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Old 22 December 2017, 09:53 AM
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No need to replace early if you don't wish to. In fact I don't think you could anyhow, it will be phased replacement as 10 year passports expire. The contract hasn't been awarded for the new British blue passport and will be announced in 2019
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Old 22 December 2017, 09:55 AM
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Announced and released at the same time ?
Old 22 December 2017, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Symbolic, but important part restoring national identity, the Blue Passport to be released in 2019

The irony of looking to the future but in actuality you are stuck in the past
Old 22 December 2017, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Symbolic, but important part restoring national identity, the Blue Passport to be released in 2019

Restoring national identity? - WTF


Are we really that shallow?
Old 22 December 2017, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by trails
The irony of looking to the future but in actuality you are stuck in the past

the irony of course is that regulations around passports (size / colour etc) are nothing to do with the EU (that's why the keen eyed will notice every passport you see at an airport from Russian to Japanese via the DRC and Afghanistan all look the same - and come in one of 4 base colours )

Passports are actually regulated by International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) - nothing to do with the EU

But that is too complicated for Brexidiots

and indeed to further confuse these fvckwits it was always possible to have a blue passport - Croatia has a blue one and is a member of the EU

I suspect the reason for Burgundy was simply one of costs - as it just makes sense to buy in bulk, EU wide (there are only a very few manufacturers of passports, and likely that the new one will be manufactured overseas anyway)

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Old 22 December 2017, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Restoring national identity? - WTF


Are we really that shallow?
Yup, that's the kind of utterly ridiculous motivation that got us into this mess. Stupid thing is if these people were that "proud to be British" then nothing the EU could do would take that national identity away from them.
Old 22 December 2017, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Restoring national identity? - WTF


Are we really that shallow?
Yep. Farage andAlzheimer are jerking off at the news.
Old 22 December 2017, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
So just so everybody is clear, this is Alcazar not arguing in this thread...
Just so everyone is clear, this is neil-h who STILL doesn't understand that I'm not arguing about Brexit

It's happening girls. And all your whining, moaning and crying will not alter it.

SUCK IT UP!!!!!
Old 22 December 2017, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Symbolic, but important part restoring national identity, the Blue Passport to be released in 2019
So national identity is defined by the colour of your travel document? The blue passport only came in in 1922. Maybe we should go back to the pre-1855 (you know, when Britain was great) passport, which was written in French, and was a single piece of paper.
Old 22 December 2017, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
the irony of course is that regulations around passports (size / colour etc) are nothing to do with the EU (that's why the keen eyed will notice every passport you see at an airport from Russian to Japanese via the DRC and Afghanistan all look the same - and come in one of 4 base colours )

Passports are actually regulated by International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) - nothing to do with the EU

But that is too complicated for Brexidiots

and indeed to further confuse these fvckwits it was always possible to have a blue passport - Croatia has a blue one and is a member of the EU

I suspect the reason for Burgundy was simply one of costs - as it just makes sense to buy in bulk, EU wide (there are only a very few manufacturers of passports, and likely that the new one will be manufactured overseas anyway)

pretty sure this has already been covered...I predict it will raise it's weary head again at some point
Old 22 December 2017, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
pretty sure this has already been covered...I predict it will raise it's weary head again at some point
yes it probably was, like so much of the Brexiteer nonsense

but is does highlight an important point - so many of those "rules" the EU "forced" on us are simply the result of UN based international agreements/treaties anyway

this will not change when we leave the EU - unless we go full North Korea and really regain our "sovereignty"
Old 22 December 2017, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
yes it probably was, like so much of the Brexiteer nonsense

but is does highlight an important point - so many of those "rules" the EU "forced" on us are simply the result of UN based international agreements/treaties anyway

this will not change when we leave the EU - unless we go full North Korea and really regain our "sovereignty"
And its another example of the Brexit campaigners leveraging peoples ignorance to achieve their aim...Kim is a good name for a PM right?
Old 22 December 2017, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Restoring national identity? - WTF


Are we really that shallow?
The UK had to accept the red one saying EU, removing national identity
Old 22 December 2017, 01:12 PM
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2:15 to 3:00

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Originally Posted by Sad Weevil
So national identity is defined by the colour of your travel document? The blue passport only came in in 1922. Maybe we should go back to the pre-1855 (you know, when Britain was great) passport, which was written in French, and was a single piece of paper.
Symbolic

Prior to the early 1900's very few people moved to a different country, unless you're talking about the world war or movement of criminals to other parts of the world. Doubt a soldier needed a passport to fight in France.

Unless you're talking about the Irish and the mass emigration due to the potato famine?
Old 22 December 2017, 01:45 PM
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We didnt need passports then Cause we were imperialist British !!
Old 22 December 2017, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
The UK had to accept the red one saying EU, removing national identity
LOL
Old 22 December 2017, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
And its another example of the Brexit campaigners leveraging peoples ignorance to achieve their aim...Kim is a good name for a PM right?
indeed another win for team thickie
Old 22 December 2017, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
The UK had to accept the red one saying EU, removing national identity
Yes, because my identity is solely based on my passport, in particular the colour of it!

What a great victory for Brexit this is! We've ****ed the country up, ruined the economy and all going to be poorer, but at least we'll have a blue passport with a couple of words removed!
Old 22 December 2017, 05:46 PM
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Yay...a Brexit win... And YOU have to accept it! ANOTHER win!

Old 22 December 2017, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Yay...a Brexit win... And YOU have to accept it! ANOTHER win!

Bit of an empty win given that the colour of the passport is not an EU requirement, so they could have changed it anyway and never needed to change the colour in the first place! But still, is the first time so far the Brexiteers have actually got something they voted for in the whole Brexit process so enjoy your new irrelevantly coloured passports
Old 22 December 2017, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Just so everyone is clear, this is neil-h who STILL doesn't understand that I'm not arguing about Brexit

It's happening girls. And all your whining, moaning and crying will not alter it.
SUCK IT UP!!!!!
You clearly have a funny idea of what “arguing” means. You might want to go look it up, although dictionaries are written by experts and we all know how you feel about those.
Old 22 December 2017, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Bit of an empty win given that the colour of the passport is not an EU requirement, so they could have changed it anyway and never needed to change the colour in the first place! But still, is the first time so far the Brexiteers have actually got something they voted for in the whole Brexit process so enjoy your new irrelevantly coloured passports
we have gone from a passport that gave us the right to live and work in 28 countries to a passport that reduces that right to just 1

but it is blue!!! yay

and to team thicko that is seen as a victory!!!!!
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Seems to be, that people don't give a monkeys about the colour and doesn't represent a national symbol. So why all the vitriol over something that doesn't mean anything. Or is it that it just winds up remoamers, that leaving the EU is really happening and the new passport is actually minor but very much significant.
Old 22 December 2017, 08:00 PM
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Maggie May is very keen to point out the blueness ! .....keep brexiters onside

as is faridge ..



( sucked in again )

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Old 22 December 2017, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
I DON'T CARE either way! We are going.

But as for anyone who reads the Guardian....LOL

And anyone who QUOTES it: wnaker.
Thankyou for illustrating the depth of your stupidity, once again. It is not an opinion piece, it is the paper quoting someone.

Using your logic, if The Guardian reported a ship sinking, it couldn't have happened.

As for you not caring, that is up to you, but are you seriously saying you don't care if the economy tanked just so we could leave the EU? If so, then you are even more stupid than I thought. I didn't actually think that was possible, but you never cease to showcase your stupidity. It's some talent, I have to say.
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Originally Posted by andy97
Seems to be, that people don't give a monkeys about the colour and doesn't represent a national symbol. So why all the vitriol over something that doesn't mean anything. Or is it that it just winds up remoamers, that leaving the EU is really happening and the new passport is actually minor but very much significant.
Doesn't wind us up, we just find it hilarious that the colour of a passport is so important to Brexiteers, particularly when it could have been that colour all along

I've never seen a passport as a national symbol, its merely an official document that allows me to travel to other countries. What it looks like is of no significance to me!
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Doesn't wind us up, we just find it hilarious that the colour of a passport is so important to Brexiteers, particularly when it could have been that colour all along

I've never seen a passport as a national symbol, its merely an official document that allows me to travel to other countries. What it looks like is of no significance to me!
To be fair, if you were completely thick, then you'd also see this as some sort of magic moment.
Old 23 December 2017, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
As for you not caring, that is up to you, but are you seriously saying you don't care if the economy tanked .
They don't care

It helps if you view Brexit as a religion

Built on evidence-less faith
Old 23 December 2017, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
They don't care

It helps if you view Brexit as a religion

Built on evidence-less faith
But we'll have a blue passport, that will save the economy. Right?


Quick Reply: So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.



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