Dingdongler

It'll make you cringe but you can listen to both interviews here.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeeh...r-ed-miliband/

Dingdongler

Andrew Neal in top form here. It's worth watching the whole thing but if you can't be bothered then watch from 2.40

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27362722

Carnut

He says its over a year then defends his calculations by then saying its over the full term of the Tory government. He is a scumbag and i wouldn't pi** on him or any of the labour team if they were on fire.

Turbohot

Oh, yes! It was Jim Grant, not John! Not that it would have mattered to His Disgraceful aka Edward whether he was a Jim or a John- he didn't even know him. But it mattered to me and I've corrected it in my post.

paulr

I havent a clue what food costs, mainly because i can afford it, so i dont look. Just buy it.

Turbohot

Depends where you shop as well. If you shop at Aldi and LIDL, it may cost you half of whatever you pay elsewhere. But thus you would promote German supermarkets' sales and rub with the Eastern European shoppers there. This would mean that you would deprive your own British superstores to mint money off you. It would also mean that you would deprive your fellow British of the whiff of your hairy armpits when you go there shirtless in summer.

I wonder if whatshisname UKIP guy will ban Aldi and LIDL for them being foreign. May be not. I don't know.

SCD Simon

iTrader: (1)

I agree and think had he been at the helm now they would be well ahead of the others.

Chip

Cost of living crisis??

For the vast majority who work, look after their finances etc there is not really a problem is there.

stipete75

I don't agree, the cost of living compared to income for the low paid is a big deal.
I couldn't live on the minimum wage.
Our MP's are generally on a different planet and don't have a clue as is constantly proved.

dpb

Only heard the local radio clip on Have I got news for you

My goodness he must been red faced after that

Carnut

I am not sure about the current cost of living crisis. IMO its just people riding the labour campaign that the country is in crisis. Labour are just trying to smear the Tory's and IMO if they were honest they would admit that things are getting better.
Not to say that everything is rosie but IMO its just another example of people singing about how hard done by they are. Most people think these days that the bare minimum that they need to survive involves sky TV a smartphone for all the family the internet maybe a couple of I pads and of course the big flat screen .

Chip

You probably could, you just have to cut your coat to suit your cloth.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Yes, but a lot of people who aren't on a low wage don't give a damn about those that are hence they don't class it as a problem, after all it doesn't affect them so what's the problem?

stipete75

I agree, same with the homeless etc, people are just too busy to give a damn anymore.
I bought an old homeless chap a burger and coffee a few weeks ago, I felt great afterward, best fiver I have spent in ages.

stipete75

Rises in the minimum wage always have failed to keep up with inflation, this has meant the lowest paid steadily receiving less and less.
The living wage isn’t even enough to pay an affordable rent.
A minimum wage which condemns people to poverty is an insult to the millions of people who often do the hardest forms of work, minimum wages are a government approved standard of poverty.
Poverty in this day and age in the uk when private company's make billions upon billions in profits annually off those in poverty for necessities like heating.

Chip

Ok ,so put up minimum wage and what will happen? Inflation goes up ,prices rise, job loses etc etc

stipete75

Exactly.
The rich get richer the poor are fudged.

Chip

So your solution is....?

stipete75

There is obviously no easy solution, did I give the impression I had a solution?.
I was just stating that I would struggle to live on a minimum wage.
Do you have a solution?

Carnut

I do.....give council houses to young hard working British families rather than bums and immigrants .

Dingdongler

So you are accelerating his death then?

Midlife......

iTrader: (2)

Maybe if millepede said "standard of living crisis" instead it might make more sense?

3% pay rise IIRC since 2008 with Inflation running at 5% during that time then maybe the pound in my pocket buys 25% less?

Shaun

Carnut

I am sure that your hart was in the right place but it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable you saying that you felt great. What's happened to people doing selfless acts.

Dirk Diggler 75

A high percentage of bums are already homeless ...

stipete75

What's wrong with feeling good inside about doing a good deed?
It did make me feel better.

Carnut

Not my intention if you were offended , and IMO there's not a lot wrong doing a good deed. Both you and the man benefits from your actions which is win win really. Its just that i see a lot of people these days doing charity runs etc and it seems to me that their doing it to cleanse their soul. Its as if its the popular thing to do these days so you look good at the golf club or at the school gate with all the other mums. The by product is that sick/needy people get money but that's the problem, IMO it is a byproduct and people first of all do charity to make them self's look good.

P.s still a lot of good people doing good things, its just IMO the latest in thing.

hodgy0_2

Charitable giving is part and parcel of free market economics

The rise of charitable giving is stated Tory policy

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Yes, so they can pat each other on the back whilst partaking of their caviar and champagne and say how great they are

legb4rsk

Someone once said 'Let them eat cake'.
I wonder what happened to them?