So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.
Just keep the cash and goods , and give the finger like the Welsh did ?
. No nuclear investment ...or anything else - so buying power off them !
Still , at least we'll have missed those 81m Turks landing on our doorsteps
. No nuclear investment ...or anything else - so buying power off them !
Still , at least we'll have missed those 81m Turks landing on our doorsteps
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I don't want to be paying them £39bn or free movement of people or having laws set in Brussels hence the only way I get my way is a no deal. I couldn't give a **** about free trade if it comes at the cost of all the things I don't want. Free trade works both ways if they want to start imposing trade tariffs. Plus we don't have to buy or sell anything from/to the EU, the rest of the World is a considerably bigger market 


It really does beggar belief the total lack of understanding of how we trade now, why we cannot suddenly stop trading with the EU. It's almost as if...........
Free trade does work both ways, you are correct, and so does WTO, so either way, we are equal in what comes after Brexit. However, 17% of their trade vs 46% of ours, I'm sure you can see the problem.
We already sell to the rest of the world, 46% of our trade is with the EU, so you obviously being some sort of economic expert have a cunning plan to mitigate the huge loss to the economy by not trading with the EU, whilst trying to make up that shortfall with countries we already trade with 
It really does beggar belief the total lack of understanding of how we trade now, why we cannot suddenly stop trading with the EU. It's almost as if...........
Free trade does work both ways, you are correct, and so does WTO, so either way, we are equal in what comes after Brexit. However, 17% of their trade vs 46% of ours, I'm sure you can see the problem.

It really does beggar belief the total lack of understanding of how we trade now, why we cannot suddenly stop trading with the EU. It's almost as if...........
Free trade does work both ways, you are correct, and so does WTO, so either way, we are equal in what comes after Brexit. However, 17% of their trade vs 46% of ours, I'm sure you can see the problem.
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The answer is we leave fully on the 29 March and use WTO. The irish border is a non issue so trading with WTO. The EU are terrified of losing a regular large sum from the UK and more importantly a huge world economy sat on their doorstep and having absolutely no financial or political control over what it does in the future. Companies will want to continue trading with the UK and vice versa. 13% of UK exports are with the EU, overall trading in percentage with the EU has been in decline for over a decade and dropped by over 10%. If we get to WTO, a lot of these so called issues will fizzle away in a few months and life will continue tomorrow as it did yesterday for the vast majority of us.
If you read what I put I didn't say we should stop trading with them, I was hinting at them being ***** and starting a tariff war. Hasn't gone well between the US and China and so the EU thinking they can price us out with tariffs won't work. As for the insults that's fine i'll leave it here as that's all remoaners seem capable of and i'm not interested in debating with those who think they are above everyone else when they don't even read what's been put properly and then throw insults.
If you read what I put I didn't say we should stop trading with them, I was hinting at them being ***** and starting a tariff war. Hasn't gone well between the US and China and so the EU thinking they can price us out with tariffs won't work. As for the insults that's fine i'll leave it here as that's all remoaners seem capable of and i'm not interested in debating with those who think they are above everyone else when they don't even read what's been put properly and then throw insults.
Plus we don't have to buy or sell anything from/to the EU, the rest of the World is a considerably bigger market
The EU will be much worse off than us if they wanted to lock the UK out trading with them
You haven't actually answered any of the problems posed, you just come back with the fact that the EU are bullies (because they don't give you exactly what you, but a moment's thought will demonstrate.....), you think any outcome is worth it as long as you end freedom of movement (despite if being good for the economy, so I can only take a guess at why that would be) or 'ruled by Brussels', despite the fact that the UK has MEPs, elected by us, the European Commission is wholly made up of people appointed by governments we voted for, we have the power of veto and we are involved in the law making process. OK, I get that some people don't like the primacy of EU law over UK law, but point out all the laws that have had a detriment to your life that the EU has passed, and why they are bad for the country.
You contradict yourself, accuse people of accusing you of saying things you did't when you did, then cry about it and flounce off.
As you say, you do have a right to your opinions, but when you say stuff that is wrong, people are gonna call you out over it.
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The answer is we leave fully on the 29 March and use WTO. The irish border is a non issue so trading with WTO. The EU are terrified of losing a regular large sum from the UK and more importantly a huge world economy sat on their doorstep and having absolutely no financial or political control over what it does in the future. Companies will want to continue trading with the UK and vice versa. 13% of UK exports are with the EU, overall trading in percentage with the EU has been in decline for over a decade and dropped by over 10%. If we get to WTO, a lot of these so called issues will fizzle away in a few months and life will continue tomorrow as it did yesterday for the vast majority of us.
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Im sure people who actually have to deal with the aftermath wouldnt agree
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46971390
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46971390
Im sure people who actually have to deal with the aftermath wouldnt agree
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46971390
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46971390
A large number of people will violently protest if the country turns to **** with a no-deal and massive job losses and they feel lied to!
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How do we replace these companies, if it's true
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...756.html%3famp
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...756.html%3famp
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How do we replace these companies, if it's true
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...756.html%3famp
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...756.html%3famp
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after watching this, and the bloke has no reason to lie, i think out by any means is the best option
https://youtu.be/nGt82RFfg3U
https://youtu.be/nGt82RFfg3U
Everyone has an agenda.
But we're not in the Eurozone. His advice to UK regarding the referendum was to vote remain, in order to be able to join other countries in reforming from within. Refreshing to see a link from you from a left wing economist rather than Katy Hopkins though. At least he knows his subject.
Business are now getting very itchy feet
Brexit uncertainty is a disgrace, says Airbus
Brexit uncertainty is a disgrace, says Airbus
And run.Aaargh
The clarion call of the brexiteer, No more low skilled migration !
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...371.html%3famp
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...371.html%3famp
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The clarion call of the brexiteer, No more low skilled migration !
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...371.html%3famp
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...371.html%3famp
The clarion call of the brexiteer, No more low skilled migration !
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...371.html%3famp
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...371.html%3famp







