scoobypaul_temp

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Bore off jackanory

ditchmyster

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See, for those of you that wish to know why I no longer live in the UK... it's because of people like this.

Britain is full of blithering idiots, educated idiots, un-educated idiots, fools, biggots and retarded 4r$e holes, to name a few... and I just became totally sick of having to deal with them... my only retort being to vote with my feet and leave them all to it... seriously... a bunch of ******* no hopers with no chance of redemption.

I PITY THE FOOLS!

Peedee

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You really are a disgusting, vile, despicable, self-centred ar$ehole. I feel sorry for any kids you have, I feel sorry for your partner, I feel sorry for your parents who gave birth to such a massive **** (spare me 'resorting to insults' line, you've just done it yourself). Constantly blabbing on about the state of the UK, but yet spend half your miserable life talking about it? Figures . Nobody cares that you don't live here (because they are getting on with their own lives) so get over it. Funnily enough, you're not the first person ever to move countries.

There are lots of people on here I disagree with (and agree with) but I genuinely value their opinions (even Raggy-do, believe it or not), but you? You are scum. I wouldn't pi$$ on you if you were on fire. Hell, even RS_Matt has valid points sometimes, but all I see from you is anti-democratic, lefty lunatic hate-filled rhetoric based on your own opinions that have clearly been moulded from a combination of spending all day watching BBC news and scouring the internet....presumably whenever you're not racing ferarris in your rover 25.

Gross individual of the highest order.

Paben

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Add deluded fantasist to that list and you've pretty well summed him up

ditchmyster

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Oh look another pair of morons come to join the party, you're both exactly what I'm talking about... thick koonts that suck bollocks up like sponges do water... seriously struggle to fathom how people like you get through the day without being told how to .... oh wait.

ditchmyster

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Dude you really should get a handle on all that hate, the bile will eat you from the inside out.

Oh yeah... your description of me... spot on that.

And save your sorrow for your own kids, and family... they have to be around a moron like you and share your genes.

scoobypaul_temp

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Sorry - I didn't realise you had the monopoly on repeating yourself.

You are the one who is so full of hate and anger, not everyone else. So you voted with your feet, to leave us all to it, yet constantly spout your anti-establishment / anti-military / anti-British drivel at every opportunity.

Clearly leaving us to it has done you no good, as you just can't stop yourself from coming on here and repeating the same old cr4p

Aren't there any pubs/clubs in Croatia that need a really handy doorman, who will fight off all comers?

Or maybe you can find some street racers driving their M5's and GTR's, so you can give them a sound thrashing in your Lada?

Jackanory / Fantasist / Story teller / Tommy Two Shi7s

Devildog

Dude, please don't let your emotions get in the way of fact.

These are not opinions. The IRA ran extortion rackets. As did those organsations on the other side. That is organised crime. Just because you happen to agree with what that crime was funding doesn't make that crime in any way "justifiable"

Next you'll be trying to convince me that "Mr McGuiness" wasn't responsible for the murder of civilians.

Catholics in Northern Ireland were treated disgracefully. Similar happened in much of Scotland. How the IRA came about is understandable. I can even be sympathetic to the original cause that was fought for.

What the IRA (and the "loyalists") evolved into, however, is a very different thing.

Devildog

Thats some size of chip you've got there Ditch. And it seems to be getting bigger.

Unlike you I tend to only make statements with conviction when I have actual experience of the subject in hand. If that upsets you then that's something you'll just have to deal with

Whats your "experience" of what happened in Northern Ireland in the 70s and 80s?

Its ironic that you're saying I think I know it all, and that I'm a pompous self righteous ar sehole. Do you ever read your own posts back to yourself?

We've been here before when I called you out on your bullsh!t then too.

PS - I'd love to have had life handed to me on a plate. Sorry to dissapoint your opinionated stereotyping. I may have had a good education - so what? I made the most of it, started out with pretty much nothing and have worked hard for every single thing I own.

David Lock

I agree with that and would add that the whole tragic scene over many years was so f,ucking stupid. Here was/is an Island lived in my reasonably educated white men who lived almost exactly the same lives on both sides of the border. Same shops, same language (well nearly ) who believed in the same God albeit with different interpretations of Jesus and his mother. Yes the IRA felt that they had been hard done by - which was largely true - but there was just no need to take the actions they took. It was crying out for a long term political solution whilst people just got on with their lives not extortion and murder. The Church behaved appallingly and Paisley's Never, Never, Never was tantamount to Destroy, Destroy, Destroy. So much more should have been done to integrate kids schooling and have put an end to the Catholic/Protestant divide. McGuiness and his cronies made the wrong choice from the start.

Nelson Mandela had just cause to rebel as do so many of those in the Middle East. David

Martin2005

100% agree - great post DL

ditchmyster

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Ah another one trying to tell me what I think and feel and disputing my life experiences that I've shared... OK whatever... is all I can say about the things I've done or that have happened in my life... I don't happen to thinks it's anything so spectacular that it would be deemed unbelievable... but hey there you go... as I've said before you must lead pretty sad existences to think my tales are so fantastical.

As for my feelings... I'll say it again... I don't hate the UK, Police or military... I just have an opinion based on what I've seen over the best part of 35yrs, which is my adult life basically.

The Uk is no different to many places in that it's basically run by extremely rich people that basically own everything worth owning, and then manipulate the rest of us... they don't care about your Queen... country, you, me etc etc... all they're interested in is making more money and maintaining the status quo.

People who buy into all of that and help them along the way with their agendas... thinking they are some sort of force for good and that OUR way of life it the best way... are plainly and simply deluded... now we see the results of all of this and wonder what we ever did to deserve this.

I mean.... seriously... are people really that stupid... short answer YES.

I could go on but what's the point... It won't change anything.. and all it will achieve is more people trying to tell me that I'm anti this or anti that... I know it's what you've been conditioned to do... put a label on it and then you can pack it away into a little box and dismiss it as whatever the label says.

Just another tac tic to maintain the status quo... but hey don't take my word for it... try and have a think for yourselves.

Peace out.

scoobypaul_temp

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Again for you:

So you voted with your feet, to leave us all to it, yet constantly spout your anti-establishment / anti-military / anti-British drivel at every opportunity.

Clearly leaving us to it has done you no good, as you just can't stop yourself from coming on here and repeating the same old cr4p

I could go on but what's the point...

Change the record, its stuck

scoobypaul_temp

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Spot on David

1509joe

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You make some valid points BUT the British government fund their killing via Taxing everyone in just about every possible way they can. They are indirectly murderers and rapists too. You only become a terrorist when generally a western country can't win a war that they shouldn't of started or stuck there nose into in the first place. I'm sure you do not need them named cause there is plenty.

Martin2005

I must of missed all those IRA funding schools and hospitals

Devildog

Joe,

I don't disagree. But taxation is legal and extortion is not.

Here's some more discussion around the criminal activities and profiteering you are in denial about

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crimi...-away-1.488369

From that 2005 article

In 2002 the House of Commons Northern Ireland Affairs Committee produced a report titled The Financing of Terrorism In Northern Ireland. Its authors estimated that the IRA's annual running costs were €2.2 million with an annual fundraising capacity of between €7.3 million and €11.7 million. Based on those figures, IRA Inc has recorded annual profits of €9.5 million every year in recent times.

Two weeks ago, in the wake of the IRA's statement saying its "armed campaign" was over and calling on members to "dump arms", the last deputy chief constable of the RUC, Colin Crampton, predicted the organisation would play a key mafia-style role in Ireland into the future.

"A lot of men have invested their whole lives in illegal armed conflict, bomb-making and terror. They're not about to settle for pipe and slippers now," he said. "Neither is the IRA about to go away . . . This is the most sophisticated, politically strategic organisation I know. It has pensions to pay to loyal volunteers and operatives who have given long service . . . This is not the end of the IRA, it is the beginning of another era of it."

scoobypaul_temp

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Mate don't you come on here throwing factual data around, what are you thinking of!?!?!

Just wait, one of the sympathisers will be along with "well what do you expect the RA to do, you forced them into that position, you can't expect them just to pack up and get real jobs now that there is 'peace'" (I use that term loosely)....

Devildog

haha I know. What with that and being "a typical establishment pompus self rigtheous superior 4r$ehole that thinks he knows it all, thing is it's easy to make snide remarks about everyone and everything when you come from a privileged background and had life handed to you on a plate"

What was I thinking

Peedee

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"Based on what I've seen".

So I will assume that you have served in both the military (and have a few medals on your chest because you've been on operational tours) and the police, which is what you base your opinions on as you have "seen" and experienced being part of both those organisations over the past 35 years?

It would be pretty foolish to make that comment on things you have "seen" on the news or from what your mate Dave has told you who served for 3 months in the territorial Army as a chef

Take your time on this one, no rush. A straight 'yes' or 'no' answer will suffice in regards to your service in BOTH the police and Armed Forces.

1509joe

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Taxation is legal is it. How many times are you taxed on the same proceeds. You are taxed on your earnings then for instance you buy fuel which already is swamped with duty then you pay VAT on that. Extortion wouldn't have a look in.