *** 30 years ago, yet no restrictions are placed on that.
Double standards are being set about what is and isn't free speech.
How about next your are no longer allowed to say things bad about the government?
Have you not listened to the news were there have been cases running for weeks or months and only at the verdict have the reporting restrictions been lifted?
30 May 2018, 11:57 AM
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I am not sure what your obsession with celebrity is but restricted reporting occurs way more times for "non-celebs" than it does for them. Most of the time the restriction is to protect the victims identity.
Have you not listened to the news were there have been cases running for weeks or months and only at the verdict have the reporting restrictions been lifted?
Have you not listened to the news were there have been cases running for weeks or months and only at the verdict have the reporting restrictions been lifted?
30 May 2018, 12:05 PM
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It has everything to do with free speech.
Why is it acceptable for mainstream press to post info about accusations, trials, etc about celebs but not in this case?
knowing a group of blokes are accused of raping and grooming dozens if not hundreds of girls is far more in the public interest than a celeb accused of grabbing another celebs *** 30 years ago, yet no restrictions are placed on that.
Double standards are being set about what is and isn't free speech.
How about next your are no longer allowed to say things bad about the government?
Why is it acceptable for mainstream press to post info about accusations, trials, etc about celebs but not in this case?
knowing a group of blokes are accused of raping and grooming dozens if not hundreds of girls is far more in the public interest than a celeb accused of grabbing another celebs *** 30 years ago, yet no restrictions are placed on that.
Double standards are being set about what is and isn't free speech.
How about next your are no longer allowed to say things bad about the government?
30 May 2018, 12:10 PM
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With respect, you're missing the point here. There were reporting restrictions in place (which "Tommy Robinson" was clearly in breach of) for a very good reason, the trial of the rapists could have collapsed due to possible influence on jurors, which would be contempt of court and result in the victims being let down and the accusers potentially being acquitted. At best, it could mean a costly and time consuming re-trial. It's the rule of law in this country that everyone has the right to a fair trial. This also works in the favour of victims. Many rape trials have been aborted due to the letter of the law not being followed, also cases of FGM. It's nothing to do with free speech, and everything to do with upholding the British legal system and allowing justice to be done.
It's almost as though Robinson wanted the trial to collapse...
30 May 2018, 01:19 PM
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With respect, you're missing the point here. There were reporting restrictions in place (which "Tommy Robinson" was clearly in breach of) for a very good reason, the trial of the rapists could have collapsed due to possible influence on jurors, which would be contempt of court and result in the victims being let down and the accusers potentially being acquitted. At best, it could mean a costly and time consuming re-trial. It's the rule of law in this country that everyone has the right to a fair trial. This also works in the favour of victims. Many rape trials have been aborted due to the letter of the law not being followed, also cases of FGM. It's nothing to do with free speech, and everything to do with upholding the British legal system and allowing justice to be done.
why are there restrictions in place in the first place with this case, but not in others? i Use celebs as an example because they hit national mainstream headlines which is going to be far more influencing than some racist posing as a wanna be jurno on FB.
30 May 2018, 02:56 PM
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no i havn't missed the point all, you've missed what im saying.
why are there restrictions in place in the first place with this case, but not in others? i Use celebs as an example because they hit national mainstream headlines which is going to be far more influencing than some racist posing as a wanna be jurno on FB.
why are there restrictions in place in the first place with this case, but not in others? i Use celebs as an example because they hit national mainstream headlines which is going to be far more influencing than some racist posing as a wanna be jurno on FB.