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Old 16 May 2017, 09:16 PM
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Same old ****e lol
Old 16 May 2017, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
There's little or no substance here from either side of the 'debate'. There must be something upon which you chaps can agree? It is true that the far-left shutdown debate and that this has led to a ground swell in support for the right, however the left's tactic of enforcing political correctness has meant we now live in world where the language of division is less prevalent. This is a good thing. Having said that, the left should tolerate the right; they should discuss, educate, understand and, dare I say it, love. It is the language of compassion on both sides that will lead to radical changes in our society, a society where truth springs from argument amongst friends.

We're only here for a short time, cyber buddies, let's try to make some progress.



IMO far too much discussion both here and pretty much everywhere else and especially the media is focused on what is left or right, where Labour=left, Tory=Right.

Would it seem barmy to adopt principles that come from left and right doctrines and have a political representation to reflect this? Or is that just an alien concept? It's not feasible to have a pure left or right government or leading party and in fact one has never really existed, most are a mix, so this left/right debating is rather moot, unless you are a member of a extremist left wing/right wing cult.

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Originally Posted by ALi-B


IMO far too much discussion both here and pretty much everywhere else and especially the media is focused on what is left or right, where Labour=left, Tory=Right.

Would it seem barmy to adopt principles that come from left and right doctrines and have a political representation to reflect this? Or is that just an alien concept? It's not feasible to have a pure left or right government or leading party and in fact one has never really existed, most are a mix, so this left/right debating is rather moot, unless you are a member of a extremist left wing/right wing cult.
Exactly
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Originally Posted by ALi-B


IMO far too much discussion both here and pretty much everywhere else and especially the media is focused on what is left or right, where Labour=left, Tory=Right.

Would it seem barmy to adopt principles that come from left and right doctrines and have a political representation to reflect this? Or is that just an alien concept? It's not feasible to have a pure left or right government or leading party and in fact one has never really existed, most are a mix, so this left/right debating is rather moot, unless you are a member of a extremist left wing/right wing cult.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way
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Originally Posted by ALi-B


IMO far too much discussion both here and pretty much everywhere else and especially the media is focused on what is left or right, where Labour=left, Tory=Right.

Would it seem barmy to adopt principles that come from left and right doctrines and have a political representation to reflect this? Or is that just an alien concept? It's not feasible to have a pure left or right government or leading party and in fact one has never really existed, most are a mix, so this left/right debating is rather moot, unless you are a member of a extremist left wing/right wing cult.
For years, i've been saying we should start by getting politics out of local government. FAR too many decisions are taken locally with a nod to what the party would say, rather than what is best for the local community.

As an example, a local Liebour councillor makes no secret of the fact that he can hardly bear to be in the same room as Tories. And when asked whether he could, or would, support an idea that came from the Tories, even if it was obviously brilliant, or would be great for the local area, his response was categoric: NO!

I've been teasing some local lads here about Liebour and especially Ms Abbott. And one of them told me he'd rather have her as Home Secretary than ANY Tory.

What can you do?
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Run as an independent
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Problem is that's the way politics has been in Wales/the North east since a certain milk snatcher came along.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B


IMO far too much discussion both here and pretty much everywhere else and especially the media is focused on what is left or right, where Labour=left, Tory=Right.

Would it seem barmy to adopt principles that come from left and right doctrines and have a political representation to reflect this? Or is that just an alien concept? It's not feasible to have a pure left or right government or leading party and in fact one has never really existed, most are a mix, so this left/right debating is rather moot, unless you are a member of a extremist left wing/right wing cult.
It would make perfect sense to adopt from both 'sides'. But in reality we have politicians more obsessed with buzzwords, mudslinging and unrealistic policy than to be able to answer a question with a simple yes or no.
Plus there is no middle ground on policy like migration or eu membership where you're either one or the other and puts people into the category of left or right, wrongly though.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Problem is that's the way politics has been in Wales/the North east since a certain milk snatcher came along.
Yes, she does have a lot to answer for. If I believed in a deity, I'd wish her in Hell.
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buckets middle ground ,unless of course youre an out of contention conspirtard misfit
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Problem is that's the way politics has been in Wales/the North east since a certain milk snatcher came along.

Funny thing is, Harold Wilson did the same thing in the 1960's

As an aside it took me years to work out the milk gave me reflux, wretched stuff (good god, I'm starting to sound like a vegan ).
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Yes, she does have a lot to answer for. If I believed in a deity, I'd wish her in Hell.
Something we can agree on. I also agree with you regarding local politics. For decades, our city council had been bogged down with party dogma, stifling progress on many important fronts. When we had our first elected Mayor a few years ago, we had an independent, and he managed to get more done in a couple of years than the bickering partisans on the council did in the previous 2 decades. Sadly, he was voted out last time (by lefties!) and our current career-Labour Mayor has not picked up the baton and carried on the momentum. I voted for the independent both times, fwiw.
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Originally Posted by dpb
Id suggest you do something more useful with your time . Difficult ,probably , if youre stuck in front screen day in day out
43,457 posts and you say that and expect anybody to take you seriously?
They would probably have banned you for clogging up the server if it wasn't for the fact that you are responsible for half the traffic on this site nowadays and without you the place would be dead.




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