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Old 02 January 2015, 04:11 PM
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Default Focus RS Vs Classic STI

Very surprised by one of these today. I was expecting more from the Ford..

Pulled up along side. He went, I went. Turbo came in.. Focus in rear view mirrors by about 2 car lengths and he couldn't catch up!

I know my car is around 300bhp, on paper the focus is 300bhp too. I figured that because he has a 2.5l he would have more initial torque and leave me. But it wasnt meant to be!

Does anyone else have any stories of cars they have been surprised at? I know this is not a great story but would be nice to hear of others experiences!!
Old 02 January 2015, 04:13 PM
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sounds like it wasn't a real rs, 300bhp each he would have the power to leave you, although wont be huge amounts in it
Old 02 January 2015, 04:13 PM
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Who cares though a classic is a rusty old 1500 quid shed nowadays,the rs still commands 20k and is sought after

4wd always helps on initial launch especially in the wet,but not suprised at another newb car slaying story.......yawn!
Old 02 January 2015, 04:15 PM
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I had the same outcome when I raced a focus RS in my rb320 ,left him for dead , there very slow to 0-60 (5.7sec) , all noise no go like r32's
Old 02 January 2015, 04:15 PM
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Wait for the post's from people on here who drive Subaru's and will now have a pop at you for giving it some beans and how immature you are lol. I'm not one and love a good blast every now and then to clear the cobwebs.
Old 02 January 2015, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuj rb
I had the same outcome when I raced a focus RS in my rb320 ,left him for dead , there very slow to 0-60 (5.7sec) , all noise no go like r32's
5.7! That is pretty slow, could explain it all. I had an old ST170, that felt slow because of the insanely tall gears it had. I wonder if the RS is a similar setup?

RB320's nice cars

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Old 02 January 2015, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GONZO01
Wait for the post's from people on here who drive Subaru's and will now have a pop at you for giving it some beans and how immature you are lol. I'm not one and love a good blast every now and then to clear the cobwebs.

Lol because we all buy Subarus to drive them slowly every day? hehe

There are alternatives for the ones whom always want to be sensible.

Nothing wrong with giving it some. Kept within the speed limits on an open and clear carriage way!
Old 02 January 2015, 04:35 PM
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Cant see the point in owning one and not letting it lose now and again.Conditions allowing of course
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The standard RS's aren't that great. Wait till you come up a modded one. My 3 mates have got 400bhp, 420bhp and 500bhp RS's and go like **** off a shovel and sound unreal but 1st 2nd gear is non existent
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Giving it some is no problem, racing every tom dick and harry on public roads is for *****.
Old 02 January 2015, 05:22 PM
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300bhp classic is a reasonably quick car, I'd also imagine you have a weight advantage so no real surprise that you were a couple of car lengths in front, that may well have changed above 120mph, but up to a ton ish I'd say you have the legs on it and many other cars out there too, despite what the resident troll has to say about anything that's not a newage STI.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
300bhp classic is a reasonably quick car, I'd also imagine you have a weight advantage so no real surprise that you were a couple of car lengths in front, that may well have changed above 120mph, but up to a ton ish I'd say you have the legs on it and many other cars out there too, despite what the resident troll has to say about anything that's not a newage STI.
He needs an imaginary stroker in it.
Nothing to do with it being a classic or a new age the 4wd is what helps in January on slippy roads.
I'd take the rs any day over an impreza.
Old 02 January 2015, 05:40 PM
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It's not all about 0-60 and who's got the most bhp, car's like the RS are about being a complete package.
(Family car that's fun for dad)
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Originally Posted by Carnut
It's not all about 0-60 and who's got the most bhp, car's like the RS are about being a complete package.
(Family car that's fun for dad)
Exactly, much better all round car that also holds its value.
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
He needs an imaginary stroker in it.
Nothing to do with it being a classic or a new age the 4wd is what helps in January on slippy roads.
I'd take the rs any day over an impreza.
Do me and everyone else on the forum a favour, eat **** and die.
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As with ALL of these stories it's 100% useless.

You have no idea who was the better driver, what revs the gear changes were at, how long the changes were, who had more mechanical sympathy, what condition the other car was in, if it had any problems, if the other guy just gave up a bit at one point, if they really gave it their all or pushed the car as hard as they could etc etc.

Plenty of people have booted it past me in the past. Because I couldn't be bothered to race them or because my car was cold and I was staying off boost.

Unless you are going to give the cars to a fresh driver to compare back to back with proper timing equipment and an equal amount of time in each car you may as well just go by the book figures. Or just be happy that bearing a million unknown factors in mind on that occasion for whatever reason you were faster. But it proves absolutely nothing.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Do me and everyone else on the forum a favour, eat **** and die.
Wow wow wow, I've just had him agree with me for the first time, i think I'm getting some where.
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
He needs an imaginary stroker in it.
Nothing to do with it being a classic or a new age the 4wd is what helps in January on slippy roads.
I'd take the rs any day over an impreza.
I have another car that's much quicker so no need to imagine haha

Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Do me and everyone else on the forum a favour, eat **** and die.
This made me laugh!
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Do me and everyone else on the forum a favour, eat **** and die.
+1 boring now.
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Originally Posted by FMJ
As with ALL of these stories it's 100% useless.

You have no idea who was the better driver, what revs the gear changes were at, how long the changes were, who had more mechanical sympathy, what condition the other car was in, if it had any problems, if the other guy just gave up a bit at one point, if they really gave it their all or pushed the car as hard as they could etc etc.

Plenty of people have booted it past me in the past. Because I couldn't be bothered to race them or because my car was cold and I was staying off boost.

Unless you are going to give the cars to a fresh driver to compare back to back with proper timing equipment and an equal amount of time in each car you may as well just go by the book figures. Or just be happy that bearing a million unknown factors in mind on that occasion for whatever reason you were faster. But it proves absolutely nothing.
A classic with 300bhp is over a second quicker 0-60 though (could even be 2 seconds) which is quite a bit not to mention 4wd.
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Originally Posted by Carnut
Wow wow wow, I've just had him agree with me for the first time, i think I'm getting some where.
Its just another impreza is amazing thread by a newb...
They really aren't and the rs may be slightly slower to 60 but so what its a far better car
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Who cares though a classic is a rusty old 1500 quid shed nowadays,

Steady up......

Not all of them Dan
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Steady up......

Not all of them Dan
Ahh most then ...
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Its just another impreza is amazing thread by a newb...
They really aren't and the rs may be slightly slower to 60 but so what its a far better car
Actually you are pretty way off the mark. My main comparison was new car vs old car and how paper figures do not always compare to real world driving.

I bought the subaru this year. But I do own a much faster car and have done for a few years. I got the subaru for its better fuel economy (25mpg compared to 7mpg lol) and as a daily driver.

I just was very surprised at how well they do actually perform in the real world. I was asking people if they had similar stories, to see if this was just a fluke

If I wanted luxury I would have purchased a Merc, if I wanted spec I would have purchased a BMW. But as it happens, I do like to drive quickly (and safely) so I found a car that matched my style. The subaru has Air con and a MP3 player. It goes forwards (backwards as well!) what more are considered necessities when driving?
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
300bhp classic is a reasonably quick car, I'd also imagine you have a weight advantage so no real surprise that you were a couple of car lengths in front, that may well have changed above 120mph, but up to a ton ish I'd say you have the legs on it and many other cars out there too, despite what the resident troll has to say about anything that's not a newage STI.
think that paragraph sums it up tbh. up to a ton the scoob will lead. i think its great a 13-16yr old car can still whoop some *** and cost 10-15k less than it.
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Your bound leave a RS off the line lol

Both roll at 40 and floor it and see what happens then
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Well my impreza is faster than my diesel.... What a ******* surprise
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Has anyone asked the question was the RS racing??? Off the line my blobeye WRX PPP was far quicker than my RS thats without shadow of a doubt.
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***** waving time again.
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Originally Posted by theboy
Has anyone asked the question was the RS racing??? Off the line my blobeye WRX PPP was far quicker than my RS thats without shadow of a doubt.
Ahh be careful what you say about a WRX PPP, you'll have the STI is the best possie on your back if your not careful.

WRX PPP is a very under rated car, but it's actually very capable in the real world.


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