alcazar

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Not going to argue with you....my dad told me never to argue with women because they just wait for you to shut up and then say the same thing again...and that's what you are doing.

ARE you female?

If it helps your thought processes, try and bear in mind that I said no more arguments about BREXIT. It's done and dusted and we won...the vote, the arguments, everything.

I'll still be around both to correct silliness in posts surrounding Brexit, and to poke a stick in the wasps' nest.....seems to be working with you.

Bzzzzzzzzzzz

dpb

Won the vote yes

Won the argument , how ?

alcazar

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Because we are still going?

Seriously dpb, do you HONESTLY beleive that all your moaning, whining and crying will change even one thing?

dpb

Well thankfully the real brexiteers have been kicked into the long grass , so....

What do you think !

neil-h

The 1950s called, it would quite like its attitude back.

alcazar

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Since that's when I was born, when REAL values existed, that's a compliment.

As for Thatcher's generation, and the me, me, me of the Bliar years, you can all go skip.

stevebt

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Edited for the true reason for every Brexit person I have spoken to. I have never spoken to one person who wanted to leave the EU and migration not be their main and only reason.

Martin2005

You're allowing your misogynistic tendencies get the better of you.

andy97

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My passport is due for renewal in 2020 so that's good timing, unless I lose it

alcazar

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But you immediately equate that with racism?

Have you EVER been affected by immigration? Negatively?

I have no qualms about not wanting UNCONTROLLED immigration.....we MUST put our own first.

And I have yet to meet a Brexit out voter who wants ALL immigration stopped.

Maybe peddle your lies elsewhere?

alcazar

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You've found a new word...you DO read posts after all.
Well done.

Much better than your usual "No, no, no it isn't..."response.

Keep it up.

dpb

Where has he mentioned racism

madscoob

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the way i see immigration is this,
we should only have 1 control,
a combination of canada american and aus rules,
i,e you can come here by all means BUT YOU MUST BE ABLE TO SUPPORT YOURSELF AND FAMILY FOR 12 MONTHS, (NO BENEFITS) AFTER THIS NO JOB GO BACK HOME LIKE IT OR NOT THAT IS FAIR ON EVERYONE

dpb

Would you be wishing the foreign worker johnnys that are here already a fond farewell Alcazar ?

dpb

Like it ever need be said again

What miniscule proportion actually come here to do that ?

And youre convulting AS ALWAYS since Alcazars gripe is the numbers here Stealing a uk workers job

alcazar

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All those now doing jobs that UK workers could and would do...yes.

The rest, if needed, no.

Simple enough for you?

The SIMPLE fact, now being recognised by those not still blindfolded by liberalism, is that uncontrolled immigration has lowered wages.

Quite how Liebour think that could IN ANY WAY be a good idea, is beyond even me. Let alone you Remongs

dpb

oh dear, bad luck then !

Even ones arriving over next year are allowed to stay , and Steal uk jobs lol

madscoob

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any you actually find this fact funny, never mind us taxpayers will just pay a bit more so our owngrown can stay on benefits while the immys work for min wage lining big buisness's pockets

neil-h

And why should we do that? What makes the average Brit any more special than Johnny Foreigner?

StrangelyBrown

I believe a country should be resource self sufficient however there is a massive shortage of skills sets and with the self entitlement mindset which seems to be rife in the UK, it just isn't viable to look inwards to resource all industries.

If this country is ever going to be self sufficient there needs to be a significant culture change in everything from education to benefit entitlement to how we see ourselves as a country. Gone are the days of being a revered powerhouse, we are a small country off the coast of France with little or no export.

The deluded majority have voted, we as a country just have to make best of a bad situation.

hodgy0_2

Seriously are you thick, read the EU FOM directive

It explicitly states EU migrants can't claim benefits without working, and if not being in work must have the means to support themselves

And can be removed within 3 months if they can't demonstrate they have a reasonable expectation of work - just read the fvcking directive

A core principles is that they must not be a burden on a host countries social services

BMWhere?

This is the big problem, the has been so much misinformation about the EU rules peddled by the British press that just aren't true and nobody ever looks at the real rules to see for themselves.

Immigration/Benefits rules are for one, the passport colour is another and don't get me started on bendy bananas!

madscoob

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YES IT'S A DIRECTIVE NOT A RULE OR LAW so do you honestly think it gets applied, and you said can be removed CAN being a big CAN
i will put it another way,
i have had enough of the uk, so sell up everything(for this example i don't own a home but found neibours with enough money to buy everything i own ) and roll up in some swedish or german town SKINT after spending all my funds getting there and ask for a place to live and enough money to live on until i can find a job, do you actually think i would get anything ? be honest the answer is no so why should immigrants from somalia etc etc, we should be free to live where ever we choose on this planet, but we are not because other countries with politicians with BRAINS have rules that have to be obeyed, ie aus if over a certain age you have to have enough money to see out you life, so you can't sponge off them in older age and rightly so

dpb

madscoob

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and you actually think a migrant worker on min wage pays enough tax to not be a burden, LMFAO BEHAVE if he has 2 or more kids they will get more child benefit than he pays tax and ni, and thats before the kids go to scool or the doctors, please never cross a road apart from at a pedestrian crossing

Sad Weevil

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Why not blame big business then? It's the system screwing us, not some spud packer from Lithuania or wherever.

Martin2005

This is such a red herring

alcazar

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And you have the gall to point the finger at us Brexiteers for being uncaring?

Typical remoaner though...I always said you were a bunch of IAJFEE's, and you prove me right.

alcazar

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Of for God's sake, wake up man. Born here from parents who have paid in.....first in the queue?

I REALLY REALLY hope that you get some negative effect from immigration this year to wake you from your stupid stupour. Your selfish attitude begs our belief.

alcazar

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Bullcr@p! My eldest left a decent job to get a decent degree in mech eng. But he's gone until NOW finding a job in engineering...simply because the firsm want experience as well as qualifications...yet we are 80,000 engineers short? Go figure.

Perhaps YOU need a few years living in this marvellous Europe before jumping to such stupid conclusions?

Yep, we won, now suck it up.:luxhel lo: