Holding a sign is racist
 

https://youtu.be/tWFMUIP3lHo

Anti facist, anti hate demonstrators who are rallying for equality, free speech and democracy verbally abuse and threaten chap holding up a sign that says 'The right to openly discuss ideas must be defended.'

Modern britain. It doesn't appear to have been covered in the main stream media though, wonder why?.

Why havnt you been banned

But he has a point.

I may not agree with what you say, but I would fight to defend your right to say it.

Do you mean why is my right to openly discuss ideas not been shut down by the establishment yet?.

Free speech is what this society is about. As long obviously as it's not hate speech.
Attempting to stop a person having the right to free speech, for example calling for them to be banned is the epitome of bigotry.

Why not?

Lol, ok I'll play along. I think we have enough of a problem allowing free speech with restrictions let alone without.

There is certain irony in the outrage you show at such incidents

I'm not outraged, it's par for the course.
The irony would lie in the surrounding of a peaceful protester and the aggression and hatred shown by the multiple people attempting to quash the opinion of said person. Much like what is shown in the video .

It's the left-liberal way.

First you shout down. Then you label, and insult .
If that fails, you verbally, then physically attack.

At ALL COSTS, you MUST deny freedom of speech to your opponents...while banging on about all other freedoms.:rolleyes:

Have a quick search on how many times left-supporting groups resorted to violence in the past couple of years, here, the US, France, Germany..the list goes on.

Yet Martin quickly labels the right as "knuckle dragging imbeciles".

There's none so blind...

Even holding a mirror up to them seems to have no effect.
Ive had quite a few debates, been called names, unhinged, insinuated I'm racist and anti 'muzzie'.
Usually it's just me up against 4 or 5 coming under quite an unpleasant attack.

Show them a video like this, peaceful protester in the corner with different but not controversial views with an aggressive, abusive mob surrounding him in numbers and they don't seem to be able to see the similarities.

I literally feel like this is the matrix, and 'some minds are too far gone to be unplugged'.

Absolutely, often turning a peaceful protest or demonstration into violence and disorder. They almost always cover their faces with masks, too - clear proof that they came to vandalise property and/or assault others. I wonder how many of them have a job!?

He's taken an extreme example to perpetuate his extreme agenda ffs, and you lot have fallen for it again lol

The thing is unless you view right wing media you don't see these videos. As soon as you share or show a video from the right wing media you're immediately a nut job racist skinhead ignorant ****wit.

If you were remotely informed rather than the tunnel vision you have you'd realise it's not an extreme example, if anything it's quite moderate.

I have not labelled the right as anything.

I called Britain First and similar reactionary groups knuckle draggers, which isn't exactly controversial.

https://youtu.be/pAH6MZTLV90

https://youtu.be/-PSYPrE5LrQ

https://youtu.be/_K020ZtkE1A

https://youtu.be/rqm5BO_cFu0

https://youtu.be/gAym1xh94_E

https://youtu.be/fVjaGnPLH7A

In YOUR opinion, for what it's worth.:Whatever_:Whatever_

Yet you NEVER point out the violence, the anti-freedom-of-speech, the loud, insulting scum that are the hard left.

The sort of people who would fight to DENY you the right to speak out, unless you say what they want to hear..

Why not, Martin?

Because that's exactly what you dislike about the far right, isn't it?

I'm opposed to all these groups, unless you think I'm sympathising with the looney anarchist left?

Can you point me to the criticism you've made of the people in the video I posted please.

My argument here is with the constant amplification on non events like the video you want to use to justify everything with. The idea that this is proof we live in some kind of left wing conspiracy.
The idiots in that video are just doing the hard rights biding.

You're the living proof that we do. Of two political ideologies today you've attacked the right and made no comment on the left.
Arent you doing the bidding of the left by attacking the right?

Well if someone came on here trying to justify the actions of the hard left, then I'd have a similar debate with them

But you don't.

You NEVER condemn anything the left says, yet are always, seemingly, ready to condemn the right.

"Two legs bad,
Four legs good", eh??? :D

i think someone ,anyone, from the supposed hard left should drop in jus to prove they even exist

You just have...LOL

Well this is proof if it were even needed that hard left is just some made up handy catch phrase

So you think the violent, foaming at the mouth antifa protesters aren't hard left or 'extreme'. You're in denial about just about everything and have no argument when proof is put to you.
You said I'd posted ONE extreme example, I then provided several examples more extreme. You provided no retaliation.

You seem to think fake news is non existent, even though the BBC have been outed today as having a pro remain bias. But fake news on the right exists in your mind, the express, daily mail, BF etc (which nobody with a brain would deny). Find me the video shown in the OP being reported in the main stream media, you won't be able to. Because it's filtered, this does not fit the ideology they want you to believe exists.

Now the extreme left doesn't exist. There really isn't any point in debating with someone who quite clearly is shown video evidence of what they claim to be untrue and hasn't the balls to even reply to it.

Your head is firmly in the sand. You are more indoctrinated than any extreme right wing member.

"The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with authentic information with proof"

https://youtu.be/zeMZGGQ0ERk

Post up evidence bbc /etc. Filter