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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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its connected to the dual clutch auto so semi automatic, It does for me but I aint thrashing it, I,ll updfate once I try at full tilt

But rebellion have a TCU update that fixes lazy downshifts should there be on, I think I,ll have the latest updates thus may not see it


No I don't think so I can check, but why would you ? it only closes it when your stood still or u forget about it

As for figures lets be honest no vendor does, probably don't with half a tank going downhill with wind behind them, I reakon I,ll get 30 to 35 on MW at 70 75 ish
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 04:52 PM
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there isn't a service but I may pay for the oil changing...
I need to check services but I think its every 10k
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 05:12 PM
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my mate get his on 19th July, once its ran in he is getting the Brabus pack fitted! acceleration looks mental
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 06:43 PM
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that's 3700 quid fitted GULP!!!!!!
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 09:29 PM
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No I don't think so I can check, but why would you ? it only closes it when your stood still or u forget about it
If it work's while you're parked then thats a great bit of kit but wouldn't be to happy if it did while driving along or stood still at lights, iam a dirty smoker.

As for stop start etc it's probably just a case of getting used to it but find it unsettling when I use cars that have such things. I don't know, I just like to feel that im the boss and that it does what I say when I say it, just need to get with the times.
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CADpaul
my mate get his on 19th July, once its ran in he is getting the Brabus pack fitted! acceleration looks mental
I was near getting this but when they doubled the price I ducked out, I,ll run the car for a year and then probably go to MSL in Birmingham or RENNtech Germany.

Appreciate brabus keeps your merc warranty by put 3700 for 40bhp is just too much.

The,old price of 1900'was about as far as I'd go...
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Littleted
its connected to the dual clutch auto so semi automatic, It does for me but I aint thrashing it, I,ll updfate once I try at full tilt

But rebellion have a TCU update that fixes lazy downshifts should there be on, I think I,ll have the latest updates thus may not see it


No I don't think so I can check, but why would you ? it only closes it when your stood still or u forget about it

As for figures lets be honest no vendor does, probably don't with half a tank going downhill with wind behind them, I reakon I,ll get 30 to 35 on MW at 70 75 ish



The rebellion website says the tcu remap will add over 25 bhp. How can a gearbox remap add BHP??? This makes me suspicious of them....
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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Could 360ish bhp perhaps be enough for a little(ish) hatchback?!

I wil never understand why people buy a very quick car then immediately go out and trash the warranty/overstrain the drivetrain for a few pub bragging rights.

SO many remaps and tunes stuff up the car's drivability with spiky torque curves, irregular power increases and general silliness.
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Could 360ish bhp perhaps be enough for a little(ish) hatchback?!

I wil never understand why people buy a very quick car then immediately go out and trash the warranty/overstrain the drivetrain for a few pub bragging rights.

SO many remaps and tunes stuff up the car's drivability with spiky torque curves, irregular power increases and general silliness.
I agree Mercedes spend millions in the development of a new car and to let someone play about with a laptop no matter how good they may be is mad. If you want to chase bhp then get a blob or evo etc not mess with a beautifully well engineered new car, and all for the sake of a few bhp.
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 01:03 PM
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totally agree its frightening me now never mind if I ever got one of them
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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Agreed, personally I would not let anybody map my c63 even though plenty of people seem to have had it done without any problems. I don't want to be forking out for an AMG engine spank you very much.

I was however considering the gear box remap......
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 01:59 PM
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DIng u rung Merc and asked if your due any updates, they don't check unless u ask....
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Littleted
DIng u rung Merc and asked if your due any updates, they don't check unless u ask....

I asked the dealer I purchased the car from to check that all the updates were sorted. He said he had, but who knows?

Are the TUC remaps from people like Rebellion just the same as main dealer updates then?
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Yes and no, the dealers will be inline with whatever AMG release, so for me it's normally turbo ecu updates or TCU ie gearbox.

Rebellions takes it,another step and makes it what it should be, so if for instance your seeing it taking longer to manually shift down, like the reviews say then rebellions will be instant, I suppose like Matts BMW is I think.

I personally don't use flappy paddles enough to warrant it, I'm 43 so I like lazy sport mode

Rebellion have also just released a throttle response thing that make it more urgent, like we had in the scooby sports sharp etc....

If you need anything for that c63 ask ACID at MSL in Birmingham he's developed it with Weistec for yours, he'll tell you exactly what you should and shouldn't do, he's been doing it for ages

Rebellion are just too new for me to bother with

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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Littleted
Yes and no, the dealers will be inline with whatever AMG release, so for me it's normally turbo ecu updates or TCU ie gearbox.

Rebellions takes it,another step and makes it what it should be, so if for instance your seeing it taking longer to manually shift down, like the reviews say then rebellions will be instant, I suppose like Matts BMW is I think.

I personally don't use flappy paddles enough to warrant it, I'm 43 so I like lazy sport mode

Rebellion have also just released a throttle response thing that make it more urgent, like we had in the scooby sports sharp etc....

If you need anything for that c63 ask ACID at MSL in Birmingham he's developed it with Weistec for yours, he'll tell you exactly what you should and shouldn't do, he's been doing it for ages

Rebellion are just too new for me to bother with
I too can vouch for Acid at MSL. Top guy and really knows his 63s
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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I did actually speak to Acid and he does sound like a very genuine and passionate bloke. The thing is I'm pretty sure he said doesn't do a TCU remap.
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Lol....... I'm not comparing the amount your car devalues with other brands, I'm getting more at the point you must have more money than sense to buy a new car. I mean 20K down the drain in 4 years just in depreciation

And it's on finance too..... so when you come to sell it you'll have to fork out a huge chunk of cash just to fill the hole between what you owe and what the car is actually worth...
I'm guessing you don't understand car finance very well then?

Financed the purchase of a new car last year (£32k). Had been looking at second hand with a list price £10k less. Worked all the numbers to see what was cheapest over a 36 month period (both new and second hand) and it was actually less expensive over 3 years to buy new and finance on a PCP deal assuming hand back and walk away than to either buy outright, finance on HP or finance by bank loan. You often get better rates on new rather than second hand.

If its worth anything at all more than the GFV its an even better outcome for me.

And thats all before you take into account the opportunity cost of tying up capital if you buy for cash. (basically what else you could do with the in Mattee's case £76,000 tied up in depreciating assets)

And in any rate, £20k over 4 years depreciation is less than £100 a week or £14 a day. How many people spend at least that on ****?
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
That wasn't the point I was trying to make mate. The guy I'm talking about is a bonafide businessman and liquid. What I meant was sometimes it makes sense to buy a car on finance no matter how much money you have/earn.
Absolutely - as per my example above
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
I'm guessing you don't understand car finance very well then?

Financed the purchase of a new car last year (£32k). Had been looking at second hand with a list price £10k less. Worked all the numbers to see what was cheapest over a 36 month period (both new and second hand) and it was actually less expensive over 3 years to buy new and finance on a PCP deal assuming hand back and walk away than to either buy outright, finance on HP or finance by bank loan. You often get better rates on new rather than second hand.

If its worth anything at all more than the GFV its an even better outcome for me.

And thats all before you take into account the opportunity cost of tying up capital if you buy for cash. (basically what else you could do with the in Mattee's case £76,000 tied up in depreciating assets)

And in any rate, £20k over 4 years depreciation is less than £100 a week or £14 a day. How many people spend at least that on ****?
At least I know what happening to our cash (rapid loss on the BM unless they miraculously become classics, glacial depreciation on the van) rather than some fat city toss bag investing it and losing it all. And it's fun. And it allows us to get new business. And we arrive fresh. And they give the right image (we think).

Not really keen on "opportunity costs" as I don't seeing around. Our opportunity is our business; anything that helps it make more is good.

And houses bore me so much, I will probably cry the day we convert our savings into a bloody pile of bricks and non stop costs.

Cars are much more fun

By sheer fluke though, the options I ticked on the BM all have the best GFVs.

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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
At least I know what happening to our cash (rapid loss on the BM unless they miraculously become classics, glacial depreciation on the van) rather than some fat city toss bag investing it and losing it all. And it's fun. And it allows us to get new business. And we arrive fresh. And they give the right image (we think).

Not really keen on "opportunity costs" as I don't seeing around. Our opportunity is our business; anything that helps it make more is good.

And houses bore me so much, I will probably cry the day we convert our savings into a bloody pile of bricks and non stop costs.

Cars are much more fun

By sheer fluke though, the options I ticked on the BM all have the best GFVs.
I'm not criticising Matt, and if you've got the cash and don't need it for anything else then go for it. Its nice to contain monthly outgoings for sure.

My prevous car was a cash purchase, this one PCP. Could have bought this one for cash but a) the finance was cheap and b) circumstances at the time meant it was nice to keep the cash in the bank and finance the depreciation (which - lets be honest - is what PCP is) from income.

As far as opportunity cost goes, if you have the time and inclination, however, and going no where near financial investments, you could probably use that £76k to pay your car finance costs and have pretty much £76k (or more) left at the end of your car finance period.

But then what's the opportunity cost of your time and effort to to so. Especially for you guys running your own business.
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Originally Posted by Devildog
I'm not criticising Matt, and if you've got the cash and don't need it for anything else then go for it. Its nice to contain monthly outgoings for sure.

My prevous car was a cash purchase, this one PCP. Could have bought this one for cash but a) the finance was cheap and b) circumstances at the time meant it was nice to keep the cash in the bank and finance the depreciation (which - lets be honest - is what PCP is) from income.

As far as opportunity cost goes, if you have the time and inclination, however, and going no where near financial investments, you could probably use that £76k to pay your car finance costs and have pretty much £76k (or more) left at the end of your car finance period.

But then what's the opportunity cost of your time and effort to to so. Especially for you guys running your own business.
Good post but I'm slightly confused; we own both cars so no payments to shell out on. Just servicing, insurance and fuel.

As you say, there's no right or wrong but for many people, their way is the ONLY way!!

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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 09:08 PM
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Looking great Ted a really nice looking car, may have to do a write up on my RCZ R shortly as im off on another decent trip out and she has exceeded 1k miles (and a bit) now
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Exhaust note, first 2 Rasps are comfort, from then on Its sport
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 03:21 PM
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Renny for you, took em while at me dads, ive added red centre caps

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still no front shots
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still no front shots
Surely you know what the front looks like after your 'test drive'
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 09:48 PM
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eh? i want to see his, got a problem with that?
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eh? i want to see his, got a problem with that?
Well I guess if you've not seen one before I can see the need and to be fair the back of one is all you'll be seeing from your car
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still no front shots
Thought I'd done one




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It must be a pain in the **** every time you take a pic and then have to go clean the marker pen of the reg plate.
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