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stevebt 18 April 2017 11:10 AM

General election 8th june
 
Who are you voting for :)

The Trooper 1815 18 April 2017 11:23 AM

Goodbye Labour :lol1:

Tidgy 18 April 2017 11:35 AM

Conservatives are gonna win it without even bothering to put a pair of shoes on, let alone break a sweat.

As a political move, a very good one for sure.

Jonnys3 18 April 2017 11:36 AM

It's irrelevant who I vote for as Dennis Skinner is one of the candidates in my constituency and he always wins at General Election time. Until he steps down, or the voting system changes, Bolsover will always be Labour.

Tidgy 18 April 2017 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Jonnys3 (Post 11933830)
It's irrelevant who I vote for as Dennis Skinner is one of the candidates in my constituency and he always wins at General Election time. Until he steps down, or the voting system changes, Bolsover will always be Labour.

didn't they recently loose a couple of constituencies that were supposedly slam dunks?

The Trooper 1815 18 April 2017 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Jonnys3 (Post 11933830)
It's irrelevant who I vote for as Dennis Skinner is one of the candidates in my constituency and he always wins at General Election time. Until he steps down, or the voting system changes, Bolsover will always be Labour.

Just like in Wales, put a red rosette on a donkey and they get the Labour vote.

Turbohot 18 April 2017 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11933829)
Conservatives are gonna win it without even bothering to put a pair of shoes on, let alone break a sweat.

As a political move, a very good one for sure.

Yes, very dramatic and unexpected, but a very smart move.

stevebt 18 April 2017 11:45 AM

They are saying May has done it because they have a 20 point popularity lead over labour.

Tidgy 18 April 2017 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by stevebt (Post 11933836)
They are saying May has done it because they have a 20 point popularity lead over labour.

You don't need to be an expert pundit to realise that :lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

Dingdongler 18 April 2017 12:07 PM

Yup, it was too good an opportunity to miss given the mess labour is in.

However things like this can often backfire. The country may not like her calling an election when not very long ago she ruled it out as it wasn't in the best interests of the UK to have yet another election.

In addition if Labour and the Lib Dems both came out as pro remain parties then they might get a decent look in. That's on the assumption that the lazy remoaners who couldn't be bothered to vote last time actually get out of bed this time!

BMWhere? 18 April 2017 12:13 PM

Funnily enough I posted on her facebook feed last week after she announced her latest plans for the future, that she should perhaps seek a mandate before enacting them! Seems for once she actually listened! :P

Still, she should have done this before enacting article 50! Now that's another 2 months of the already short 2 year period of negotiations where nothing is going to get sorted!

As for winning, yes, it currently looks like the Conservatives will walk it, but a lot will depend on different parties stance on Brexit. I wouldn't rule out the Lib Dems taking a reverse Brexit stance and stealing many seats from both Conservative and Labour!

jonc 18 April 2017 12:58 PM

It is a shrewd move by the PM for sure. There is no opposition in Westminster for a snap GE from any of the parties. Polls are running high for the Tories and there are no real viable opposition to the Conservatives which gives the party the potential for a massive majority win. Also polls in Scotland shows a slide in support for the SNP and growing support for the conservatives and if the SNP lose their majority or even lose their hold in Scotland, that would mean the end of Scottish Referendum2.

Also a number of countries in the EU will also be holding their own general elections this summer so there will be a lull in the negotiations for Brexit so the timing is good and a win would give May a full 5 year term to fully implement the Brexit process.

Having said that, history has shown us to never trust the polls!!

ALi-B 18 April 2017 01:27 PM

The interesting bit will be how many SNP members get elected.

Me thinks Little Miss Crankie may not be as popular as she thinks she is, although with Labour off the radar it'll probably result in a SNP gain from Labour.

Tidgy 18 April 2017 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 11933847)
The interesting bit will be how many SNP members get elected.

Me thinks Little Miss Crankie may not be as popular as she thinks she is, although with Labour off the radar it'll probably result in a SNP gain from Labour.

Shes already been banging on,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-39630699

Paben 18 April 2017 01:49 PM

Diane Abbott has just been interviewed: a few thousand more Labour votes lost! :lol1:

Funkii Munkii 18 April 2017 01:59 PM

Seems like a waste of time and resources, just wanting to push the majority to the max to carry brexit over the line

The Tory's will 5hit home as they say :)

Funkii Munkii 18 April 2017 03:50 PM

Hopefully it rids us of Sturgeon

Tidgy 18 April 2017 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii (Post 11933883)
Hopefully it rids us of Sturgeon

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

as if :Whatever_

RS_Matt 18 April 2017 04:08 PM

Anyone but Labour!

David Lock 18 April 2017 04:30 PM

I'll vote for ANYONE apart from May. I think she's caught the Turkish bug :cool:

May is dragging us down a path we never voted for and will NEVER achieve what she says.

That liberal chap - Farrow? - talks sense.

What I would like to happen but know it won't would be for May to get her come uppence big time with a decent sprinkling of liberals who will join forces with Scotland, NI and the youth of Britain to put an end to the Brexit farce.

David

BMWhere? 18 April 2017 04:43 PM

My guess is the whole campaign will come down to Brexit choice with Conservatives campaigning for Hard Brexit, Labout for Soft Brexit and Lib Dems for No Brexit! It could split the country three ways and may well get another hung parliament!

I don't think Labour can win at the moment. Corbyn is too weak and their voters are heavily split between hard Brexit and remain, so he can't win either way! Conservatives are maybe being too cocky, at lot of people will see the cynical side of calling an election with a 20 point lead. They'll likely gain a lot of votes from the UKIP crowd, but also loose a lot of votes from more liberal Conservatives that don't want Brexit. If we see a youth rebellion, then the Lib Dems stand to gain a lot and recent by-election results have also tended to favour the Lib Dems, so they stand to be the biggest gainers in the election, although its unlikely they can win. If we had a proportional representation system, then the result could be really interesting!

At the moment, my money is on the Conservative gamble going Pete Tong and there being a huge backlash resulting in a hung parliament with Conservatives the largest party.

David Lock 18 April 2017 04:48 PM

Wasn't there a thing about fixed term parliaments?? dl

BMWhere? 18 April 2017 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by David Lock (Post 11933904)
Wasn't there a thing about fixed term parliaments?? dl

Yes, but with a 2/3 majority vote in the house of commons they can call an early election! Its important on such constitutional matters to have the protection of a clear majority vote to ensure its for the good of the country.... oh ****, wait a minute!!! :wonder:

The Trooper 1815 18 April 2017 05:32 PM

Labour support the move + the Tory majority = Early Election vote wins.
The Lords need a wake up call.
The Widow Krankie as been blind sided but needs to get her own house in order first.
The Own Agenda Cnuts need to shut the funk up and get on with getting us out.
It will be interesting how many Remainer MP get in if their constituants voted out, a couple of Welsh Labour MPs will be in a flat spin now.

Funkii Munkii 18 April 2017 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11933885)
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

as if :Whatever_

You seem quite sure the Scots will continue to vote for the SNP when the majority don't want to leave the UK, so maybe they vote Tory instead ensuring there will be no second referendum and the idiot Sturgeon has nowhere to go. Maybe then she will concentrate on her real job rather than losing focus continuing with the 2nd referendum argument.

One thing is for sure they wont clean up this time and will lose seats.:thumb::thumb:

stevebt 18 April 2017 06:14 PM

Talking to an old man in the bar today and he said "I used UKIP but there job is done so I'm going to vote conservative as May is very clever. We can't vote labour as they will let all the immigrants in".

This is what we are dealing with on a vote, why is racism such a pressing thing with people?

BMWhere? 18 April 2017 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by stevebt (Post 11933932)
This is what we are dealing with on a vote, why is racism such a pressing thing with people?

Fear!

Paben 18 April 2017 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by BMWhere? (Post 11933903)
My guess is the whole campaign will come down to Brexit choice with Conservatives campaigning for Hard Brexit, Labout for Soft Brexit and Lib Dems for No Brexit! It could split the country three ways and may well get another hung parliament!

I don't think Labour can win at the moment. Corbyn is too weak and their voters are heavily split between hard Brexit and remain, so he can't win either way! Conservatives are maybe being too cocky, at lot of people will see the cynical side of calling an election with a 20 point lead. They'll likely gain a lot of votes from the UKIP crowd, but also loose a lot of votes from more liberal Conservatives that don't want Brexit. If we see a youth rebellion, then the Lib Dems stand to gain a lot and recent by-election results have also tended to favour the Lib Dems, so they stand to be the biggest gainers in the election, although its unlikely they can win. If we had a proportional representation system, then the result could be really interesting!

At the moment, my money is on the Conservative gamble going Pete Tong and there being a huge backlash resulting in a hung parliament with Conservatives the largest party.


You seemed conveniently to have forgotten that the country voted for Brexit, and the reason the Tories have a 20 point lead is the 'opposition' is weak and unsupportable. You may well wish for the Tory gamble to fail but save your money, or lose it.

guinnessman2001 18 April 2017 06:57 PM

Very shrewd move from Teresa May, wee Nicola Nesbitt up here has really been outsmarted.

SNP will never retain the same number of seats and any loss will point towards a tailing off of support for another referendum.

I can see both Tory and Labour gains in Scotland.
Hopefully this will be the beginning of the end of the deranged woman's career.

stevebt 18 April 2017 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by BMWhere? (Post 11933935)
Fear!


I was in New York a couple of years ago and did the eliss island tour. It's full of pictures and quotes from people in the early 1900's and everything they said then about the Chinese taking all there jobs is exactly what people are saying now with another race. People's fear of immigrants taking jobs has been going on hundreds of years and will go on for hundreds of years more, they just need to stop being idiots and just accept the world needs migration.


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