Kwik

iTrader: (10)

The point is you start to learn to look into things yourself. Google is your friend.
Had you looked into the trump 'sweden' quote you would have realised it was false before regurgitating it yourself.
And remember this is the BBC, paid for by the tax payer. It has a duty to be impartial. What is the agenda of those without the duty to be impartial?.

dpb

youre going to use that clip to claim bbc are extreme left wing, aernt you

LOL

dpb

Id suggest you do something more useful with your time . Difficult ,probably , if youre stuck in front screen day in day out

dpb

Mus be end shift , time for bus home . Days wages stolen from your employer

Martin2005

The Trump story isn't false, it's absolutely solid, and you've done zero prove otherwise - and yet you claim to had done so

Kwik

iTrader: (10)

The clip summarises you.
You honestly think the right wing
media is biased but the left isn't. You're so deluded when you're told something you aren't inquisitive enough to find out for yourself.

Hopefully there's some seed of doubt in your mind and you might be more objective in future. Until next time.

Sad Weevil

iTrader: (1)

No it isn't. It's the way of extreme *********. If you check out the context and back story to this vid, you'd know that this isn't just some random peaceful chap holding up a sign. He's a mover shaker in the far right movement, deliberately provoking a reaction. He is being attacked by a mob of uncivilised stupid ********* from the far left, who refuse to engage in constructive discussion, and resort to physical violence. To suggest that this represents how all people with left-leaning opinions behave, is as wrong as suggesting all people who have right-leaning opinions are knuckle dragging racists and fascists.

dpb

I kind of guessed this would be the case

So , as expected , kwiks just being a ***t as usual

dpb

and not in a good way

hodgy0_2

and the poster of the video - SSG Joe Biggs

is just another extreme right wing loon who reports (or used to) for Infowars and prisonplanet

Infowars (& Prison Planet) is a batsh1t crazy conspiracy site run by Alex Jones - a fvcking fruitcake who peddles

911 Conspiracy [yawn]

Chemtrails - yes, they believe aeroplanes are spraying us with chemicals

Sandy Hook Hoax - perhaps the most pernicious, grieving parents where just making it up etc and no children died

Boston Marathon bombing - Hoax obviously

San Bernardino Shooting - Hoax obviously

Climate Change / AGW - Hoax Obviously

the list is actually endless


they are serious fruitcakes no wonder they think David Icke is the Messiah (a regular on Infowars)

they are called Crank Magnets for good reason

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crank_magnetism

they give rise to the joke

A climate change denier, Brexiteer and Agenda 21 conspiracy theorist walk in to a bar


he orders a drink



here is Alex Jones - the fun starts at 4 mins


what is fun is that he is going through a divorce at the moment, court papers filed by his wife claim he is a shouty crackpot and should not have custody of his children

The defence filed by his attorney is that it is all and act and he just bull****ting willing "sheeple" who watch his videos and buy his crap

these idiots are just not worth engaging with tbh

Martin2005

Brilliant!

Kwik and/or Alkazar will be along soon to explain that it's not his fault, it's the left that made him like he is.

dpb

Thought Alcazar was smarter tbh

Sad Weevil

iTrader: (1)

Alex Jones makes a living out of regurgitating old conspiracy theories that have been knocking around for at least 40 years, and presenting them as being news. He's a bit late to that party, same as David Icke. And man, does he shout a lot.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

No-one is suggesting that ALL people who even lean to the left, sad as they may be, would behave like this.

But it IS prevalanet among the left and liberals, the very people who shout about freedoms. yet they would use voilence to stop others having the right to say what they want to say.

Hypocrites.

dpb

You were duped, by someone who spends all his ill gotten time trying persude the world moderate lefts are actually destroying the world !

Sad Weevil

iTrader: (1)

That is a complete falsehood. Are you really suggesting that violence is prevalent among members of the Labour Party and Green Party?

Martin2005

Yes that's exactly what he and Kwik have been saying - and if you argue with them, then you are a lefty shouting them down.

Sad Weevil

iTrader: (1)

But that's exactly what you suggested. Quote: "it's the left-liberal way".
All this is pretty funny coming from someone who's solution to the problems in Calais was, and I quote: "shoot 'em".

neil-h

Well i think we've finally got to the bottom of the issue It's the hypocrisy that upsets you, nothing to do with the politics.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Among their supporters, yes. How many times do you see them resort to violence when they cannot silence their opposition any other way?
And do we see the so-called far-right do the same? No chance, there'd be an outcry.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Can you really deny that the left have been responsible for more violence against their opponents than have the right, over, say, the last ten years?***
Can you deny that the left are the ones who DO use any means to remove the platform from those who do not share their views?

As for the mess at Calais: what else are you going to do with economic migrants who enter Europe illegally, cross half Europe before trying to get in here, illegally? And after destroying their papers?

No...really, I jest...shooting's too good for 'em.

*** BTW: if you'd like to go back a bit further, let's compare how many people were murdered by the ***** to the number murdered by Uncle Joe? LOL

Always the lefty way.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Well, you are safe then. you don't argue, you just say, "No, no, no it isn't".

Martin2005

whatever

JTaylor

There's little or no substance here from either side of the 'debate'. There must be something upon which you chaps can agree? It is true that the far-left shutdown debate and that this has led to a ground swell in support for the right, however the left's tactic of enforcing political correctness has meant we now live in world where the language of division is less prevalent. This is a good thing. Having said that, the left should tolerate the right; they should discuss, educate, understand and, dare I say it, love. It is the language of compassion on both sides that will lead to radical changes in our society, a society where truth springs from argument amongst friends.

We're only here for a short time, cyber buddies, let's try to make some progress.

Sad Weevil

iTrader: (1)

I'm so confused. I was told that lefties were lentil-eating, tree hugging, appeasing, cowardly pacifists, but really, they're disciples of Stalin. Glad I've been put right.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

That's OK sad weevil, you had to learn some time.

just don't let it grind you down.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

I actually agree with that.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

See?

dpb

Too much mixed up evangelising .

kwik should been banned already

Kwik

iTrader: (10)

Lol. So we've managed to go full circle. Lefty maniacs do exist, as are shown in the original video and several links I provided.
The right maniacs are just as bad.
Dialogue is the important thing but there can't be dialogue if the left continue to attempt to shut down opinion that differs from their own. Shutting down would also include ignoring a certain media or person/organisation providing information based on their political view.

If we we agree there are left maniacs and right maniacs but also agree that there are 'softer' persons on the left, wouldn't brand people **** for no reason, shout people down or be violent towards them.
Is there a possibility then of people believing that those that are a part of britains first but aren't violent aren't actually moronic but honest decent people with a different political opinion?. Could the likes of Tommy Robinson have a point sometimes?

Shouldnt we then get informatiom from from both sides and come to a decent conclusion rather than either side denying any credibility in the opposing side?.

Pretty much what ive been saying for Christ knows how long.