Martin McGuiness dead!
 

Good riddance!

RIP to an Irish hero

IRA scum, more like!

Personally, a difficult one.

It goes without saying he was involved in terrorist activity in the 70s and 80s but in later life he appeared committed to the peace process.

I never really understood the arguments of occupation, I was too young to fully grasp it at the time. I asked a Southern Irish work colleague once why don't we just leave them to it and he said if the British left the Protestants would go out and kill all the Catholics.

That's all I got out of him.

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
People like Martin McGuiness will always divide opinion.

Today is a good day! :thumb:

What with all the politicians on telly this morning giving their opinion, I can't help but be reminded of this...

That didn't take long :wonder:

Wall to wall coverage on the BBC this morning. You'd think the Queen had died.

In-depth reporting? No. Just reporting the same story to the point of boredom.

The man willing killed innocent people. Just a shame he didn't die in prison.

That's the media for you though, something new which involves death

being fair it has been a slow year so far for them death wise, well compared to 2016.

kill a couple of people and they put you in prison , kill hundreds an terrorise a nation and they give you a seat in parliament

Bit more to it than that.
To be fair to him, he played an enormous part in the peace process, together with his arch enemy Ian Paisley.

Not forgetting the catalyst - Mo Mowlem - she used to have them both in stitches by removing her wig whilst they were arguing across the table.
She would disarm their hatred with her wit and wisdom.

Wouldn't need a peace process if he wasn't murdering people.

Can't blame him for all the trouble, in the nicest possible way, that's a bit of a daft thing to say in the first place.

Can I blame him for all the murders & carnage that he was involved in though?

And he also played a massive part in blowing a lot of people's innocent family's up , he should of died in prison in my view rather than him leading a very comfy life based on terrorist acts that he organised

Bump his body in the water like they did with bin ladan as they are cut From the same cloth

because the loyalists never killed anyone?

yeah - absolutely.

Exactly my point, you can't pin everything on one person or one side.

Think you all need to look into the whole situation in depth and then decide who casts the first stone.

Mate I grew up with this stuff, I've witnessed the dark times and the good times.
Yes, he's done some god awful things in the past, but he also helped pave the way for the good times.

Is 100% right and we all know which side did the most killing. People always jump to uneducated conclusions due to lack of knowledge. As was said before look into the whole situation before jumping to conclusions.

Is that photo being bandied about on news , him with Carlos the Jackal ? ( who's also popped up recently )

I wouldn't put mcguiness in the same league freedom fighter as a mandela eg

Whilst he appeared to be a "new" statesman he never expressed remorse for his activities.

At least he died slowly and in pain. He was about to be found out, exposed by the British Intelligence services and took to politics to gain his exception from prosecution, more a coward who ran away than faced up to his actions.

Hi,
In today's Daily Mail they have an article about various IRA bombings in NI and the mainland.
Picture 4 features the Guildford pub bombings from 1974.
The fireman pictured is my father - he was the first fireman into the Horse and Groom, after they were called out.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...inflicted.html

Dark days!
Cheers
Steve

Exposed as what?

A bloke fighting to free his country from oppression, but you're asking a serving member of the British Army / pawn in "The Great Game" so don't expect him to be able to see things from BOTH sides.

I'm not an IRA sympathiser.. by the way... but I can see why they did what they did in the face of enemy occupation.

I don't understand why people STILL fail to understand... go to someone elses country with a load of soldiers with guns and then expect them not to fight back, and when they do... label THEM the bad guys :cuckoo: AND people just suck that $h!t up and believe it... seriously beggers belief. :freak3: