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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 09:47 PM
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Just keep the cash and goods , and give the finger like the Welsh did ?

. No nuclear investment ...or anything else - so buying power off them !


Still , at least we'll have missed those 81m Turks landing on our doorsteps

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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
I don't want to be paying them £39bn or free movement of people or having laws set in Brussels hence the only way I get my way is a no deal. I couldn't give a **** about free trade if it comes at the cost of all the things I don't want. Free trade works both ways if they want to start imposing trade tariffs. Plus we don't have to buy or sell anything from/to the EU, the rest of the World is a considerably bigger market
We already sell to the rest of the world, 46% of our trade is with the EU, so you obviously being some sort of economic expert have a cunning plan to mitigate the huge loss to the economy by not trading with the EU, whilst trying to make up that shortfall with countries we already trade with

It really does beggar belief the total lack of understanding of how we trade now, why we cannot suddenly stop trading with the EU. It's almost as if...........

Free trade does work both ways, you are correct, and so does WTO, so either way, we are equal in what comes after Brexit. However, 17% of their trade vs 46% of ours, I'm sure you can see the problem.
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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji

Free trade does work both ways, you are correct, and so does WTO, so either way, we are equal in what comes after Brexit. However, 17% of their trade vs 46% of ours, I'm sure you can see the problem.
He cant see the problem as he is a big of a stupid d1ck as Alcazar is.
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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
We already sell to the rest of the world, 46% of our trade is with the EU, so you obviously being some sort of economic expert have a cunning plan to mitigate the huge loss to the economy by not trading with the EU, whilst trying to make up that shortfall with countries we already trade with

It really does beggar belief the total lack of understanding of how we trade now, why we cannot suddenly stop trading with the EU. It's almost as if...........

Free trade does work both ways, you are correct, and so does WTO, so either way, we are equal in what comes after Brexit. However, 17% of their trade vs 46% of ours, I'm sure you can see the problem.
If you read what I put I didn't say we should stop trading with them, I was hinting at them being ***** and starting a tariff war. Hasn't gone well between the US and China and so the EU thinking they can price us out with tariffs won't work. As for the insults that's fine i'll leave it here as that's all remoaners seem capable of and i'm not interested in debating with those who think they are above everyone else when they don't even read what's been put properly and then throw insults.
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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
He cant see the problem as he is a big of a stupid d1ck as Alcazar is.
Oh look my point exactly. And you're a cvnt See doesn't get the debate far does it?
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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 06:45 AM
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There are never any answers from the leave direction.
The answer is we leave fully on the 29 March and use WTO. The irish border is a non issue so trading with WTO. The EU are terrified of losing a regular large sum from the UK and more importantly a huge world economy sat on their doorstep and having absolutely no financial or political control over what it does in the future. Companies will want to continue trading with the UK and vice versa. 13% of UK exports are with the EU, overall trading in percentage with the EU has been in decline for over a decade and dropped by over 10%. If we get to WTO, a lot of these so called issues will fizzle away in a few months and life will continue tomorrow as it did yesterday for the vast majority of us.
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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 08:15 AM
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So 87 % of our exports go to countries outside EU do they!
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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 08:54 AM
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Probably right though

secluded country living with no grasp on every day living ,surviving on fresh air and sunshine

you wont feel a thing !
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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
If you read what I put I didn't say we should stop trading with them, I was hinting at them being ***** and starting a tariff war. Hasn't gone well between the US and China and so the EU thinking they can price us out with tariffs won't work. As for the insults that's fine i'll leave it here as that's all remoaners seem capable of and i'm not interested in debating with those who think they are above everyone else when they don't even read what's been put properly and then throw insults.
Just curious, but in the extensive research you've clearly been doing on this subject, have you come across any discussion anywhere with regards to the point that the bigger issue with trade is compliance with product safety regulations and the like, and not tariffs at all?

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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 10:17 AM
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This is quite a fair appraisal, puts a few myths to bed as well.

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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
If you read what I put I didn't say we should stop trading with them, I was hinting at them being ***** and starting a tariff war. Hasn't gone well between the US and China and so the EU thinking they can price us out with tariffs won't work. As for the insults that's fine i'll leave it here as that's all remoaners seem capable of and i'm not interested in debating with those who think they are above everyone else when they don't even read what's been put properly and then throw insults.
Really? How about
Plus we don't have to buy or sell anything from/to the EU, the rest of the World is a considerably bigger market
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The EU will be much worse off than us if they wanted to lock the UK out trading with them
Yes, a tariff war has not gone well, but both sides are losing out. With two equal economies, they can slug it out. We might be a big single economy, but we are not compared to the EU as a whole. Our economy is about $3.3 trillion, the EU is about $18.5 trillion (second only to the US), who do you think is going to come out on top in that?

You haven't actually answered any of the problems posed, you just come back with the fact that the EU are bullies (because they don't give you exactly what you, but a moment's thought will demonstrate.....), you think any outcome is worth it as long as you end freedom of movement (despite if being good for the economy, so I can only take a guess at why that would be) or 'ruled by Brussels', despite the fact that the UK has MEPs, elected by us, the European Commission is wholly made up of people appointed by governments we voted for, we have the power of veto and we are involved in the law making process. OK, I get that some people don't like the primacy of EU law over UK law, but point out all the laws that have had a detriment to your life that the EU has passed, and why they are bad for the country.

You contradict yourself, accuse people of accusing you of saying things you did't when you did, then cry about it and flounce off.

As you say, you do have a right to your opinions, but when you say stuff that is wrong, people are gonna call you out over it.
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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
The answer is we leave fully on the 29 March and use WTO. The irish border is a non issue so trading with WTO. The EU are terrified of losing a regular large sum from the UK and more importantly a huge world economy sat on their doorstep and having absolutely no financial or political control over what it does in the future. Companies will want to continue trading with the UK and vice versa. 13% of UK exports are with the EU, overall trading in percentage with the EU has been in decline for over a decade and dropped by over 10%. If we get to WTO, a lot of these so called issues will fizzle away in a few months and life will continue tomorrow as it did yesterday for the vast majority of us.
That's not an answer though is it; it's a finger in the air hoping 'these so called issues will fizzle away in a few months'. I guess if you have a few million in cash and assets you are assured your way of life won't be adversely affected...the vast majority do not have such a robust safteynet.
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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
And the only answer from the remoaners is to bend over and take it from the EU for eternity.
Lolz I couldn't have illustrated my point any better than that; good work fella
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Old Jan 23, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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Im sure people who actually have to deal with the aftermath wouldnt agree

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46971390
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Old Jan 23, 2019 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Im sure people who actually have to deal with the aftermath wouldnt agree

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46971390
A small number of people may violently protest if we don't honour the referendum!

A large number of people will violently protest if the country turns to **** with a no-deal and massive job losses and they feel lied to!
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Old Jan 23, 2019 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
A small number of people may violently protest if we don't honour the referendum!

A large number of people will violently protest if the country turns to **** with a no-deal and massive job losses and they feel lied to!
Hmmm, a label is required to dismiss the teeth knashing of the leavers anxiety at the possibility of not leaving the EU...lets call it Project Fear

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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 08:28 AM
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How do we replace these companies, if it's true


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...756.html%3famp
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
How do we replace these companies, if it's true


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...756.html%3famp
Project Fear mate innit.
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 08:58 AM
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after watching this, and the bloke has no reason to lie, i think out by any means is the best option
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
after watching this, and the bloke has no reason to lie,
It's not like he's trying to sell a book or anything.
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
after watching this, and the bloke has no reason to lie, i think out by any means is the best option
https://youtu.be/nGt82RFfg3U
He only went to the trouble of writing it in English so he could arm us with knowledge...nothing to do with the vast size of market for material in English in comparison to Greek.

Everyone has an agenda.
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
after watching this, and the bloke has no reason to lie, i think out by any means is the best option
But we're not in the Eurozone. His advice to UK regarding the referendum was to vote remain, in order to be able to join other countries in reforming from within. Refreshing to see a link from you from a left wing economist rather than Katy Hopkins though. At least he knows his subject.
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 08:38 PM
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Business are now getting very itchy feet
Brexit uncertainty is a disgrace, says Airbus
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 08:56 PM
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Welsh don't want jobs !
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 10:01 PM
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I hate the word Brexit. Whoever coined it needs the ice bucket challenge
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Business are now getting very itchy feet
Brexit uncertainty is a disgrace, says Airbus
No, think this nonsense will just run and run. And run. And run

And run.Aaargh
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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 04:57 AM
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The clarion call of the brexiteer, No more low skilled migration !

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...371.html%3famp
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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 07:41 AM
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The clarion call of the brexiteer, No more low skilled migration !

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...371.html%3famp
Irony is heavy on that one.
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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
The clarion call of the brexiteer, No more low skilled migration !

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...371.html%3famp
All those oldies who voted Leave will have no one to care for them
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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 02:57 PM
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Dunkirk Spirit!
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