dpb

Can you imagine all UK expats in Europe being forced out by end the week , if they've no extended health insurance !!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7602191.html

dpb

I'm wondering just what other Shiite the home office have up their sleeve to curtail naturalization quals

dpb

Peerage ! , id thought traitors gate be more appropriate.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.tel...ll-thrown/amp/


Anyway.

trails

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It's a terrible shame when the 'old boys' network fails eh...

Paben

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A quick glance at the headline as it revealed itself and I thought it was saying 'Nigel Farage calls for Douglas Carswell to be thrown out of the window'. If only, and he could throw himself out after him

dpb

What a shame IRA didn't get Tebbit

BMWhere?

Finally a bit of common sense, the Lords have amended the Brexit bill to guarantee the rights of EU members living in the UK. People shouldn't be used as bargaining chips and protecting their right to remain regardless of any other agreements may be a fantastic olive branch which sets the negotiations off on the right foot!

JackClark

What I'd like to see is a list of benefits of leaving, there must be one right?

JTaylor

Take back our sovereignty.

British jobs for British people.

Free trade with the rest of the world.

Independence.

Restore democracy.

No more unelected Eurocrats.

Brussels.

Sovereignty.

Secure borders.

Brussels.

dpb

All those benefits will be worth the extra cost of going it alone ,


apparently





of course there's always a price to pay for exclusivity

JackClark

Easy mistake, I was looking for things we don't have already.

hodgy0_2

a benefit could be the removal of the Block Exemption Regulation which forced vehicle manufactures to honour warranties when serviced outside the dealer network (and allowed independents access to vehicle diagnostics)

no more pesky independent garages - we can go back to main dealer servicing


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_...ion_Regulation

The Block Exemption Regulation is an exemption in a business line or industry, which debars organizations in the industry from some business activities in order to create competition. The regulation is highly known in the automobile industry due to the effect caused by the Block Exemption Regulation (BER) from the European Commission.[1][2] BER has changed the automobile industry in the last decade.[3] Prior to 2003 automobile owners in the EU region risk nullifying their vehicle warranty when the vehicles were serviced or repaired in workshops not belonging to the vehicle manufacturer or its dealers. This barrier was broken in October 2003, when the European Commission (EC) passed a law allowing vehicle owners the freedom of having their servicing and repairs done at their chosen workshop.[4]

http://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/...epair-campaign

BMWhere?

One mans benefit is another mans loss!

Much will depend on how the government moves to fill the void left from leaving the single market and on the extent of the trading deal, if any, we can negotiate with the EU. Other trading deals are unlikely to greatly benefit the UK - with any large countries like US and China, we'll get the worse side of the deal as we have to fully open our doors while only getting limited access to their markets. For smaller markets like Australia or NZ, we might get the better deal, but to a relatively tiny market!

Immigration numbers are unlikely to change unless the economy rally falls on its ar$e and the current levels of immigration are required to support the levels of growth given the low birth rate of the domestic population. The only big change we'll see to immigration is likely to be less EU immigrants with similar culture to ours in favour of cheaper immigrants from poorer countries with conflicting cultures. - Although some people will see cheaper immigrant labour as one advantage to Brexit!

dpb

Yep, you'll alll have take up Mandarin and Bantu and Hindi

dpb

**** a duck , it gets worse - bloody sleaze ball Hamiltons lol


http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...cid=spartanntp

joz8968

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Apparently, when (if?) Art.50 gets triggered, the UK is NOT legally obliged to contribute a penny, to facilitate its withdrawal.

dpb

and eu not obliged to give us any favourable trade deals ?

dpb

just looking at some jeans, made in USA , sold from Ireland - bought this time last year 38 quid , now 50 quid

mus be our special relationship

ditchmyster

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More likely to be Serbians, Bosnians, Georgians.

joz8968

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This would be the crux, of course.

Regardless, knowing the UK, we'll no doubt pay the full amount (and probably more for good measure) - because "we're British, don't you know."






... And prob still get rubbish trade deals, into the bargain.

Ho hum.

legb4rsk

This is what worries me.I have no confidence in the idiots in Westminster being able to make a deal.They are the ones who have sold off many of our national reserves for a pittance (rail privatisation ?We are paying more to them than when we had British Rail).Most have little or no experience in real world trading or business.They would be better off recruiting some used car dealers to front the negotiating team.

hodgy0_2

it is abundantly clear that the UK politicians do not have clue how Europe and the EU work, so they will always be on the back foot

simply watch Ivan Rodgers testimony to the Brexit committee

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/I...5-5055b36c3ac7

about 10 mins in Rogers had to explain to the MP's that if your car MOT runs out on 31st March, you are driving it illegally on the 1st April - FULL STOP, no matter how hard you try and tell Plod that it is still in the same condition as the previous day

when plod writes you a ticket he is not being mean he is simply applying the law

amazing our politicians have not worked that out!!!!

it was like a teacher explaining a spherical earth to a bunch of five year olds

David Lock

UK politicians and the Civil Service are totally out of their depth when it comes to negotiating or investigating and everything takes about 3 times longer than it should. Witness Levison, umpteen NHS negligence claims and the latest kiddy sex thing which will take years and end when many of the abused kids will have died from old age.


Does anyone seriously expect that May's boys are going to agree anything worthwhile with 27 countries all with their own agendas in any acceptable time frame. It just ain't going to happen. It's all an effing waste of time. May is just too stupid to realise this and hasn't a clue how the world works. You may hate Blair but what he said is spot on.


David

dpb

But she's got the gig going hasn't she ??

she didn't even want leave


I doubt being PM was absolutely top of her agenda either

joz8968

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neil-h

So any bets on how long it takes PSA to start using jobs at Vauxhall to leverage money/conditions for the Brexit negotiations (or am I just being cynical)?

dpb

is not going to get any cheaper for them to make cars here after we leave ....


theres too many plants in free trade area as it is !

ALi-B

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All good on principal but the actuality of it all is not brilliant to say the least:

If that warranty is provided by the dealership network instead after the second/third year, see the small print on Kia and Hyundai's 5 and 7 year warranties. See how you get when you make a claim.

Also have you ever used VAG's Erwin? Or BMW's online servicing registration...Or Subarus, or Mercedes? Allowed Independant data/diagnostics access (chargeable) and the same access level a franchise can obtain are two very different things, often to the point it's not even worth bothering with.

Unless you have personal experience on this matter contrary to my own....

dpb

Will roaming charges still be going in June ?

^Qwerty^

Personally I don't think leaving the EU would have or will make any difference to this. The French will (always) look after their own first, so if there are savings or rationalisations to be made, I'd put the UK plants at the top of the list of closures.

And who knows if there is any truth that the EU gave grants for Peugeot to set up in Slovakia and thus shut Ryton back in 2006, albeit it was for a different model?