And in what way has being a member of the EU encroached on your freedom?

 

I have never found one person that voted to be out of the union and their reasons were not immigration/people taking jobs. People should realise the immigration of the last few years is down to lots of civil war.

The EU is more than just migration. I'm sure May called the election as she doesn't want to be remembered for all time as the person who took us out of the EU. She was actually pro EU and although she triggered article 50 it's still reversable as it's what ever all the member states say it is or should I say Germany

 

Have to say Brenda is absolutely on the money imo

 

 

Country's freedom, not mine. Trade deals, tax, government support for UK companies, immigration policy.

 

We could still make trade deals via the EU, the latest one is with Canada! We benefit from stronger trade deals negotiating as the huge EU economy compared to the comparatively small UK economy.

Exactly which taxes does the EU not let us set ourselves? Income tax, NI, corporation Tax, VAT, car tax, TV tax, Tobacco tax, Alcohol tax, insurance tax, betting tax?

Do you really think the UK tax-payer should support failing companies? A return to the good old days of British Leyland?

Immigration has always been driven by the economy! Taking control of immigration won't reduce immigration, only increase the beauracracy and associted costs and frustrate companies who have more paperwork and delays when trying to employ immigrants to fill the positions they can't fill with British workers.

 

Tax
https://www.brugesgroup.com/taxation/56-issues/taxation/228-the-marks-and-spencer-case-eu-forces-changes-to-british-tax-law

The EU is basically a closed cartel blocking competition from outside the union. It has taken many years to achieve the Canadian deal.

There should be the ability to support specialist companies which provide services essential to the UK.

Migration needs to be controlled full stop,

 

all true except for VAT

I believe the EU set a minimum VAT level (on some commodities) - currently at 15% - so our is considerably higher anyway, no one is thinking of reducing it so in a way a moot point

apart from the above state subsidies/support may fall foul of WTO rules (we would be subject to the WTO court in Geneva)

unless we go full "North Korea" and opt out of word trade altogether!!!


Immigration - from the EU, was always based on being in work and not being a burden in a host nations welfare/health system anyway

and from outside the EU we had total control obviously

 

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'Freedom' LOL

And here you have it ladies and gentlemen, this is the kind of dumbass reason we're now heading out of the EU.

Well thanks cretins, you've done your country proud!

Enjoy your freedom

 

It sounds like you're upping sticks Martin?

Bye

 

This seems to be what a lot of Brexiters are after. The rest of the world is moving towards larger trading blocks that work together and yet the UK should go it alone as the small fish in a very big pond.

 

Oh christ, an election for who will govern us for the next 5 years without EU controls is being decided about brexit.

We are brexiting, we need to look at what type of country we want, and the tories are destroying it right now!

 

where as labour are destroying themselves, Ukip have no policies left and the lib dems, who are they?

 

Probably about the best of a bad bunch

 

In recent history, both Concervatives and New Labour have pretty much occupied the centre ground, so the Lib Dems have not really had a look in.

Now Conservatives have taken a lunge to the right to head off UKIP and Labour under Corbyn have gone back to their grass roots lefty politics, there is now a gaping hole in the middle which the Lib Dems could capitalise on!

Its fair to say most people are politically centrist, maybe leaning slightly to the left or right, but certainly not extreme left or right. At the moment and taking Brexit out of the argument, the Lib Dems are currently the party that best represent the majority of people in the UK.

The problem is, since the early 1920's there has only been Tory or Labour in power so people have become accustomed to voting for one or the other in what has almost become a two party system. Part of the problem is the press generally only talks about Tory or Labour and everyone else is forgotten!

 

New Labour are destroying Labour.

We have one chance to elect a politician who is honest, doesn't take bribes, won't bow to the corporations, a man of Clement Atlee stature (also unelectable but he smashed Winston Churchill) and we are letting the billionaire (who live in tax havens) controlled media and Israeli lobby tell us who to vote for.

You go ahead and believe the Media, MP candidate selections are taking place in labour right now, many of those Blairites who are destroying the party will be gone before June 8th, no more gravy train for those Red Tory ********. The ones that are so desperate to continue Thatchers neo-liberal policies, the ones so desperate to spend £160bn on Trident replacement while OUR NHS goes to hell in a handbasket, our police and emergency services are cut to the bone.

If you guys keep perpetuating the myth that Corbyn is bad for the country then you will make it a self fulfilling prophecy, so be ready for your kids having zero hours contracts whilst trying to pay criminal rents for uninhabitable property and deciding whether to eat or pay for their private medical insurance.

Lib dems will jump back into bed with the tories, they are no option and anyone that votes for Farron is wasting a vote and has a short memory. He wants to stop brexit like Clegg wanted to stop tuition fees!

 

New labour

labour is labour, no mater how you try to put a pink bow on it

All political partys are as bent as 9 bob notes, cons, lab, ukip, lib dem etc etc

The very fact they have to abied by party rules rather than there constituents is where the whole system has fallen down.

Should remove all political partys and every one be independant and vote how they want/how their constituents want, not following a party line. Problem solved.

 

You're funny!

How do the policies of the Liberal Democrats best represent the majority of people in the UK?

 

Like I said earlier, I'm looking forward to seeing those clowns from Momentum after the election.


I don't think even Corbyn himself thinks he's up to the job.


As for New Labour ruining the Labour Party - that's just laughable. It was New Labour that won 3 massive majorities on the trot.


When will they wake up? We need an opposition!

 

I didn't realise there were two labour partys out there,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Yes, even when the Brussels chief says that:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...Q&ocid=UE07DHP

There is no way Lib Dems are going to win the majority. Labour, under Corbyn, will never ask for Brexit to reverse, and The Tory party is deffo sticking for Brexit. So, that's it. Nothing can, or will block Brexit. General Election doesn't affect Brexit. That's the way it looks, anyway.

Regarding the press not talking about anything else but Tory or Labour, I think if the Lib Dems did something spectacular, then they would be in the news. Even the loser UKIP gets more coverage than them.

 

It's a big tent - probably too big right now

 

TV coverage is more about charisma than the message itself and as much as i think farage is a twat, he can;t half hold attention.

 

Go on then, who is the best of that mottley crew (as if i need to ask)?

 

Jolly good. In that case, Lib Dems need to be more charismatic than what they are. Then TV will give them more air time. Ok?

 

Reality is i think so. Who is the current lib dem leader? i don't even have a clue. That said im not even sure who the Ukip leader is, or is it farage again? he's the one that is always in the media even after he stepped down.

 

Does such a politician exist ???

 

Conservatives hinting that past promises not to raise taxes will change as after a new election they can do whatever they want.

 

Of course winning three times on the trot had nothing to do with the Conservative party being in a mess during that same era so there was no real opposition to Labour.

How those tables have turned LOL.

 

Yes I know the Tories had lurched to the right and Labour moved into the centre ground (which was kind of my point).
There is no real majority in the country for right or left and hasn't been for 30 years.