Tips
#31
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Got stung in America once ...
Had a meal with 6 people. Got the bill and added a tip on top.
Only afterwards one of the other people I was with checked the bill and found they had added the tip already.
Cheeky bleeders...
Wont get caught like that again.
It should be optional. And whats the over 6 people add 10-15% gratuity all about. Surely serving 6 around one table is easier than having 3 tables of 2 to look after. Yanks ehhhh....
Had a meal with 6 people. Got the bill and added a tip on top.
Only afterwards one of the other people I was with checked the bill and found they had added the tip already.
Cheeky bleeders...
Wont get caught like that again.
It should be optional. And whats the over 6 people add 10-15% gratuity all about. Surely serving 6 around one table is easier than having 3 tables of 2 to look after. Yanks ehhhh....
#33
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I used to be a waiter almost 30yrs ago
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My weekly wage was £75 take home, I'd make anywhere between £30 and £60 a day in tips, I got the record after a while which was £80 odd quid for a split shift, there were about 4/5 of us out of 10/12 waiters that regularly made that sort of money, the rest thought they were doing good if they got £20, we used to lie about what we made as we were on more than the manager.
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I used to leave the change as in any coins for my bus boy/girl and they all wanted to be on when we were, which was part of the secret to doing well, my tables were always cleaned immediately and my bus station was always full and good to go and they watched tables too, having the kitchen staff on side helps too, I'd make sure they had fresh cold pitchers regularly too
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We'd take them out and get them into clubs free and free drinks as we knew bouncers and staff from all the "IN" places as a lot were customers and drank for free with us too, ah the good old days.
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I think if you give good service and are always on top of what is happening at your tables people appreciate it, I know I do, nothing worse than sitting waiting, forgetting part of your order, plates on the table when you've finished eating, having to attract your waiters attention when you want another drink, they should know and pay attention to where you are in your meal, how far down your glass you are and be ready to serve you.
I was trained properly by a woman that was a professional waitress and I think most people don't have a clue what good service is until they meet someone that takes the job seriously and are on the receiving end of it.
Regulars would ask and indeed wait to be on mine and a few others section, that's what good service does.
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your reply reminded me that my dad worked in a bar in the 60's, he would start pulling pints of guiness 15 mins before a group of lads came in after their shift, when they got there the pints were nearly settled and all he had to do was top them up and the lads could sit straight down and have a drink. he had the gift of the gab, always asked regulars about their day at work, if anyone came in that he hadn't seen before, he would chat the them and make them feel welcomed, by the time they left, they felt like regulars.
service like this earns the tip. when staff go the extra mile, not just do their job
#34
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I fully agree, when they get 6-10 people that's more bisuness for restaurant, restaurant makes more money and fills the place up. And then they try charge you more money?
It just shocks me how there allowed to add that on. If I go somewhere like home base and ask for help finding things I need I don't expect the cashier to add 10% on the bill, but as soon as food not DIY stuff it's fine. Blows my mind
It just shocks me how there allowed to add that on. If I go somewhere like home base and ask for help finding things I need I don't expect the cashier to add 10% on the bill, but as soon as food not DIY stuff it's fine. Blows my mind
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I'll say it again BIG tables DO NOT make more money, they are also LOUD and sometimes abusive, especially once they have a few drinks inside them.
You have to put 2/3/4 tables together to cater for them and they usually stay just about all night, they may drink higher volumes but it's usually beer or cheap wine and they generally eat the cheap stuff on the menu too and throw a quid in each for the tip.
So let me break it down for you, each of those tables that got put together would of had at least 2/3 covers over the same time period sometimes 4. A couple are more likely to buy a nice bottle of wine and eat the posh stuff off the menu as well as leave a fiver tip.
So from the restaurants point of view they sell less food and from the waiters point of view you make 10 quid as opposed to up to £80 over 4 tables.
That's why my section was always the 2's by the window looking out over the canal.![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
Think about it, bloke takes a bird out to a nice restaurant it's usually a special occasion or first date and he's hoping to get lucky and impress, so splashes the cash and wants out as quickly as possible, also it's a good thing if she's a little tipsy, so posh wine and shorts coffee liquore![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
Unless your an amateur.
You have to put 2/3/4 tables together to cater for them and they usually stay just about all night, they may drink higher volumes but it's usually beer or cheap wine and they generally eat the cheap stuff on the menu too and throw a quid in each for the tip.
So let me break it down for you, each of those tables that got put together would of had at least 2/3 covers over the same time period sometimes 4. A couple are more likely to buy a nice bottle of wine and eat the posh stuff off the menu as well as leave a fiver tip.
So from the restaurants point of view they sell less food and from the waiters point of view you make 10 quid as opposed to up to £80 over 4 tables.
That's why my section was always the 2's by the window looking out over the canal.
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Think about it, bloke takes a bird out to a nice restaurant it's usually a special occasion or first date and he's hoping to get lucky and impress, so splashes the cash and wants out as quickly as possible, also it's a good thing if she's a little tipsy, so posh wine and shorts coffee liquore
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Unless your an amateur.
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Last edited by ditchmyster; 12 March 2015 at 07:56 AM.
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I think it depends on what kind of restaurant your talking about, i personally don't spend any more or less money regardless of size of party, and i don't know any of my mates who do either, first date yea sure.
But regardless of the reason it still doesn't explain why extra is added onto the bill, just can't see how companies can get away with it, if companies what to charge more for larger parties then this should be clearly stated when book tables etc but i can't see that going down well
But regardless of the reason it still doesn't explain why extra is added onto the bill, just can't see how companies can get away with it, if companies what to charge more for larger parties then this should be clearly stated when book tables etc but i can't see that going down well
I'll say it again BIG tables DO NOT make more money, they are also LOUD and sometimes abusive, especially once they have a few drinks inside them.
You have to put 2/3/4 tables together to cater for them and they usually stay just about all night, they may drink higher volumes but it's usually beer or cheap wine and they generally eat the cheap stuff on the menu too and throw a quid in each for the tip.
So let me break it down for you, each of those tables that got put together would of had at least 2/3 covers over the same time period sometimes 4. A couple are more likely to buy a nice bottle of wine and eat the posh stuff off the menu as well as leave a fiver tip.
So from the restaurants point of view they sell less food and from the waiters point of view you make 10 quid as opposed to up to £80 over 4 tables.
That's why my section was always the 2's by the window looking out over the canal.![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
Think about it, bloke takes a bird out to a nice restaurant it's usually a special occasion or first date and he's hoping to get lucky and impress, so splashes the cash and wants out as quickly as possible, also it's a good thing if she's a little tipsy, so posh wine and shorts coffee liquore![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
Unless your an amateur.![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
You have to put 2/3/4 tables together to cater for them and they usually stay just about all night, they may drink higher volumes but it's usually beer or cheap wine and they generally eat the cheap stuff on the menu too and throw a quid in each for the tip.
So let me break it down for you, each of those tables that got put together would of had at least 2/3 covers over the same time period sometimes 4. A couple are more likely to buy a nice bottle of wine and eat the posh stuff off the menu as well as leave a fiver tip.
So from the restaurants point of view they sell less food and from the waiters point of view you make 10 quid as opposed to up to £80 over 4 tables.
That's why my section was always the 2's by the window looking out over the canal.
![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
Think about it, bloke takes a bird out to a nice restaurant it's usually a special occasion or first date and he's hoping to get lucky and impress, so splashes the cash and wants out as quickly as possible, also it's a good thing if she's a little tipsy, so posh wine and shorts coffee liquore
![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
Unless your an amateur.
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#37
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Tbh we used to refuse big parties unless they were regulars and just tell them we're fully booked, they're a pain in the **** for the most part and cause a ripple effect with other customers, kitchen staff have to get 10/15 meals out at the same time well done steaks take 15 mins chicken takes 5 etc etc, big mix of orders, it's a lot easier to do 5x 2 than 1x10/15 ![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
And like I said they tie 3/4 tables up for most of the busy period and your lucky if you get another cover out of 3/4 tables so that's a potential for at least double the income from those tables, each one of those tables could do up to 16 people a night and you have 4 of them tied up by 10 people, it's just not good business.
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And like I said they tie 3/4 tables up for most of the busy period and your lucky if you get another cover out of 3/4 tables so that's a potential for at least double the income from those tables, each one of those tables could do up to 16 people a night and you have 4 of them tied up by 10 people, it's just not good business.
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I think you have the right idea, I'd prefer to be turned away than charged extra. What kind of restaurant was it?
Most of the time if i go in a party of 8 people it's to Chinese or Indian or a cheap pub nothing special, went starda with some mates but the place was empty
Most of the time if i go in a party of 8 people it's to Chinese or Indian or a cheap pub nothing special, went starda with some mates but the place was empty
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if you go to somewhere decent, with decent staff, how do you manage to walk in and get a table for 8?
in the good places around us I need to book the week before for a table for 4. they would laugh if a group of 8 turned up and expected to get a table
if a group of 8 can turn up and get a table, the place isn't that great
in the good places around us I need to book the week before for a table for 4. they would laugh if a group of 8 turned up and expected to get a table
if a group of 8 can turn up and get a table, the place isn't that great
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All depends what day you go, most Chinese and Indians around my area are empty on any day. If I'm taking my lady out its normally to a nice place.
If I'm going out with load mates then it's normally pub nothing special. Either way unless your getting outstanding service then tips are pointless
If I'm going out with load mates then it's normally pub nothing special. Either way unless your getting outstanding service then tips are pointless
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