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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs

He IS talking about the Brembos you tit.
Yes I was, but I have K sports fitted now

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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Yes I was, but I have K sports fitted now
Oh dear, only advantage with them is their a bit lighter, and not many pad choices.
Stick some rc6 pads in Brembos and its night and day. Also pads like pagid rs, carbotech.

The endless pads are coming to my attention too now but limited on what cars they fit. More for super cars.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:38 AM
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I've run with both Ksports with DS2500 pads and Brembos with PF discs and PF pads.....The brembo's were a better setup IMO and were fitted to a lot heavier car.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jayallen
I've run with both Ksports with DS2500 pads and Brembos with PF discs and PF pads.....The brembo's were a better setup IMO and were fitted to a lot heavier car.
The PF discs and PF pads are a good combination together and I've never seen 1 single bad review with that set up.
The ds2500 are not really an amazing set up (common pad deposits and you need to stamp hard to get a good bite)
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Oh dear, only advantage with them is their a bit lighter, and not many pad choices.
I don't see any reason to be disappointed. I have PF-Z pads fitted and they are fantastic. I run AD08 tyres on track and that combination with the brakes will pull your face off, not a case of 'Oh dear' in any respect. If I had AP Racing brakes no one would question it. Of course they aren't the same as AP's, but then they aren't the same price as AP's either

If I had intended to use the car solely on the road I would have happily stayed with the brembos, but brembos do have a limit on track as do the Ks, but the K sport brakes have a higher limit.
K sports are no lighter with 355mm discs.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Carnut
A nice boy i know took me for a ride in his 400bhp RS.
NIce was he? Did he entice you with some sweeties.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jayallen
I've run with both Ksports with DS2500 pads and Brembos with PF discs and PF pads.....The brembo's were a better setup IMO and were fitted to a lot heavier car.
I tried brembos with DS2500 pads and was very disappointed, hence the change to PFs.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:48 AM
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Got to love these threads
Its nice having a blast but as a comparison lets look at some figures (ive used the P1 as its a UK car and has the same power as all v5 STI's)

http://www.torquestats.com/index.php?car_id=196

v the RS

http://www.torquestats.com/index.php?car_id=600

Note in gear times and 60-100 times, this denotes which one is the quicker car, 0-60 will always be a 4/AWD over a FWD.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Yes I was, but I have K sports fitted now
thats why i asked you and not moobs, someone with proper experienc of both set ups
id agree with what you say totally though.
exactly the same on the road but dont fade when hot so therefore probably a touch better

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Originally Posted by Blue by You
I don't see any reason to be disappointed. I have PF-Z pads fitted and they are fantastic. I run AD08 tyres on track and that combination with the brakes will pull your face off, not a case of 'Oh dear' in any respect. If I had AP Racing brakes no one would question it. Of course they aren't the same as AP's, but then they aren't the same price as AP's either

If I had intended to use the car solely on the road I would have happily stayed with the brembos, but brembos do have a limit on track as do the Ks, but the K sport brakes have a higher limit.
K sports are no lighter with 355mm discs.
The 'oh dear' quote was merely suggesting why bother changing to them when you had a capable set up already, you just needed to fit a better combination for your needs.
I don't agree that the Brembos have their limits on track as I had pushed them so hard at cadwell non stop for nearly an hour with rc6 pads and they were still working well from when I first started, my tyres melted before any sign of fade.
But indeed the benefit is weight as the Brembos do weigh a bit.
The ap of course are top dog if you have the money to spend for the ace looks under the wheels and capabilities.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jayallen
I've run with both Ksports with DS2500 pads and Brembos with PF discs and PF pads.....The brembo's were a better setup IMO and were fitted to a lot heavier car.
they were the older style k sports though, the build quality has improved since then.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
thats why i asked you and not moobs, someone with proper experienc of both set ups
id agree with what you say totally though.
exactly the same on the road but dont fade when hot so therefore probably a touch better
They will only fade when the pad hits the limit though (hence fitting a pad that goes beyond that limit)
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
thats why i asked you and not moobs, someone with proper experienc of both set ups
id agree with what you say totally though.
exactly the same on the road but dont fade when hot so therefore probably a touch better
TBH when I first fitted them I thought I had wasted a pile of money as they didn't feel any better on the road than the brembos. But as said on track they are appreciably better imho.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
they were the older style k sports though, the build quality has improved since then.
But aren't they still Chinese crap like the bc's you say?
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
TBH when I first fitted them I thought I had wasted a pile of money as they didn't feel any better on the road than the brembos. But as said on track they are appreciably better imho.
yup i agree feel identical on road but thats no bad thing.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
But aren't they still Chinese crap like the bc's you say?
thats the thing moobs im not a sheep ill buy it and try it, if its crap it goes in the bin.
had bcs ........crap
had xxr 527s......crap

both sh1te in MY OPINION having had them and got rid.

ksport/d2 are fine and do the job intended if not they would have gone the same route as the bcs and xxrs
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
yup i agree feel identical on road but thats no bad thing.
The wrx 4 pots feel identical on road until you get some heat in them
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
thats the thing moobs im not a sheep ill buy it and try it, if its crap it goes in the bin.
had bcs ........crap
had xxr 527s......crap

both sh1te in MY OPINION having had them and got rid.

ksport/d2 are fine and do the job intended if not they would have gone the same route as the bcs and xxrs
You loved your bc's for ages iirc before you realised. (P.s what suspension are you running now?)
Xxrs, agree, you cottoned on quickly with them you just followed the fashion. Well posh chav an all that
I'll await when you have a fault with the KS before you mock them too and didn't you buy KS because of the helicoil problem on Brembos?

P.s I'm not mocking the KS, I'm just winding you up as I know you love it.

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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
The wrx 4 pots feel identical on road until you get some heat in them
One of the scariest things I have done in an Impreza was to drive a standard 02 WRX after having the uprated brakes on my car. Jeeeeeeeeeeez I thought it was never going to stop
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
You loved your bc's for ages iirc before you realised. (P.s what suspension are you running now?)
Xxrs, agree, you cottoned on quickly with them you just followed the fashion. Well posh chav an all that
I'll await when you have a fault with the KS before you mock them too

P.s I'm not mocking the KS, I'm just winding you up as I know you love it.
the issues with the bcs was knocking and too harsh for the road, ok when new and fell apart after a year.
i bought the xxrs before they became everywhere,hated them instantly and sold soon after, cheap nasty made ill fitting crap.
i dont have ks mine are the d2 ones and have been on 2 years now and without a single issue so much so i now have the 6 pot rears too match.
if i had a problem like i did with the bcs id bin them and tell people of my experiences not just spout stuff ive read somewhere
the brakes work just as well on the road as brembos but are lighter and have the added advantage that you can take them off without the bolts snapping and requiring a helicoil.

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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
One of the scariest things I have done in an Impreza was to drive a standard 02 WRX after having the uprated brakes on my car. Jeeeeeeeeeeez I thought it was never going to stop
Lol, my scariest moment was, driving my blob wagon with the 335 kit with ds2500s on a spirited drive (well probably harder) over strines, snake pass and up Holme moss and down again (some of you will know coming down from Holme moss there is some bad bends downhill) where I nearly killed myself, had to bang down gears hard with help from hand brake to avoid coming off.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
the issues with the bcs was knocking and too harsh for the road, ok when new and fell apart after a year.
I've just had a look back in my records and found out I have had my BCs since 2009. As per the K sports they perhaps aren't the best on the market, but I wouldn't go back to standard suspension. They are a little harder on the road than standard but I like the flexibility in settings for track use, and I don't have any knocking issues.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs

Lol, my scariest moment was, driving my blob wagon with the 335 kit with ds2500s on a spirited drive (well probably harder) over strines, snake pass and up Holme moss and down again (some of you will know coming down from Holme moss there is some bad bends downhill) where I nearly killed myself, had to bang down gears hard with help from hand brake to avoid coming off.
Sounds like no brake kit would have made a difference in that case. You were just driving way too fast.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
the issues with the bcs was knocking and too harsh for the road, ok when new and fell apart after a year.
i bought the xxrs before they became everywhere,hated them instantly and sold soon after, cheap nasty made ill fitting crap.
i dont have ks mine are the d2 ones and have been on 2 years now and without a single issue so much so i now have the 6 pot rears too match.
if i had a problem like i did with the bcs id bin them and tell people of my experiences not just spout stuff ive read somewhere
the brakes work just as well on the road as brembos but are lighter and have the added advantage that you can take them off without the bolts snapping and requiring a helicoil.
What suspension have you got now?
I havnt mocked the bc's/d2s anywhere on this thread.

Tbh, I don't mind hard suspension as long as it performs well. For a daily I can understand some people get fed up of that.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
Sounds like no brake kit would have made a difference in that case. You were just driving way too fast.
No, by that point, the wrx calipers were too hot! (Wrx 4 pot 335kit 2 piece)
Same route, killed it on Brembos.
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i love my ap's,,,,,,,


lol
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i love my ap's,,,,,,,


lol
I'd probably love your AP's too, but they're just too costly.
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
I'd probably love your AP's too, but they're just too costly.

haha, car came with em on pretty sure you can pickup the kit i have is around £1300 ish if you hunt around.
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I was offered a set of 330 AP's for £1400, but the 355 K sports came along at £550 and as I wasn't short of a thing or two to spend money on at the time you can guess which way I went
No doubting AP's quality though.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
i love my ap's,,,,,,,


lol
I think you should give them to someone who can make better use of them, youre going to cry when its disc and pad replacment time
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