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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DanGlennon
I voted to remain, simply because I thought the company I work for (Nissan) would suffer.
However, it seems from recent news articles and the CEO meeting with May at Downing Street that things are going OK. I hope this is the case and that my job, along with many other people's jobs in the UK, will be safe for years to come
did you get a letter from your company encouraging you to vote remain?
ive heard several have done this which I’m sure is illegal
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 06:26 AM
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How and why should we suddenly become an attractive place to invest in is the key here ?
Unless of course we're relying here on forcing the EU to fall apart
If the UK leave the EU fully, then de-regulation and investments will come to the UK, encouraging new business to setup. These are the companies to invest in
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 08:17 AM
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Exactly what deregulation are you expecting? If you want to sell your wares in the EU, you'll still have to meet EU regulations. The US also has regulations that have to be met. In fact, just about every country has a set of regulations that need to be met in order to sell any product there. The UK will have its own different set of regulations post EU, so that means another set of paperwork that will have to be completed to show you meet the UK regulations.

The myth of deregulation is a total smokescreen, the UK will keep almost identical regulations to the EU.


Investment will be dependent on what the UK can offer. Much of our past external investment, the likes of Nissan, Honda, Airbus etc., have been made because the UK can offer a tariff free gateway to the huge EU market with low corporation tax and reasonable wage costs. Post Brexit, you no longer have the tariff free access to the EU, so other EU countries will be the location of choice for investment. For non EU trade, then you have to ask what the UK can offer above China, Taiwan, South Korea etc. Our wage costs are reasonable within Europe, but way too expensive compared to the rest of the world. The only thing the UK can do to attract foreign investment is to create a tax haven, but that means less tax income for companies, so the difference has to be made up from the poor folk!
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 09:37 AM
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What companies and which type of companies do you see setting up in UK Andy , out of interest ?


beyond just reselling stuff made in far east !

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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Exactly what deregulation are you expecting? If you want to sell your wares in the EU, you'll still have to meet EU regulations. The US also has regulations that have to be met. In fact, just about every country has a set of regulations that need to be met in order to sell any product there. The UK will have its own different set of regulations post EU, so that means another set of paperwork that will have to be completed to show you meet the UK regulations.
He's of course talking about deregulation of working conditions, meaning a return to poor worker's rights, so whilst we still have to conform to the regulations of the countries we export to, it will be jolly cheap to make them

The Jacob Rees Moggs of this world will be able to return to a world where his kind rule over the oiks.
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Nigel Lawson has said he loves Europe ,not the EU. completely different.
Did you have a stroke before you wrote that???? he is going to live permanently in a EU country.
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 12:06 PM
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More specialist tech based companies. Lets face it mass production left the UK in the mid part of last century, and wont be returning. The UK has some of the finest engineers in all of the world, so with encouragement and incentives more will flourish to be world leaders in their respective fields.
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
If the UK leave the EU fully, then de-regulation and investments will come to the UK, encouraging new business to setup. These are the companies to invest in

What regulations do you want removing/rescinding?
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
More specialist tech based companies. Lets face it mass production left the UK in the mid part of last century, and wont be returning. The UK has some of the finest engineers in all of the world, so with encouragement and incentives more will flourish to be world leaders in their respective fields.

How the **** is this anything to do with leaving the EU?
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 01:37 PM
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IDS has just said the following

"Before World War II, as the historian Andrew Roberts has pointed out, the Federation of British Industries — the forerunner of the CBI — supported both the Gold Standard (which, in its constraints on a government’s ability to manage the economy is an instrument of jobs destruction), and the appeasement of **** Germany.

Between 1937 and 1939 while the ***** were opening their concentration camps, the FBI oversaw the creation of no fewer than 33 separate agreements between British and German business groups.

Undaunted by this sorry record, after the war the CBI supported the socialistic nationalisation of much of the economy by the Labour government — just as it backed Harold Wilson’s ill-fated introduction of tripartite state planning (social partnership based on affiliations between business, labour and the state to create economic policy) in the 1960s, and the wholesale surrender to trade union power in the 1970s."



lol, they really are bat**** crazy
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 01:40 PM
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https://www.politico.eu/article/tech-brexodus/


this doesnt sound overwhelmingly positive on the tech side

Still maybe Londons bit old hat now - perhaps the new emphasis will be somewhere further north
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 02:23 PM
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Dublin is the tech capital of Europe, the UK hasn't got a chance, or the network infrastructure!

The tech industry is generally dependent on young, highly educated and very mobile workforce. The young, educated people want to be in the EU, the tech industry is massively multinational and the UK's post Brexit anti immigration rhetoric is very unattractive to the tech workers.


As with many things, the UK has massively failed with investment in network infrastructure outside of London, and London is just too expensive for startups. For sometime now, the UK has not really been an attractive destination for the tech industry. Now with Brexit, its even less attractive as you can't attract the talent.
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 09:42 PM
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Good news UK population has slowed significantly last year due to less EU migration . Unfortunately the UK has exceeded 66 million for the first time. Need to get it back to 50million
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 10:05 PM
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Theyre going home , on account the other EU countries prospects looking up , and ours more uncertain than ever !

soon the place will be solely infested with 60 plus ! , euthanasia only solution here to get to 50m
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Good news UK population has slowed significantly last year due to less EU migration . Unfortunately the UK has exceeded 66 million for the first time. Need to get it back to 50million
Who is going to pay your pension if population drops to 50 million and retired people continue to live longer?
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Who is going to pay your pension if population drops to 50 million and retired people continue to live longer?
I don't have a pension I'm in the 0.1% club
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Old Jun 28, 2018 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Good news UK population has slowed significantly last year due to less EU migration . Unfortunately the UK has exceeded 66 million for the first time. Need to get it back to 50million
Euthanasia?
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Euthanasia?
Deport remainders,

Under 50million, perfect

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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Deport remainders,

Under 50million, perfect
You mean get rid of all the intelligent people 😀
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
You mean get rid of all the intelligent people 😀
Whatever you want to call yourself,

tat-ta
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Deport remainders,

Under 50million, perfect
remainder
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    a part, number, or quantity that is left over.
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    synonyms:residue, balance, remaining part/number/quantity, part/number/quantity (that is) left over, rest, others, those left, remnant, remnants, rump, surplus, difference, extra, excess, superfluity, overflow, overspill, additional people/material/things, extra people/material/things; technicalresiduum
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Originally Posted by andy97
Whatever you want to call yourself,

tat-ta

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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 12:49 PM
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^^^
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Originally Posted by andy97
If the UK leave the EU fully, then de-regulation and investments will come to the UK, encouraging new business to setup. These are the companies to invest in

What regulations do you want removing/rescinding?



You may have missed my post from yesterday.
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by coupe_20vt
What regulations do you want removing/rescinding?



You may have missed my post from yesterday.





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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 02:54 PM
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spell checkers dear boy play havoc
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
You mean get rid of all the intelligent people ��


For the sakes of balance, this must be the 'intelligent' reasoning for a remainer

"But I love my holidays!"

Remain may have won if the likes of her had voted.

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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 01:14 PM
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andy97 again failing to answer my very simple question.


No surprise really.
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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
The tech industry is generally dependent on young, highly educated and very mobile workforce. The young, educated people want to be in the EU, the tech industry is massively multinational and the UK's post Brexit anti immigration rhetoric is very unattractive to the tech workers.
I think this is sadly true.. I'm a techie myself, and there's no way I'd have come to the UK now in 2018, but things were different back in 2001 when I came over to help build up a satellite office (ultimately ill-fated, but it employed 5 brits for a while).

To be perfectly honest, I'm still extremely bitter about the whole Brexit vote. I've worked my ***** off in the UK for 17 years now, and paid loads of tax and never received a penny in benefits. I've paid my way, yet now I'm made to feel like I'm not welcome anymore, even though I've contributed far more than the average UK citizen. If I didn't have kids here already in school, I'd go back to Sweden and probably have a better quality of life, but sadly I'm stuck here now.

If I was still 20 and looking to move abroad for a while, I think Berlin would be high on my list.
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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 10:56 PM
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So where is this flood of new start up tech companies going to arise from...
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 01:29 PM
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andy97 again failing to answer my very simple question.


No surprise really.
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