Turbohot

stipete75

Islam is based on perversion, wrong teachings and a prophet who practised outrageous acts of sin yet billions follow his teachings.
The Quran is the book of evil. Fact!!
Islam is slowly attempting to take over the western world but will ultimately fail.
One day a man will rise and will repeat the act of a dictator who attempted to eliminate a certain race in the 40′s.

Martin2005

You be sure tell us when this is about to happen

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

The ONE thing that gets me is the resounding silence from peaceful Muslims the world over when something like this happens in the name of their religion.

Where is the huge outcry? Where the calls of "Not in our name"???

stipete75

Why would you care, you're the epitome of a brainwashed consumer lol
Consume, consume consume, smile consume consume don't ask questions, consume consume consume
Edited for correction.

Martin2005

Indeed, I'm having a nice Cadbury's Twirl as I type this

On earth 'epiphany' - means sudden realisation, presumably it means something else on your planet

stipete75

See that's your problem right there, don't you know that mi6 and NSA puts brainwashing ingredients in cadburys twirls, it's not just the tapwater

Martin2005

I do eat a lot of them too...

AndyBaker

Let's all sing along now " WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCK8, WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCK8". It seems that people can do the strangest things when someone in a frock tells them to. If you'll pardon the pun "God help us"

gazney101

iTrader: (5)

Lol at this thread.

Eventually all religion will die out, and people will find something else to fight over, it really gets me down when i think about what world il be leaving behind for my son.

When i look at him as an innocent child which we all were including the nutters at one point, it becomes obvious that this evil is taught to us and we as human kind are brain washed one way or another.

The sooner religion goes away the better imho

AndyBaker

Nicely put.

97TURBO

A life being taken because of religion, theres a surprise.

domino46

I'm not religious at all really and think that religion was invented to stop people going nuts over the fact that none of us have long on this planet and we find it hard to believe that that's all we get so there must be more going on after we die ,,,, if we were put here like most religions believe then we would be considered pets and our owners (god for some) would want us to be happy and live a good long life and not harm one another , they wouldn't impose so many rules that only a select few would make it into a afterlife ,,, but like iv said I don't believe in any god or religion I just believe we should all treat each other the same way and try to make the people around you as happy as you can as that in turn will make you happy and you don't need anyone who you have never met to tell you that

Keep your religions I'm just going to have as much fun as I can while I'm here and if these so called gods are all forgiving they will understand why I just didn't have time to say hello to them while I was down here

hodgy0_2

the ancients had it right

sun worship

because human life (in fact all life) is bottled sunshine - how cool is that

RS_Matt

I think as Muslims become more Westernised in the West more extreme are Islamists/traditionalists becoming. With immigration not being curbed by the EU/Condems and Islamists coming over to regress Islam it's easy to see why people are turning to UKIP.

A lot of leftists/hippies are frightened UKIP may lead to parties like the BNP getting in and ultimately a **** type regime evolving but to be honest self enlightenment can skew thought, especially when fueled by the brilliant left/BBC propaganda.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

I'm a 'leftist' in terms of my principles and I am not remotely worried that UKIP will lead to a **** regime.... what a crazy thing to post

Devildog

Its an abomination, but its not a crime. It's legitimised by the Court of the country in which the ruling was made, by reference to the religion upon which those laws are based.

Which ever way you look at it, Islam allowed that ruling to be made. I doubt there's another religeous belief system that would even come close

dpb

Easy for me say, but I'd have got out that ****hole under the circumstances, all of them.

Smuggle my way into SA

Turbohot

It's not just about you, Shaid. So I wouldn't take it personally. Anyone who defends Islam and firmly claims it to be a peaceful religion has a responsibility to proactively stand against such crimes on the name of Islam; Africa, UK or anywhere else.

Mr. al Rashed's quote in my post came from the link you provided in your previous post, when he attacked radical Islam in 2004. I didn't make it up. Anyway, despite your claim that you supported by the second link, that the majority of terrorism acts in the UK in fact have been carried out by non-Muslims, millions of true Muslims STILL need to take the responsibility of protecting their peaceful religion from constant defamation. It's totally irrelevant whether you yourself are a true Muslim or not.

A number of Muslims turning to Christianity in African countries has reasons behind it. I get what you are saying about tribal faiths with the witches and the wizards, but even the ones who take refuge in Islam quit Islam for Christianity due to Islam's maladaptive application that clearly goes against human rights. Kidnapping of Nigerian girls is a burning evidence for that. It's no good saying - "Well, it's just Africa".

Prominent Muslims like al Rashed need to take a revolutionary stand against such crimes on the name of Islam, and whoever defends Islam for its goodness need to support that stand. Otherwise there will be more and more innocent Murat Kurnazes ending up in Guantenamo Bay. Mind you, that was also the scapegoating of the Muslim by the Muslim for a bar of American Bounty, which puts 'Muslim Brotherhood' in question.

RS_Matt

http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/news...045?usurv=skip

voting cons might lead to Sharia though!!

Check that link out!!!!

RS_Matt

THIS.

Shaid

Oh... well thank you. I'm excused then

Let's put this in a way you (not you personally just the people your represent) might possibly understand it. Now i apologise to use the military again but nothing else really taps into the average Brit until they feel that the army is being bad mouthed. Although this is only a decade old or so sentiment because before that abuse to the army from Brits was pretty much the same as it is to a copper.

The scumbags who done this.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/s...ldiers-accused

If they really did need shooting. No normal sane person can disagree. However using your logic any Brit who defends the name of Britain and upholds swears by British values etc has a responsibility to proactively stand against such crimes carried out in the name of Britain; Iraq, UK or anywhere else. I accept that most Brits disagree with what the soldiers in the story above have done however that isn't enough. Unless most able bodied Brits are making it very clear that these rapist soldiers = not in our name then it will never be enough. As you Brits have not made any such visible effort to condemn these acts then i take it as a sign of silent consent and sympathisation with these folk. Therefore any abuse coming your way from non Brits is warranted and frankly justified. Complaining about such abuse after failing to publicly condemn such soldiers is a poor show on your part.

I hope i have now got through to you. If i have not then.... (be nice Shaid!)

Moving on please don't blame Africa's with problem on tribal faiths. Last time i checked Christianity was not a tribal faith.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_324943.html

As i said.... it's just Africa (not that anybody else is any better mind, stop the benefits for a week in the UK and watch the barbarism with popcorn at the ready).

An0n0m0us

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Nah, the problem is blokes, sad Little vindictive men trying to hang onto power through fear and repression, they have to keep everyone else down to retain their grip, terrified of democracy, equal rights and anyone having any fun, hiding behind religion liek the Wizard of Oz behind his curtain.

Religion is just the vehicle they use and probably why it was created in the first place, and its always men causing all the agro.

JTaylor

It's Islam, not religion. Can't you bring yourself to type it?

dpb

Its Islam now, but it could just as easily be Christianity

Turbohot

Shaid, your posts are very defensive as usual. By repeating my words to fit in your defence you do no justice to your own posts.

I'm not out to attack the people you're representing. Current senseless crimes in Nigeria and in Sudan have been committed in the name of Islam, and such acts give bad name to a peaceful religion. If you don't think that Muslims should collectively mobilise a movement against these scumbags that bring blasphemy to peaceful Islam, then that's your view.

About my logic: I stand by my logic, and with the very logic, yes, any Brit or anyone else who defends the name of Britain or their country and upholds swears by British/their values etc. has a responsibility to proactively stand against such barbaric crimes as you mention carried out in the name of their country/values/religion; Iraq, UK or anywhere else. To add, they need to proactively and literally hang their head in shame, apologise to your race, and ensure that criminals like that soldier gets hard core punishment. What makes you think that the British would escape the same logic, eh?

Now going with your retaliating logic, you may say that then British should also mobilise a movement against the types of incidents you refer to. I agree, but can you see that your argument doesn't make what's happening in Nigeria and Sudan right? Can you see that it will be really helpful if something is done to prevent the name of Islam from further disparagement? May be you don’t see the same way. But instead you’d rather argue to justify all the retaliation with ‘tit for tat’ examples.

Thanks for clarifying that by mentioning of the witches and the wizards you were pointing out to the Christianity hocus pocus, not their tribal hocus pocus. Point taken.

Eventually, yes, you have got through me by making incomplete comment like that:

........and the one below:


Thanks.

Carnut

I don't think that anybody, what ever their background/faith/country can be expected to take responsibility for every action taken that can be linked to them.

But in the case of any faith if you live by its code and way of life do you not owe it to your faith to defend it?

I really don't get religion but when I believe in something I know I will fight for it and do my best to be a good ambassador. If somebody was to jump on to my bandwagon and use my beliefs to do wrong I would want to take them out.

JTaylor

Shaid

As above.