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Old 15 May 2014, 03:17 PM
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Default Where did the statins thead go?

Am I being stupid, it appears to have vapourised?
Old 15 May 2014, 03:39 PM
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Went up in poof of smoke?
Old 15 May 2014, 04:07 PM
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The government had it removed.
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Old 15 May 2014, 05:56 PM
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"Be forgotten" request by f1 he didn't like someone questioning his comments
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BMJ investigates

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-27420100
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Originally Posted by john banks
Am I being stupid, it appears to have vapourised?
Yeah, where the hell has that thread gone??? I'm sure the thread author wouldn't have withdrawn his thread; like the authors of those articles have withdrawn their claims against statins from BMJ?

Weird!

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Originally Posted by alcazar
The government had it removed.
Yep, we had some men in black suits turn up and pull the plug.



Nah, it wasn't as draamtic as that; The thread creator just asked for it to be deleted.


Anyhoo, for what its worth, every person in my family that has been prescribed them has had bad side effects. Maybe its a genetic thing...but then, so is the cholesterol/blood pressure problem. The thing is from what I gather, GPs HAVE to prescribe them as the first measure of treatment before the alternate medications can be be considered after the patient has complained of the side effects.

What did concern me was this report http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26132758 as well as earlier reports stating similar.

That IMO is nuts, especially if the root problem is diet/fitness related (it isn't in my family's case).

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Old 15 May 2014, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Yeah, where the hell has that thread gone??? I'm sure the thread author wouldn't have withdrawn his thread; like the authors of those articles have withdrawn their claims against statins from BMJ?

Weird!
Maybe Pfizer got him as they couldn't take any more after atorvastatin came off patent?

I thought more of the original poster, but to kill his own thread like this, when it was just getting interesting is disappointing. Like popcorn being denied when you are not on a low carb diet. So I got out my first beer for 8 weeks instead.

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Originally Posted by john banks
Maybe Pfizer got him as they couldn't take any more after atorvastatin came off patent?

I thought more of the original poster, but to kill his own thread like this, when it was just getting interesting is disappointing. Like popcorn being denied when you are not on a low carb diet. So I got out my first beer for 8 weeks instead.

Did he really do something to kill his own thread, though? He's not saying anything, so I'm not sure what happened there.
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Originally Posted by john banks
............Like popcorn being denied when you are not on a low carb diet. So I got out my first beer for 8 weeks instead.
LOL Enjoy your beer.
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It got two acerbic comments after John's from someone who was trying to be a smart alec and I just can't be bothered with it any more. It was either tell them what I really thought and get banned again or ask for it to be deleted .... I chose the latter.

Let's just stick to racism and homophobia from now on as they seem to be the lifeblood of NSR ..... oh and with a bit of migsogynism thrown in of course
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
It got two acerbic comments after John's from someone who was trying to be a smart alec and I just can't be bothered with it any more. It was either tell them what I really thought and get banned again or ask for it to be deleted .... I chose the latter.

Let's just stick to racism and homophobia from now on as they seem to be the lifeblood of NSR ..... oh and with a bit of migsogynism thrown in of course
Oh, right! Unfortunate, really. Acerbic comments even on a thread to do with something as unfightly as a medicine? Some people.
Old 16 May 2014, 09:40 AM
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It got two acerbic comments after John's from someone who was trying to be a smart alec and I just can't be bothered with it any more
So you mean it's okay for you to cherry-pick experiences that paint something in a negative light, but as soon as you are pulled up on it you throw a strop!?

If that's being a "smart alec" then okay! I'm guessing you are not a scientist.
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
So you mean it's okay for you to cherry-pick experiences that paint something in a negative light, but as soon as you are pulled up on it you throw a strop!?

If that's being a "smart alec" then okay! I'm guessing you are not a scientist.
No, you chose to pluck out of what you wished from my reply ignoring the bits that didn't suit your usual agenda in order to start with the usual baiting. Well it didn't work this time so now you can go and annoy someone else.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No, you chose to pluck out of what you wished from my reply ignoring the bits that didn't suit your usual agenda in order to start with the usual baiting. Well it didn't work this time so now you can go and annoy someone else.
I think you need to read some books on scientific study to understand why you are wrong.

BTW you know there's no evidence MMR triggers Autism, right?
Old 16 May 2014, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
I think you need to read some books on scientific study to understand why you are wrong.
Yeah whatever you say 'brains' You can keep your scientific studies, I will keep the evidence I have personally gathered for myself with no axe to grind!

And on to ignore list another one goes!

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Old 16 May 2014, 02:57 PM
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That's a shame. Medicine is trying to pull itself out of personally gathered, uncontrolled, biased evidence. When we debate medical topics can we not try to do the same?
Old 16 May 2014, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
That's a shame. Medicine is trying to pull itself out of personally gathered, uncontrolled, biased evidence. When we debate medical topics can we not try to do the same?

That's the difference between a medicine and an anti-medicine i.e. Scoobynet. One cures, the other one can make one very ill with personally gathered, uncontrolled, biased evidence

^ That's not biased btw. I stand disinterested.
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Originally Posted by john banks
Maybe Pfizer got him as they couldn't take any more after atorvastatin came off patent?
Along with doing allsorts, Pfizer have also withdrawn their much controversial AstraZeneca bid.


http://t.news.uk.msn.com/uk/pfizer-w...strazeneca-bid


Phew! or what. I'm not sure if it ends there.

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They can bid again in 6 months.

And so it goes on...and on...
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Originally Posted by zip106
They can bid again in 6 months.

And so it goes on...and on...
Hm. I should go to bed now instead of worrying about it. I need to wake up by as early as 9am tomorrow.

Night.
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