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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BlkKnight
What's the warranty length on an iPhone? It's two years on the S7/8.

I'm still getting OS updated on the wife's S5.
"The Apple Limited Warranty covers your product and Apple-branded accessories against manufacturing defects for one year from the date you bought them. Our warranty is in addition to rights provided by consumer law."

Pretty sure Electronics are covered for two years, seen replacements way beyond a year.

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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 01:29 PM
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"The Apple Limited Warranty covers your product and Apple-branded accessories against manufacturing defects for one year from the date you bought them. Our warranty is in addition to rights provided by consumer law."

Pretty sure Electronics are covered for two years, seen replacements way beyond a year.
Depends what it is, phones are typically covered for the length of the contract you take out. If its unfixable they will provide you with one, although it may well be recon'd not new.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 02:14 PM
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I might jump ship this year and go for the OnePlus 5, depends on how much Apple will charge for their new phones or whether there is a worthwhile reduction to their existing iPhones.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 02:33 PM
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I might jump ship this year and go for the OnePlus 5, depends on how much Apple will charge for their new phones or whether there is a worthwhile reduction to their existing iPhones.
heard $1000 mentioned
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 02:54 PM
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Depends what it is, phones are typically covered for the length of the contract you take out. If its unfixable they will provide you with one, although it may well be recon'd not new.
Past a year you're definitely getting a recon unit from Apple, unless you really kiss butt.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
I might jump ship this year and go for the OnePlus 5, depends on how much Apple will charge for their new phones or whether there is a worthwhile reduction to their existing iPhones.
My 6+ was £750 3 years ago, I'd expect to pay £100 more for similar.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
I might jump ship this year and go for the OnePlus 5, depends on how much Apple will charge for their new phones or whether there is a worthwhile reduction to their existing iPhones.


I went from an iPhone to a OnePlus X, when this phone eventually gives up I'll be looking at getting another OnePlus. Not much I can fault it on.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 04:10 PM
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I've done exactly the same. I've got an iPhone 6 and got fed up with paying £54 a month. Went sim only and I'm paying £24 a month now with more internet browsing also, no brained !. And you're right, phones are not improving in my eyes.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 04:28 PM
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Looks like the "new" iPhone willl be the iPhone X, which will have the reported new features.

The iphone 8 is going to be a slight redesign on the 7 but with a glass back & wireless charging, and not much else changed.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 05:57 PM
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I cant quite imagine how its even possible to pay 54 quid a month for an iPhone 6 / contract
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 06:22 PM
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I cant quite imagine how its even possible to pay 54 quid a month for an iPhone 6 / contract
Let me help. Pick a telephone contract and make a mental note of it's monthly cost, round it up to make it easier, more of that later. Now take the cost of an iPhone divide it by how long you want to pay for it, make a note of that number, round it up a bit. Oops, you don't have any money!! What! OK, round up those numbers a bit more and get a loan. That's it really.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 06:26 PM
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Welll, I was assuming he was on a 24 month contract inc phone
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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My 6+ was £750 3 years ago, I'd expect to pay £100 more for similar.
I paid around £500 for my 6, I can't justify forking out twice that for any phone. Let's see how much they reduce the 7/7+ when the 8 is announced. Judging by how much they "reduced" the 6s/6s+ I'm not keeping my hopes up for a decent reduction.
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Originally Posted by jonc
I paid around £500 for my 6, I can't justify forking out twice that for any phone. Let's see how much they reduce the 7/7+ when the 8 is announced. Judging by how much they "reduced" the 6s/6s+ I'm not keeping my hopes up for a decent reduction.
The price hasn't doubled since the 6, it was expensive too. They definitely won't start at £1000 but I won't be surprised if one goes over. Good memory isn't cheap.
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What ???!
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Originally Posted by JackClark
The price hasn't doubled since the 6, it was expensive too. They definitely won't start at £1000 but I won't be surprised if one goes over. Good memory isn't cheap.

BBC news says the iPhone 8 will be the first phone to break the £1k mark. I definitely won't be getting one at that price.
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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 10:14 PM
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Both the iPhone 8 and X were a bit of an anti-climax. The 8 being the same as the 7 of the previous year except for a slightly faster cpu and a glass back and the X same as the 8 except for the bigger screen and Face ID. I want a bigger screen phone (my eyes aren't what they use to be!) so considering the 8 plus 64GB but it's significantly heavier than the 7 plus and a lot more expensive.....
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Originally Posted by stevebt
BBC news says the iPhone 8 will be the first phone to break the £1k mark. I definitely won't be getting one at that price.
£999 for the 64GB, ouch. Not sure I can go over 1k. I'm pissed they don't have 128GB.
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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 11:13 PM
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They probably sussed nobody would fork out 1500 for it !
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 07:15 AM
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I've reached my cost limit with phones of £600. My S8+ I bought in from Hong Kong is the higher spec with 6gb ram dual SIM/SD card. It has 128gb on board and further 256gb card. It lasts the whole day and has a beautiful screen an take great photos. Don't need anything more
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Originally Posted by JackClark
£999 for the 64GB, ouch. Not sure I can go over 1k. I'm pissed they don't have 128GB.
I really can't see how they justify it. There doesn't seem to be anything in the spec that makes it stand out as being worth that much more than the competition.
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 08:27 AM
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I really can't see how they justify it. There doesn't seem to be anything in the spec that makes it stand out as being worth that much more than the competition.
It is hard. If Samsung came along and developed a CPU and GPU that were twice as powerful as the iPhone then it would be expensive, seen as ground breaking an due to the massive investment worth it. Apple produce something twice as fast as its own products which isn't so easy to grasp.

There's a lot of new tech, the face scanning blew me away, that level of innovation isn't cheap. You can't compare it to scanning a photo.

I can't get the 64GB, want the X and might just blow £1150 on it, blimey that hurts just saying but it does get more use than my Laptop.
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 09:02 AM
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have to say nothing mega special about the new one, face recognition is interesting, but seen various comments from press people who have actually used it saying it's not 100% effective when they tried it, price is just silly and thats the only two real highlights.
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Are you saying new iPhone is 2x fast as S8 , using same components

Or 2x as fast as previous iPhone.

Either way I think I'd suffer slightly less speed and take Andy's phone , at half the price !
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In certain areas the iPhone is more than 2x as fast as the S8, it's 2x as fast as the iPhone 7. Of course it doesn't have the same components, Apple don't license their mobile chipset.

The S8 is a great device and I'm sure you'll be happy with it as Andy is, but it doesn't run iOS so it's out.

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Sigh, no sign of a smaller sized phone, according to Cnet, X is even larger!

Now wondering if I should just buy the retro Nokia or something like a Jelly 4G for the phone stuff, Ditch the iPhone and just use a iPad for all the other stuff.

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The X is smaller than the 8+ and has a bigger screen. Perfect for you.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
It is hard. If Samsung came along and developed a CPU and GPU that were twice as powerful as the iPhone then it would be expensive, seen as ground breaking an due to the massive investment worth it. Apple produce something twice as fast as its own products which isn't so easy to grasp.

There's a lot of new tech, the face scanning blew me away, that level of innovation isn't cheap. You can't compare it to scanning a photo.

I can't get the 64GB, want the X and might just blow £1150 on it, blimey that hurts just saying but it does get more use than my Laptop.
My problem with that kind of spend on a phone (any phone), is they just don't have the life expectancy that other similarly-priced gadgets have; phones get dropped, sat on, rained on, thrown in bags, bashed against stuff, etc etc, and unlike clamshell laptops don't have as much inherent protection. Getting 2 years out of a phone is considered good going, and if you tell someone you have a 3- or even 4-year old phone they ask if you've wrapped it in cotton wool and/or are just a luddite.

The other problem is the same that the desktop/laptop market hit a while back; most phones are already 'fast enough'. Having twice the horsepower in a phone doesn't mean much when you weren't using all you had anyway, so the idea of paying to get something faster doesn't sit well.

This is then all multiplied by the fact that phone improvements are reasonably 'incremental' these days; it's been a long time since something truly revolutionary happened, and spending a grand to get a slightly larger display or a slightly niftier fingerprint scanner isn't particularly attractive.

I considered the £500 for my Nexus 6p about as much as I was comfortable with, and felt the £700 for the Pixel XL was excessive. It's not that I can't afford it, I just find the idea of a grand on any phone deeply objectionable - if the Pixel 2 isn't reasonably priced, I'll probably skip two generations for once, an approach I'm unlikely to be alone in!
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S'Marketing innit

if it wasn't outrageous price your apple customer wouldn't be happy , feel something was wrong
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